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SMG-9.5
All this stuff about GS being biased is completely baseless. You here the Playstation fans, Xbox fans, and Nintendo fans all complain about "teh biased" from time to time. I think the reality is that a lot of Wii games don't compare well against PC, Xbox360, and PS3 games. When an awesome Wii game comes down the pipes, Gamespot gives it it's props.
SMG-9.5
All this stuff about GS being biased is completely baseless. You here the Playstation fans, Xbox fans, and Nintendo fans all complain about "teh biased" from time to time. I think the reality is that a lot of Wii games don't compare well against PC, Xbox360, and PS3 games. When an awesome Wii game comes down the pipes, Gamespot gives it it's props.
flintgijoe
They only gave it 9.5 because graphics are great
Nah, they're just graphics whores ....that's why SMG got a 9.5 (because the graphics are good)
Think about it....crysis:9.5 Gears: 9.6, Bioshock, 9.5, Halo 3: 9.5
While I agree with the bioshock and gears score....crysis and halo are totally just blahweazur
Add assasin's creed to the mix: 9.0??? WTH? That's 20% off the other reviews
lol
*kevin pereira clap*
personnaly i think if you are actually going to worry about a number to tell you how good a game is you dont know much about self knowledge, if u wud actually play different games youd find some games youd actually like.
it is just a number. and bsides if u dont like it here go sumwhere else, they do seem tuff on non xbox games tho :P
why? here are a couple of reasons, they wait for like a month to review some of them,multiplatform games geta lower score on the wii than the ps3/360, they review ps3/360 games first, other sites give good scores while GS gives them a lower score. Crap reviewers review wii games like lv 10 users...
Dont come with that crap that "is someone's opinion", I know that but it makes tha game look bad when most of the times its not.
chelosera91
If you think they're Inaccurate then venture out of GameSpot or make a review of your own. I would trust the people at GS as they do it as their job.
[QUOTE="flintgijoe"]SMG-9.5
All this stuff about GS being biased is completely baseless. You here the Playstation fans, Xbox fans, and Nintendo fans all complain about "teh biased" from time to time. I think the reality is that a lot of Wii games don't compare well against PC, Xbox360, and PS3 games. When an awesome Wii game comes down the pipes, Gamespot gives it it's props.
weazur
They only gave it 9.5 because graphics are great
Yes I'm sure they think it's a complete waste of time to actually play, all other components of the game must be completely worthless.
Not at all. I think they are by far the most accurate website for game reviews, and don't just score and review to please fans. They score games high that really use the Wii to its fullest, both in its power and controls, instead of just throwing out high scores to half-baked efforts that use the controller in a really gimmicky way or feel like Gamecube games. Super Mario Galaxy and Zack And Wiki, if anything, reveal how lousy and lazy some of the games on Wii have been so far.
i find it quiet funny that the Nintendo fanboys are **** because their consol isnt as good as the 360. And the consiracy theories are just lame "GS is getting paid some extra money" haha very funny!
Nah, they're just graphics whores ....that's why SMG got a 9.5 (because the graphics are good)
Think about it....crysis:9.5 Gears: 9.6, Bioshock, 9.5, Halo 3: 9.5
While I agree with the bioshock and gears score....crysis and halo are totally just blahweazur
I have to agree here. I like Ign and Xplay better because they do value gameplay over graphics. Some maynot like Xplay but they have given several Wii games 4/5 (Cooking Mama, Rayman Raving Rabbids, SSX Blur, Madden 07, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, True Swing Golf, RE4:Wii edition...)
I mean GS was the only site that gave Twightlight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 something below an 8 and the fact that they gave SMG such a high score, blew my mind. I figured they'd complain about it not being in HD or not having online multiplayer or something like that.
Rule #1 Gameplay over graphics. A game can look great but play like crap. Lair anyone? Ya hear that Gamespot, get out of Sony's pocket or stop being Xbots and start focusing on what's really important in games.
I do think that GS doesn't do a great job, but they aren't terrible. My problem is that they aren't consistent. It goes all ways. Examples?
Zelda TP: as far as I'm concerned, that review was spot on. Other sites let the hype of the game get to them. GS gave an honest review which was completely logical.
WarioWare: 9.1? are you kidding me. I just don't understand this rating at all. Way to high in my opinion. They didn't seem to rate it at all in the same way as other Wii games. FE and SPM were downrated because of their gamecube presentation, and FE was taken down significantly.
Fire Emblem: Speaking of FE, it seems like they took this game completely out of context. It's a sequel, it was originally designed for gamecube, and it's greatness (at least as I understand it) is in its keeping its traditional gameplay. The review didn't seem to take a lot of things into account. If a game is for a specific crowd, I feel you should rate it as such.
I understand that this is a Wii game, and therefore it should be easy/family friendly/Mii filled/pointer oriented... but, No, actually, it doesn't. The Wii is for all kinds of games and all kinds of gamers. THAT is its appeal. Not what it seems like GS reviews the games on, though.
A lot of reviews are pretty good. I just hope it spurs developers to make even better games, but I doubt that since a review means little compared to the almighty dollar.
