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#1 chelosera91
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why? here are a couple of reasons, they wait for like a month to review some of them,multiplatform games geta lower score on the wii than the ps3/360, they review ps3/360 games first, other sites give good scores while GS gives them a lower score. Crap reviewers review wii games like lv 10 users...

Dont come with that crap that "is someone's opinion", I know that but it makes tha game look bad when most of the times its not.

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#2 dinofan01
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i agree their to hyped on games like halo. i prefer ign alot more. the review the games as a actual gamer would as to gamespots wanting it to ake it seem like some elite reviewer. ign tells you the things you want to know with out being biased
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#3 ZumaJones07
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we should all just move on... If other sites get more respect than GS, then it's GS's own fault for risking their credibility... Obviously no one here cares about what GS rates games because games like MP8 and Wii Play sell like crazy.
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#4 joshuadj
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Of course they are. If it's not halo automatic 0.000000 cept for SMG
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#5 _KwispY
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thhis is probably going to get locked soon, but i totally agree gamespot is biased on EVERYTHING wii. look at that crappy smg sms comparision. worst. screenshots. EVER.
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#6 Rexatar
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thhis is probably going to get locked soon, but i totally agree gamespot is biased on EVERYTHING wii. look at that crappy smg sms comparision. worst. screenshots. EVER._KwispY

I think graphics comparisons in general are pretty stupid. It really shows just how hung up some people are on the visual aspects of a video game. 
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#7 brawler08
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i actually think that there is reason to believe that sony could be possibly pushing money towards GS for advertising in the "right places". Since the fail of the PS3 sony has been forced to turn to pure politcts so they might be able to switch around gamers views about consols as it has been showing over the internet recently, and let me tell you i am SICK of it. i am SICK of GS giving good and deserving wii games bad scores out of pure biasness, and i am SICK of sony using dirty tacticts. though i am not sure whether GS is pulling some extra$, i have been forced now to not even take GS reviews seriously, and i just go look at the gamers scores since they seem to be able to do a better job in reviewing than the "professionals".
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#8 PhazonBlazer
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some stupid reviews

Bleach Shattered Blade 3.5

Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games 6

Fire Emblem RD 6

so yeah GS hates Wii most of the staff are big 360/PS3/PC/PSP fans

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#9 sonic_rusher
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I definitely think GS underrates games but not based on recent events like FE and RE UC. but games like MP3 and TP were so lame on GS part.
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#10 Rexatar
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why? here are a couple of reasons, they wait for like a month to review some of them,multiplatform games geta lower score on the wii than the ps3/360, they review ps3/360 games first, other sites give good scores while GS gives them a lower score. Crap reviewers review wii games like lv 10 users...

Dont come with that crap that "is someone's opinion", I know that but it makes tha game look bad when most of the times its not.

chelosera91

Maybe it's because most Wii games are not really that good. The same thing applies to most of the PS3's library. 


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#11 LOLhahaDEAD
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I didn't used to, but now I do.

They nitpick with the reviews and look for the smallest little things that could make the game bad. For example, why the hell would anyone want Mii integration in Fire Emblem?

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#12 zespair
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Mii integration in fire emblem? creepy lol
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#13 Duckman5
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I don't think they rate unfairly because it's their opinion. I DO however disagree with many of their reviews because I have different standards and tastes than they do.
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#14 brettneo3012
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I've been with this site since 2003. This is the worst it has been. Reviewers here are nothing more than a bunch of 360 lovers. Or microsoft or sony has some secret funding going on to this site that I don't know about.
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#15 weazur
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Nah, they're just graphics whores ....that's why SMG got a 9.5 (because the graphics are good)

Think about it....crysis:9.5 Gears: 9.6, Bioshock, 9.5, Halo 3: 9.5
While I agree with the bioshock and gears score....crysis and halo are totally just blah

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#16 Goten_king
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the only thing i don't like is when they contradict themselves. Sometimes they complain about the game being too easy and user freindly, other times too hard and not newcomer friendly, or too "hardcore". They dock points for graphical problems on a system that can't do much better than an xbox and on genres that require no graphics what so ever., some are agreeable but others not so much. They cripple games for audio reasonings that are a bit... overly dramatic. They bash games for not using mroe "wii features" when if they were implemented, they would be unnessesary and "forced".

I don't think they are wrong, just that hte reviewers aren't catching the wii's drift and aren't rating them on a the correct scale. MP3 is the most epic game on Wii right now. it has amaizng controls, amaizng graphics, amazing sounds, and good challange and replay.... what is wrong!? Fire emblem is near perfect for fans of the series, its not a series meant to be mainstream... why dock points for that. Mario Galaxy was pretty spot on.. a few minor gripes, but nothing bad. other games i could go on with, but i'm not in teh mood.


