20,000 Palestinian homes await demolition in E. Jerusalem

I am also sick of US involvement/undying support of Israel. I am sick of hearing about suicide bombings. I am sick of the entire middle east - it seems they are all locked in continuos fight mode. I wish it would end. I hate thinking of all the suffering there.

You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. l4dak47

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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] Yes,they are. the term anti-semitism ,just, doesn't relate to them. I'll add this-the IDF is not a decision making body-it's an armed force dedicated to the defence of Israel-it does what it's told,it doesn't have a "mind of it's own". Hating the IDF is like hating the USMC-it doesn't stand to reason. In addition-I'm not an IDF serviceman,anymore...

In another addition-I don't hate the Hamas,I don't get how you hating someone is supposed to make me feel better. How do you even summon up hate to a group of people you haven't met ,haven't seen what they do and have no bearing on you whatsoever?

l4dak47

The guy in the last picture looked happy to see those soldiers by his food cart :P..

I suggest re-reading what I wrote. I am referring to both Hamas and the IDF. Thanks.

SquatsAreAwesom

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I suggest re-reading what I wrote. I am referring to both Hamas and the IDF. Thanks.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] When both groups stand with blood on their hands and continue to still issues, I certainly have reason to hate them with meeting them face to face. Pictures of the pools of blood, the gross statistics of children who are dead or malnourished, or finally the news articles that point to people who actively seek to go in the opposite direction of resolution. You could ask the same question of any other terrorist organization around the globe... why do I hate Al Qaeda when I haven't met them? Because of their actions speak volumes.

SquatsAreAwesom

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I suggest re-reading what I wrote. I am referring to both Hamas and the IDF. Thanks.

SquatsAreAwesom

When both groups stand with blood on their hands and continue to still issues, I certainly have reason to hate them with meeting them face to face. Pictures of the pools of blood, the gross statistics of children who are dead or malnourished, or finally the news articles that point to people who actively seek to go in the opposite direction of resolution. You could ask the same question of any other terrorist organization around the globe... why do I hate Al Qaeda when I haven't met them? Because of their actions speak volumes.SquatsAreAwesom

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. l4dak47

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I suggest re-reading what I wrote. I am referring to both Hamas and the IDF. Thanks.

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I, for one, look forward to your anti Hamas thread.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I, for one, look forward to your anti Hamas thread.

grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] This is coming from the guy who thinks Hamas is active i E. Jerusalem.SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] When both groups stand with blood on their hands and continue to still issues, I certainly have reason to hate them with meeting them face to face. Pictures of the pools of blood, the gross statistics of children who are dead or malnourished, or finally the news articles that point to people who actively seek to go in the opposite direction of resolution. You could ask the same question of any other terrorist organization around the globe... why do I hate Al Qaeda when I haven't met them? Because of their actions speak volumes.grape_of_wrath

You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. l4dak47

This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] This is coming from the guy who thinks Hamas is active i E. Jerusalem.SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. worlock77

This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. worlock77

This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

Blah blah blah 20k homes are being destroyed and you want to talk about what the PLO did? They've dismantled long ago. Let's talk about the here and now. Otherwise if we start talking about the past, we might as well bring up Jewish terrorism into the picture as well by the stern gangs. SquatsAreAwesom

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. LJS9502_basic

This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

Just because an enemy may fire from an area populated by civillians doesn't not mean that area should be levelled. Israel have shown in the past that they're perfectly capable of swooping into to areas full of innocent civilians and taking out the guilty with little to no loss of innocent life.

My reply? I have and you not counter that HAMAS operates in Palestine and causes most of the problems there. And HAMAS is sanctioned by Palestine. Palestine is NOT an innocent victim. But I have never seen you post anything negative about any country in the Middle East BUT Israel. Which shows you have a clear bias. I don't even need to look at TC on these threads anymore....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Blah blah blah 20k homes are being destroyed and you want to talk about what the PLO did? They've dismantled long ago. Let's talk about the here and now. Otherwise if we start talking about the past, we might as well bring up Jewish terrorism into the picture as well by the stern gangs. grape_of_wrath

It's a mess over there. But it's war. Israel is probably U.S. best ally in the Middle East, which isn't saying much, but it's politics. l4dak47

This thread is just pure gold of the bias and ignorance of Sqats! :lol: :lol: :lolRingx55

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]You're acting as though the Palestinians are this innocent, victimized group that is fighting gloriously aganist the suppressors. They're not. They do horrendous, awful, acts of war aganist innocent people as well. Quite frankly, for you to only be criticizing the Israelites is hypocritical. LJS9502_basic

This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

:| that's not a good way to look at it.... it's like saying if armed robbers are shooting at you from a bank it's ok to blow up the whole bank and then blame the civ casualities on the robbers =/

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This israeli response is far excessive and only harms innocent people and fosters even more bad will towards Israel.

Espada12

:| that's not a good way to look at it.... it's like saying if armed robbers are shooting at you from a bank it's ok to blow up the whole bank and then blame the civ casualities on the robbers =/

In addition to which, Hamas rocketeers are doing exactly what Israel wants them to do when they lob their ineffectual rockets towards Israel:

They're posing a minimal threat to Israel while simultaneously giving Israel a pretext for inflicting grievous damage on the Palestinian people, economy and infrastructure---with the connivance of the dimwitted international community.

Hamas serves Israeli interests so well that you'd be excused for suspecting that Israel actually created Hamas.

Oh, wait a minute ... THEY DID!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]My reply? I have and you not counter that HAMAS operates in Palestine and causes most of the problems there. And HAMAS is sanctioned by Palestine. Palestine is NOT an innocent victim. But I have never seen you post anything negative about any country in the Middle East BUT Israel. Which shows you have a clear bias. I don't even need to look at TC on these threads anymore....SquatsAreAwesom

Israeli's just acting like Nazi's, nothing new.

It's a mess over there. But it's war. Israel is probably U.S. best ally in the Middle East, which isn't saying much, but it's politics. l4dak47

Israel is not at war.. Seeing as the Palestinians are a disheveled and weak population.. Their land in the West Bank and Jerusalem is being systematically taken over.. If only the United States would cut funding completely inless they pulled out of West bank and actually allow it to be a two state.. But the Likud party has made it clear they want the entire West Bank for Israel..

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Blah blah blah 20k homes are being destroyed and you want to talk about what the PLO did? They've dismantled long ago. Let's talk about the here and now. Otherwise if we start talking about the past, we might as well bring up Jewish terrorism into the picture as well by the stern gangs. grape_of_wrath

..... Uh huh just like how Israel went to great pains to do their best in trying to alienate the PLO in not being recognized by the UN so they could do what they please.. Furthermore no one support or condones what Fattah has done, but this doesn't excuse the continous actions of Israeli government.. Which are not only supported money wise and poltiical support by the United States, but have always been in a position of power..