Edit: Sorry, this is long, but I'm going to make it a bit longer. As an aside, just go read the review for Assassins Creed and count the number of times they call it beautiful or amazing looking and don't talk about the game play.
Who cares if they do this for a living also?, doesn't mean there always right.Glitch321
It makes a huge difference that they do this professionally. Not only do they have vast experience with games in general, but they also have specific guidelines and priorities when writing reviews. They don't just write about whatever they feel like; they're supposed to be looking for objective aspects of a game and reporting them to us. They also have their work reviewed before its finalized to check for facts and other things. That's all a part of the professional review process, which is much different from a review you or I might write.
[QUOTE="weazur"]Nah, they're just graphics whores ....that's why SMG got a 9.5 (because the graphics are good)
Think about it....crysis:9.5 Gears: 9.6, Bioshock, 9.5, Halo 3: 9.5
While I agree with the bioshock and gears score....crysis and halo are totally just blahkbaily
I have to agree here. I like Ign and Xplay better because they do value gameplay over graphics. Some maynot like Xplay but they have given several Wii games 4/5 (Cooking Mama, Rayman Raving Rabbids, SSX Blur, Madden 07, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, True Swing Golf, RE4:Wii edition...)
I mean GS was the only site that gave Twightlight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 something below an 8 and the fact that they gave SMG such a high score, blew my mind. I figured they'd complain about it not being in HD or not having online multiplayer or something like that.
Rule #1 Gameplay over graphics. A game can look great but play like crap. Lair anyone? Ya hear that Gamespot, get out of Sony's pocket or stop being Xbots and start focusing on what's really important in games.
So the fact that they don't give most Wii games a high score (like Xplay), makes them unfair? That just doesn't make sense in any way, shape, size or form.
Both TP and MP3 got a score above 8.
Yeah, that's true and probably why GS gave it a 4.5.
First off, I love the Wii. It's the only system I play nowadays.
However, a vast majority of the games for it are bad. Twilight Princess was fun, but the combat was stupid. Since thats a major element of the game, they knocked it down a peg. It's like that for most games on the Wii. The controls are lame.
The only instance where I was angry by a lowballed review was MP3. That game deserved at least a 9, hands down. Oher than that, most games get bad reviews because they are bad games, like Bleach and Escape From Bug Island. Look at Lair and Jericho. Those games got bad reviews because they were somewhat bad games. The thing is that more games come out for the 360 than the Wii, so there's a greater chance that the games are good.
i find it quiet funny that the Nintendo fanboys are **** because their consol isnt as good as the 360. And the consiracy theories are just lame "GS is getting paid some extra money" haha very funny!
ChazRashburn
WTF is a 360 fan doing here? 360 board is that way -------->
take SMG and Halo 3 for example. Halo 3 was THE most hyped game, probably ever, and GS gave it a 9.5. I agree that's a fair score, but SMG which was better (imo) got the exact same score. I know GS only rates in .5 increments and I don't really think any game out deserves a 10, but their rating is saying that Halo 3 and SMG were both as good as each other (as well as a few more games that have been released lately).Ospov
That's not really what they're saying. If you read GS's FAQ on their review system, they say that the bar is being raised every day, so that a game that gets a 9.5 today is actually better than a game that got a 9.5 yesterday. They have to do this because otherwise games would quickly start exceeding the 10-point scale (i.e. if Halo 3 is better than a 9.0 game, then it receives a 9.5. If Galaxy is better than Halo, then it receives a 10. What happens when a game comes along that's better than Galaxy? See the problem there?).
This conversation is getting really old. There are 3 main points I would like to make.
(1) Gamespot reviewers are not biased toward 360 or PS3. They are biased toward different aspects of games. The visual content in a game weighs heavier in their minds than it does in the reviews of most other websites. This is a fact. They nit-pik at tiny details, expecting a game to be a perfect experience. This is a fact. Knowing this about them, their bias toward visuals and online compatibility amounts to nothing more than personal preference. IGN has a tendency to give you an idea of what the overall gaming experience feels like regardless of some negatives that aren't obvious to the average gamer. Their reviewing style is more beneficial to wii owners, because gameplay and overall fun is more important to us than visuals or online options. Plainly stated: Different preferences in what they like. What you could argure is their attention to detail. i.e., how important is voice acting in Zelda when the gaming experience is outstanding? To most people, not important at all. To gamespot, the lack of it was significant enough to deduct from the score. Understanding that what they look for in games is not primarily what we as wii owners look for in games should be enough for us to stop having this conversation. Can you argue with you friend for not liking a great bowl of pasta when what he really likes is hamburgers and fries?
(2) Let's not sit here and pretend that wii games get the greatest amount of attention or hard work on the visual end. Mario Galaxy proved that impressive visuals are possible on wii. It also proved that everyone else has been slacking to various extents. Regardless of how happy we've been with our wii experience, we've all witnessed ported over games with choppy visuals or ridiculously inconsistent controls. And with mini-games being so popular on this console, there's starting to be a build up of repetitive content on the wii similar to the repetitive crapload of FPS on 360. So originality and creativite have to become more of a factor in their reviews or else everything would be considered good. And if you've checked the ratings on some of those games on the 360 boards, their whining about scores for their games too. All this to say that basically, developers have been getting away with half-assing it for a whole year. Instead of defending that, let's ask them to step it up a bit. They might not want to spend the money or time to make their games look like Mario Galaxy, but that doesn't mean they can't or that it wouldn't be worth it. But if we consumers continue to suck up their half-assed efforts and BS ports, then we're saying that top-notch potential isn't important to us either. We just want something to play.