GO IGN ;)
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#17 weazur
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Mii integration in fire emblem? creepy lolzespair

SMG doesnt have Mii integration...why didnt they put that on there?

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#18 Duckman5
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[QUOTE="zespair"]Mii integration in fire emblem? creepy lolweazur

SMG doesnt have Mii integration...why didnt they put that on there?

Check this out. Here :P

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#19 Jayesler12
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i think GS are big 360 fans because i looked up Assassins Creed for the 360 and they gave it a 9.0 with editors choice. and IGN and teamxbox.com gave it like 7.9, 7.7. and both teamxbox.xom and IGN reviews were dead on about the game. BUT GS said things like oh this game is perfect etc. and they didn't even mention much of the flaws like weak CPU andtediousness. so yeah they probably give higher reviews for crappy 360 games and low scores for great wii games. although they did give a fari review for SMG. - the only review that didn't suck
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#20 spidermonkey11
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I only come here for the forums anyway. If GS gives a decent review I will read.A lot of times under the Good and Bad in reviews there points have little to do with actual gameplay or what makes the game fun or not fun.
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#21 jbrittain
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I have noticed that Gamespot definitely rates Wii games much lower than almost every other gaming website and magazine out there. I don't know if that's because they really dislike the Wii, or if their standards are just too high. I assume the latter, only because I hope any respectful gaming journalist wouldn't hold a bias against a game publisher.
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#22 khalid949494
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gs SUCK BALLS when it comes to rating games they might give one or two good reviews but there punks when it comes to rating wii games so I'm going to stay away from gs for a while and i still can't forgive them for a 7.0 for reuc :shock: and i will go check out ign and few better places peace out :arrow:
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#23 azorath44
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keep in mind its a matter of opinionon the reviews, even if they gave mario galxay a 2.0 whoop de do if i read the review and and decide for myself that i want it i would get it, i use gamespot for videos to read reviews and see screen shots not to have them tell me what to buy,
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#24 yodariquo
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Frankly, their reviews have been so shoddy that it's too difficult to discern "unfair" as it regards to Wii. It's unfair to gaming that things have gotten this bad.
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#25 Judah6
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I denfinity agree that Gamespot is unflair when rating Wii Games and I say this because I think there's just Hating on Nintendo and they when the Wii to fail, But When I see Ign rating Wii game they do it fair like Manhunt Ign give it a 7.7 GS give it a 7.0 they even put ps2 version higher then the Wii with a 7.5 and that's ridiculous!
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#26 Kamuikankatsu
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I rearly even look at the rating on GS, and when I do I dont usually pay much attention to them. I do think GS could put abit more thought into their Wii reviews too, there's alot of games which deserve more then what they got.
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#27 clarke0
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I just add .5 or 1.0 to the score if it looks fishy and then it pretty much works out. I always expect Gamespot to rate games lower on any console really. If I'm on the edge about buying a game I will typically look at multiple reviews, or go to gamerankings.com.
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#28 thetolan87
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I have a wiii and a 360, and my 360 gamesarebetter graphically andhave faster/smoother gameplay for the most part. So maybe that is why they are getting rated higher than wii games. Don't hate the player, hate your wii.Personally, I only bought the wii because i look forward to wielding alight saber someday, but for my shooters and sports games i turn to thesuperior gaming platform, the xbox 360.Perhaps you should too. I hate to say it, but outside of Mario and Pokemon, nintendo is slowly dying. Zelda was ok, but i bet 99 % of zelda fans were dissapointed, at least a little bit. That is my take.
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#29 thetolan87
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What happened to the spaces in between a lot of my words!?! I now DO have a problem with this "forum text machine".
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#30 bob_newman
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There's nothing wrong with their reviews because it's their opinion. They give a game what they feel it deserves. Besides, it's not about the "score" they give it that matters. A lot of people are just too lazy to read the full review, or watch the video review. If you read/watched the full reviews, you'd hear what they have to say.

Just because they have a section for "the bad" parts of the game, it doesn't mean that those things are what caused the score to be so "low" (I put "low" in quotes, because an 8.5 is considered "great" by GameSpot's standards. I personally don't see anything wrong with "great"...but that's just me). They're just some basic re-cap's of things that bothered them, it doesn't reflect the whole score. There are other reasons why a game got the score it did...namely things like "the levels don't fit well together", "the gameplay is too slow in some parts", "there are graphical glitches that take the player out of the experience", etc (Keep in mind that I'm just making these up, they didn't come from any review in particular. They're just examples of something you might see).

I normally agree with most of what they say when I play a game through. Like in Metroid Prime 3, I felt that there were things that held it back, and I felt it got the score it deserved (I wrote about it in my blog a while back, so I'm not going to get into it again). I get upset when I see a somewhat lower score than I though a game would get, but that's only because I want the game to be better than it actually turned out.

