4/4 Texas Lt. Gov. candidates want creationism in classrooms

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/13/texas-gop-lt-gov-candidates-agree-more-religion-needed-in-science-class/ (w/ video)

But, is anybody really surprised?

Creationism does not belong in a science class.

Dumb but I'm not surprised, being from Texas myself I predict the sheep will accept this willingly.

Anxious to see how the Republican PR on OT spin this.

I would've preferred being taught that rather than force-fed evolution. >_>

Was it because you didn't have to think that much to ace the test?

No, it's because I believe evolution is crap.

Come on Apostle, Evolution is backed by research and evidence; it is the unifying theory of biology. Creationism is fine for a religious studies class.

Yeah, researchers basically say, "It looks old. It must be 10000000000000000 years old." >_>

And that's because..?

The evidence for evolution is far beyond that level of rationale so this shouldn't be mistaken as giving your statement any credibility, but....

How does the evidence for Creationism trump that?

There we go.

LOL@Texas

LOL@religion

LOL@America

Seems to me that we'll still have a plethora of atheists regardless of religious homes and schools. Maybe it's not "right" to teach it in school, but people will find what they want to find true regardless.

You're a more informed person because you were force-fed the truth. Appreciate what your teachers did for you.

The nice thing about facts and science is that they are true whether you believe in them or not.

Apostle has the downs.

I'm not the most religious guy myself, but evolution is not a fact that is etched in stone.

Hence why it's called the "theory" of evolution.

llolololol

learn what scientific theories are, man

Ok...

Do you question Cell theory?

How about Kinetic theory of gases?

The common definition of theory is not the same within the science literature.

@DarkGamer007: Again, evolution is not a fact. It's a theory.

I'm not religious, and I'm not atheist either.

I'm more in the agnostic camp. As in, I believe our tiny little human brains can't even begin to comprehend how the universe functions and how life or time itself originated.

Scientists are humans no different than you or me. More educated? Sure, but these are the same people who till this day still can't tell me whether a tomato is a fruit or a fucking vegetable.

Is that so? Is the theory of gravity "fact"?

Watch yourself.

@Aljosa23: Learn what the definition of "theory" is. It's basically an educated guess.

The Big Bang "theory" basically says that all of life on Earth, from a microorganism to a blade of grass to intelligent life originated from a giant fucking explosion.

Sorry, I don't just automatically accept those "theories" as facts.

And lets just say that's true. Science still can't explain to me where all that black matter came from, how the first star formed in the sky, how the first speck of dust appeared in space or how time itself originated.

Hell, even Einstein once famously said that to totally dismiss the idea of a "God" or higher power existing is just foolish.

no, Apostle isn't a bright user, everybody is aware.

Sorry, but creationism isn't backed by scientific research, therefore it doesn't belong in a science class.

You see this Texas? It's shit like this that makes it so nobody likes you....

@plageus900: Never said it did.

All I said is that, in the grand scheme of things, no one has a fucking clue how the universe functions or how life originated.

Scientist are constantly changing their "theories" and "educated hypotheses" by the day it seems. Just 70-80 years ago scientists thought you were batshit crazy if you even entertained the idea that it was possible to venture past the Earth's stratosphere. That kind of shit was restricted solely to sci-fi novels.

Ideas and theories advance and change with continued research. There isn't one scientific shred of evidence that supports creationism, therefore it can't be put forth as a scientific theory and should not be taught in class. If you want to entertain religious ideas on your own time, that's perfectly fine by me.

The-Apostle is probably the dullest **** I've seen on this board.

My critique isn't aimed towards the belief that evolution and not creationism should be taught in classrooms.

My beef is with the "holier than thou" elitist, atheists who immediately talk down to people who have some religious beliefs as if they're a bunch of drooling, knuckle dragging, cave dwelling fucking imbeciles when the reality is...no one knows the true answer to any of this shit.

The-Apostle is probably the dullest **** I've seen on this board.

That's pretty much why I don't think gravity exists.

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That is so weak. Scientist do try to explain how the universe functions and how life originated but for some reason you just can't get your head around that.

This thread topic isn't about bashing your personal religious beliefs, its about 4 herp derps from Texas that think Christianity should be taught in schools.

Yes, science TRIES to explain.

Just as religion TRIES to explain.

Bottom line, neither one brings solid, concrete proof to the table to support their arguments.

Of course it doesn't or how would airplane elevate?

I've seen a bunch of goofy fucking scientists, who are supposedly some of the most respected in their fields, try to detail arguments about how they're totally convinced, without a shadow of a doubt, that aliens not only exist but have visited us numerous times.

Seriously, watch Ancient Aliens sometime.

Not a shred of evidence in sight...they just "know". LOL

But afterall, they're scientists right? Therefor, their word most be gold.

Can you point me toward peer reviewed research papers detailing this claims?

Seriously? LOL, look it up for yourself.

The show has been running for what? 10 years now?

Professors from prestigious academic universities like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, USC, UCLA, UMASS, Northwestern, etc.

They basically take theologies from the Bible and apply them to alien lifeforms as if that makes them so much more realistic and believable.

These same scientists, who say that there's really no limit to what the human brain can achieve, constantly contradict themselves by saying that "oh no, there's no way a group of 20,000+ ancient hebrew slaves could've built the pyramids, nah...had to have been aliens".

Annnnd....... /thread

one sorta has evidence....

I'd really hate to burst your bubble (who am I kidding, I LOVE bursting bubbles!) but non-peer reviewed papers and statements can come out of any institution, regardless of how prestigious it is.

Please don't tell me that you're lumping in the attention-grabbing, ratings-generating, lowest-common-denominator-catering idiots on Ancient Aliens with the plethora of legitimate scientists who back the theory of evolution.

History channel (along with discovery, animal planet, science channel, basically everything labeled as 'scientific' on cable TV) has been out of touch with real science for years. It's just fucking reality shows and mockumentaries, aimed at the same morons who watch everything else on TV.

That is incorrect.

In order for something to become a scientific theory, it requires 99.99% certainty.

We're not 100% sure how electricity works, but the lights in our houses work, our computers work.

We're constantly coming out with more and more efficient cars, but that doesn't mean that the first car "was wrong", simply because it wasn't perfect.
We're constantly improving on what we've learned. This is science.

Religion is the practice of saying "I have a belief that is completely unfounded, but I would like to believe it because it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, and an Omnipotent God lifting me up to heaven is a nicer way to think of death"

Can't tell if Zelda is trolling or really badly educated.

I don't think he's trolling but I do think he's letting his emotions cloud his reasoning.

History also did shows on Dragons and Mermaids.

However, as with ancient aliens, they let everyone know, there's no real evidence...

So I tried my hand at making filet mignon. I have to say its delicious.