(3) What we're really saying here is that we want the wii to have an awesome library so that we have some venom to spit in the face of the nay-sayers. And honestly, a little vindication would do us good since apparently we're all between the ages of 5 and 15 and don't know what good gaming is since we don't all own a 360 or PS3. But these reviews aren't going to shut up the wii haters. You've probably noticed the nay-sayers not being intensely impressed with Mario Galaxy's score. They'll just blow it off as "ok, that's one good game the system's got." There will honestly be nothing we can do to make someone else appreciate what the wii brings to gaming if they are closed minded idiots. And we honestly shouldn't try.
So yes, The 9.5 on Mario Galaxy felt great because it deserved a 9.5. It stepped up on all levels and delivered in ways other games hadn't. That's one way to look at it. You could also say that the wii has had 2 9.5 games (Zelda, Metroid) and that Mario is a 10+. Either way, there's some terrible inconsistency in the quality of games we're getting, and it's mostly due to a lack of good content from the third party publishers. Nintendo is always going to take care of home. But the rest of these guys are plugging the pipelines with 2nd and 3rd rate garbage and we're bagging on gamespot for calling a spade a spade.
Plus, the bias does give me a general idea of what to buy. I know that if a game scores 7.0-7.5 and up from GS, it's worth buying. A similar range for IGN would be 7.5-8.0 and up. And as plenty have noted, it's not like these scores stop the games from selling. Mario Party 8 and Wii Play have been Nintendo's biggest movers this year. The only reason these scores matter is for us the tell the others to shove it, and that's the same attitude that makes those guys fanboys. And we're not fanboys...are we?
I feel that some people are taking Gamespot's reviews on Wii games a little too seriously these days. The fact is that they are what they are and nothing's going to change that. The point of any review is to point out your overall opinion of a game in general. Sure, Gamespot's reviews are also intended to be more professional (being more detailed about a game in all aspects, etc.), but at the end of the day, there's always going to be a matter of personal preference into the issue. You can talk about gameplay and production values all you want to, but regardless ofhow some games may feel to some or even most people, there are games that you're just not going to like and vice versa. That's just human nature going to work, and it will happen to even the most dependable reviews.
I suppose the question here should be if I feel that some ofGS' reviews have been a matter of someone just not being able to enjoy a game? To a degree, probably, but not anymore than any other professional review out there. I don't think the standards have been that much different to those of any other game for any other console. If a game is getting knocks, it's likely because the game isn't all that it could have been. And with all of the PS2 ports and half-baked games the Wii has seen in its early life, I don't think it's hard to say that a lot of games for the system haven't made the most of its potential. The hype and demand of the Wii has encouraged more developers to make games for the system. The downside to this is that most games have been made too quickly for the sake of either cashing in or trying to hard to make a bit hit that could become a franchise to cash off of for years to come.
All of this said, a review is also only used to inform a potential buyer and little more. If there are particular issues that you don't have a problem with or if you feel that there are areas in the review that you don't agree with, just ignore parts of that review or even the whole thing. Once again, even if a review (or even 100 review...) say something about a game, that doesn't mean it's an absolute thing. If you're able to seperate fact from fiction and overlook certain aspects, you should still be able to make your own decision whether or not a game is for you. I, for one, will not allow any review to change how I feel about a certain game, unless there are things that really jump out at me that I was previously unaware of. That's not always a negative thing, either. For example, before reading reviews of Zack & Wiki, I had thought almost nothing about the game. After reading multiple reviews, it has become a game I'm really looking forward to getting.
This is just my take on the whole thing. If you want, just call it my review on GS' reviews of late. :P
all these argument about gamespot just giving their "opinion", and that the mass public will have their "own" opinion as well so don't be angry at GS, is total bull.
a LOT of people notice that GS hates wii games (and love xbox360) because they are the only reviewer (from the list of well known review sites) different from all other well known review sites that gives consistent low scores/bad reviews to good/great games.
a review is different from a _biased_ comment on a game.
(btw, add mii to fire emblem? wtf??? why don't they make a screenshot option in that game and put it in photo channel as well? pfft...)
The level of fanboyism in this thread is unbelievable. If anything you people should be thankful that GameSpot has such a high standard when it comes to their reviews, and that goes for all platforms, not just the Wii.guisepppe
define "standard".
heck, define "review" as opposed to "opinion".
For those people defending GS or any kind of biased review remember that a reviewer is supposed to review games unbiasedly .
Because as everyone is aware a majority of people make game buying decisions based on high or low reviews, and when
bad reviews are thrown around carelessly people just assume those low reviewed games are crap which affects sales.
When money is involved in the equation its entirely possible that money gets thrown around to give good or bad reviews when
publishers or developers know it affects game sales......
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