So far, Galaxy is the only game that has lived up to my standards (Wii Sports to a lesser degree, but it's more of a demo than a full game). It's the only game that I am fully satisfied with in the Wii library.

That's not to say that I didn't like any of the other games I own, far from it. I really like all of my games. I just thought that some could be better in some parts, or something doesn't quite fit in, or something is missing, etc. That doesn't mean that I don't like the games though, it just means that the games had more potential, and didn't fully deliver. Nothing wrong with that if you ask me. Not every game is going to be perfect.

You might think GameSpot's reviews are harsh, but I find that they're one of the only sites I can trust. I actually respect most of what they say. Not all of what they say, but most. They're only being so harsh because they have higher standards than most sites, so when a game isn't perfect, they'll point it out. They seem to be one of the only sites that aren't afraid to give a flagship franchise, such as Zelda or Metroid, a lower score than most. Just because these games have a huge fanbase doesn't mean that they have special privileges over other games. Because if Gamespot did give them special treatment...well than that, my friends, is what biased really is.

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#31 gam3r3OOO
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some stupid reviews

Bleach Shattered Blade 3.5

Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games 6

Fire Emblem RD 6

so yeah GS hates Wii most of the staff are big 360/PS3/PC/PSP fans

PhazonBlazer

Um...the only good game of that bunch was Fire Emblem.

Bleach, and Mario&Sonic Olymics got terrible reviews virtually everywhere.

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#32 freek666
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I didn't used to, but now I do.

They nitpick with the reviews and look for the smallest little things that could make the game bad. Forexample,why the hell would anyone want Mii integration in Fire Emblem?

LOLhahaDEAD

i know, wat kind of idiot actually thinks that? mii intergration? fire emblem? wtf!? wat a lame idea that it. themiis would look so bad in it. jesus christ has that guy ever even played a fire emblem game before?

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#33 Allin2911
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It might have a little something to do with the fact that every multi-platform game looks and feels better on the 360/PS3.
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#34 Erebyssial
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Personally I go to IGN for reviews. The Zelda TP and Metroid Prime 3 reviews here disapointed me.

bob_newman: "They seem to be one of the only sites that aren't afraid to give a flagship franchise, such as Zelda or Metroid, a lower score than most. Just because these games have a huge fanbase doesn't mean that they have special privileges over other games."

They're good games because they're good games, not because they have a huge fanbase.

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#35 Eagle-Teeth
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I really don't know why people get so bothered about reviews i mean take RE:UC i will be buying that BECAUSE I WANT IT! I don't care what anyone else says. Oh and as for IGN if you want reviews written by people who are easily impressed then thats the place.
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#36 guisepppe
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There's nothing wrong with their reviews because it's their opinion. They give a game what they feel it deserves. Besides, it's not about the "score" they give it that matters. A lot of people are just too lazy to read the full review, or watch the video review. If you read/watched the full reviews, you'd hear what they have to say.

Just because they have a section for "the bad" parts of the game, it doesn't mean that those things are what caused the score to be so "low" (I put "low" in quotes, because an 8.5 is considered "great" by GameSpot's standards. I personally don't see anything wrong with "great"...but that's just me). They're just some basic re-cap's of things that bothered them, it doesn't reflect the whole score. There are other reasons why a game got the score it did...namely things like "the levels don't fit well together", "the gameplay is too slow in some parts", "there are graphical glitches that take the player out of the experience", etc (Keep in mind that I'm just making these up, they didn't come from any review in particular. They're just examples of something you might see).

I normally agree with most of what they say when I play a game through. Like in Metroid Prime 3, I felt that there were things that held it back, and I felt it got the score it deserved (I wrote about it in my blog a while back, so I'm not going to get into it again). I get upset when I see a somewhat lower score than I though a game would get, but that's only because I want the game to be better than it actually turned out.

So far, Galaxy is the only game that has lived up to my standards (Wii Sports to a lesser degree, but it's more of a demo than a full game). It's the only game that I am fully satisfied with in the Wii library.

That's not to say that I didn't like any of the other games I own, far from it. I really like all of my games. I just thought that some could be better in some parts, or something doesn't quite fit in, or something is missing, etc. That doesn't mean that I don't like the games though, it just means that the games had more potential, and didn't fully deliver. Nothing wrong with that if you ask me. Not every game is going to be perfect.

You might think GameSpot's reviews are harsh, but I find that they're one of the only sites I can trust. I actually respect most of what they say. Not all of what they say, but most. They're only being so harsh because they have higher standards than most sites, so when a game isn't perfect, they'll point it out. They seem to be one of the only sites that aren't afraid to give a flagship franchise, such as Zelda or Metroid, a lower score than most. Just because these games have a huge fanbase doesn't mean that they have special privileges over other games. Because if Gamespot did give them special treatment...well than that, my friends, is what biased really is.

bob_newman

You sir, are spot on :). You put my thoughts into words and now I don't have to, thankyou ^^.

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#37 Glitch321
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Just because they give games like Zelda and MP3 lower marks doesn't mean they are more credible or right. I don't think Gamespot is bias i just think they idiots. Oh and Zelda totally deserved at least a 9.0.
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#38 EYEInferno
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*Signed* Wii gets underrated by GS alot.. Just look at Fire Emblem or Zelda.
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#41 nomadph
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*signed*.

they should issue a public apology as well, explaining that they're graphics whores who don't know anything about gameplay or game content.

(mii in fire emblem...lolz...nuff said)

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#43 Babinro
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While Gamespot for Wii tends to give 'lower' scores, I feel that if you read or watch the reviews they justify the scores very well. Take Metroid Prime 3 for example. That game is amazing, but they nail exactly why it shouldn't have been a 9.5 or 10 game that people wanted. While I personally prefer IGN, I feel Gamestop does a far better job of pointing out realistic negatives or actualities of a game.
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#44 wii60_lukatoll
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IGN FTW!!! you just gotta love matt and bozon
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#45 YamiSSJ4Goku
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What in the world are u people talking about. You guys are just complaining because you want them to give the games higher ratings. These reviewers have their own opinion, u have no right to tell them to alter their opinion just because u think that a wii game (that might not even be good) should get a higher mark. I have a wii and I think that their reviews are pretty accurate. Or are u guys just mad because they didn't give Mario Galaxy a 10 or something? If ur upset about the review, make ur own, or see what other people think about the game.
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#46 bigcalkenobi
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They did give Mg a good review, but thats probably one of the only Wii games to get a fair review. Most Wii games are below what other sites give them. LOZ TP being a great example. Mos games that they rate really high have great multiplayer. So if it doesn't have multiplayer like alot of the hardcore nintendo games, it automatically gets rated lower.
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#47 guisepppe
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They did give Mg a good review, but thats probably one of the only Wii games to get a fair review. Most Wii games are below what other sites give them. LOZ TP being a great example. Mos games that they rate really high have great multiplayer. So if it doesn't have multiplayer like alot of the hardcore nintendo games, it automatically gets rated lower.bigcalkenobi

So how do you explain games like BioShock, Guitar Hero 2, Assassin´s Creed, Eternal Sonata, TESIV: Oblivion or Dead Rising? All of which got a score above 8.0 without having multiplayer.

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#49 JordanElek
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Oh and Zelda totally deserved at least a 9.0.Glitch321

Even though all this drama about review scores bothers me, this quoted idea probably bothers me the most. Twilight Princess got an 8.8. What's the difference in .2?! The little word underneath the score? Obviously nobody cares about that word any way, since even 7.0 means "good" yet everyone apparently thinks that a 7.0 game is horrible.

bob_newman already said much of what I think, so I won't repeat it. Whenever I see people passionately complaining about a review score, though, it just blows my mind, especially since the vast majority of the complaining comes before any of us have even played any significant portion of the game.

And complaining about the score after you've beaten the game is nearly as bad. Sure, you're allowed to disagree with the reviewer's opinion, but who is any one of us to say what the game's rating should have been? It's hard to say that our opinions are better than the Gamespot reviewers', since they do this for a living. It's possible but unlikely. That's like my saying that I can play the guitar better than a professional; I might be able to play better than some, but it's unlikely.

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#50 Glitch321
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[QUOTE="Glitch321"]Oh and Zelda totally deserved at least a 9.0.JordanElek

Even though all this drama about review scores bothers me, this quoted idea probably bothers me the most. Twilight Princess got an 8.8. What's the difference in .2?! The little word underneath the score? Obviously nobody cares about that word any way, since even 7.0 means "good" yet everyone apparently thinks that a 7.0 game is horrible.

bob_newman already said much of what I think, so I won't repeat it. Whenever I see people passionately complaining about a review score, though, it just blows my mind, especially since the vast majority of the complaining comes before any of us have even played any significant portion of the game.

And complaining about the score after you've beaten the game is nearly as bad. Sure, you're allowed to disagree with the reviewer's opinion, but who is any one of us to say what the game's rating should have been? It's hard to say that our opinions are better than the Gamespot reviewers', since they do this for a living. It's possible but unlikely. That's like my saying that I can play the guitar better than a professional; I might be able to play better than some, but it's unlikely.

I can argue about a review score all i like, this is a review site forum so obviously scores do matter here. Who cares if they do this for a living also?, doesn't mean there always right. Look at what they gave games like Mario Kart and Shenmue.