Is there a reason why Goldeneye for the Wii looks like a pre gamecube game?

Look, I know gameply is more important than graphics, but there is no excuse for an exclusive Wii game of Goldeneye franchise's supposed quality to look like a pre gamecube, almost N64ish! The game looks even worse in splitscreen. What's with these devs that can no longer make splitscreen games?! I believe Timesplitters for the GCN had much better graphics, and the splitscreen games of the N64 and Gamecube had wider screens. Now for some reason all splitscreen games have small screens with terrible to almost N64 graphics!

I can understand smaller screens in a more graphic intensive game, but what is Goldeneye's excuse? The game looks like an old gamecube game. Also I have a flatscreen HD TV, so it's not my fault. Why is it that third party Wii games look so bad? Is it in someway weaker than the GCN, since that system had more consistent distribution of quality graphics among it's games. Star Fox Adventures for the GCN, a game that came out in 2002, looks better than half if not most Wii games out there. Why?

Conker live and reloaded for the Xbox could pass as an early Xbox 360 game, and supposedly the Wii is more capable than the Xbox. Why do Wii third party games look so bad? It is getting rediculous.

Also other than the graphics, Golden eye's gameplay is pretty much a mediocre version of Call of Duty, a waste of my time.

it´s not in nintendo´s hands nor ours. they just made it that way.

PS

The graphics are not that bad

the only gamecube Fps that looks better than goldeneye is maybe geist and that game has a horrible framerate

the only gamecube Fps that looks better than goldeneye is maybe geist and that game has a horrible framerate

JuarN18

Last gen GCNgame

Looks better than what Goldeneye looks in splitscreen.

...That splitscreen shot is from Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, which WAS a Gamecube game and is nothing like the Wii Goldeneye.

Single-player vs. Split-screen is silly anyway because developers will have to sacrifice some graphical fidelity in order to get the game running smoothly enough.

The first screen is Golden eye 007 for Wii. The last two are Golden eye rogue agent for the GCN.

I couldn't find any splitscreen shots of Goldeneye Wii, but you should know how disgustingly ugly it looks if you played it.

Have you even played the game? If so, this thread wouldn't exist.

Goldeneye looks fine when playing single player and awful when online

Also other than the graphics, Golden eye's gameplay is pretty much a mediocre version of Call of Duty, a waste of my time.

RECON64bit

Well if it's a waste of time to you, then you just wasted more time complaining about it on the forum as well. If you hate it that much then don't play it, but don't come crying to us. (I like it, but I do agree COD is better)

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Also other than the graphics, Golden eye's gameplay is pretty much a mediocre version of Call of Duty, a waste of my time.

drummerdave9099

Well if it's a waste of time to you, then you just wasted more time complaining about it on the forum as well. If you hate it that much then don't play it, but don't come crying to us. (I like it, but I do agree COD is better)

^ Truth

This is a bash thread. All i read was blah blah blah Goldeneye sucks. Why make a comparison on the visuals if gameplay is more important than graphics. You then continue to rant on the subject of graphics. Basically what i'm getting at is this whole thread is about graphics despite your efforts on concealing your personal feeling towards it.

Several remarks from your post continue to prove your ignorance.....

1. Timesplitters for the GCN had much better graphics.You'd have to be blind to come to that conclusion

2. All splitscreen games have small screens with terrible to almost N64 graphics.Do you really believe that

3. Goldeneye looks like an old gamecube game. Seriously Goldeneye looks substantially better than most GC games

4. third party Wii games look so bad.You obviously have had very little exposure to third party wii games. I dont need to list the games to prove that some third party devs have some visually stimulating games.But some that come to mind are... Monster hunter tri, The conduit 1&2, Red Steel 2, zack & wiki, Sonic Colours, Dead Space extraction, Xenoblade, The last story and many more.

5.Is it in someway weaker than the GCN.Why would you think that when we all know for a fact that isn't the case.

6. Star Fox Adventures for the GCN, a game that came out in 2002, looks better than half if not mostWii games out there. Why?Most is an exaggeration. It is true that quite a few third party are not putting in effort in their games for whatever reason, whether it's financially or someother means. You cant blame the physical console entirely.

7. Golden eye's gameplay is pretty much a mediocre version of Call of Duty. Despite the fact that Goldeneye outscored many COD games on several sites and is considered to be a competitive and worthy title against several COD games. Goldeneye's Gameplay refines several key aspects from the COD series and in some areas out does the COD series.

If you think every other game looks and plays better than Goldeneye Wii, then why don't you go off and play those games instead. Opinions i can respect, but none of your statements prove that to be the case. You said gameplay is more important than graphics but every word of your post says otherwise.

The graphics are beautiful to me. Maybe you're just being too harsh because you expect it to live up to the high standards set by the original, and this version didn't meet your personal hype for the game. It's ok, like you said, gameplay is more important.

...That splitscreen shot is from Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, which WAS a Gamecube game and is nothing like the Wii Goldeneye.

Single-player vs. Split-screen is silly anyway because developers will have to sacrifice some graphical fidelity in order to get the game running smoothly enough.

1PMrFister

That first comparison picture is Goldeneye for Wii. And the other is Goldeneye Rogue agent for last gen consoles. You just proved yourself wrong by saying Goldeneye Wii looks better.

Goldeneye doesn't look that bad, it's for the Wii, not PS3 and 360. Wii's graphical capabilities have not improved much over Gamecube. Considering that, I think itlooks just fine.

Are you playing on an hd tv? maybe that's why. My wii games look better on my SDTV.

The only Wii game that looks like an N64 game is iCarly. Goldeneye looks pretty good, even compared to 360/PS3 games, I was personally impressed that it was running on the Wii, so I don't know what you are talking about.

You dug up the worst screenshot of Goldeneye in existence (literally every single other screenshot looks better). That kind of makes me wonder about whether you made this thread in good faith.

yea.. graphics are garbage.

The first screen is Golden eye 007 for Wii. The last two are Golden eye rogue agent for the GCN.

I couldn't find any splitscreen shots of Goldeneye Wii, but you should know how disgustingly ugly it looks if you played it.

RECON64bit

The first one looks way better than the last two. It has much more detail. Look at the reflections on the floor, at the gun model, and at the detail on the kitchen counters. Oh, and fyi, that stuff on the kitchen counter is destructible game map terrain. Those pots and pans react to being fired at, making that fight in particular kind of interesting. Did rogue agent have that?

I just think the wii's harddrive isn't the best. Thats probably why. And they aren't that bad.YoungFlitz

?? wtf ?? i think u mean Processor, Graphics card, RAM, not just "harddrive" (of which the wii has none, only 512mb of FLASH storage).

but seriously, if the TC thinks these things about goldeneye, go back and play those old games, they really dont look that great today. You can throw any GCN game into the wii and run it! then be dissapointed. At the same time, i am really dissapointed we aren't see more effort in the wii's graphics. I have been playing House of the dead Overkill heaps lately. not a bad looking game, a little muddy in some patches, but it makes up for it with plenty of post processing and sheer style. i havent ever seen motion blur on the wii before.

Are you playing on an hd tv? maybe that's why. My wii games look better on my SDTV.

martinX3X

Are you people blind? Go ahead and play Golden eye on the nightclub level, it looks horrendous.

Are you people blind? Go ahead and play Golden eye on the nightclub level, it looks horrendous.

RECON64bit

You have an odd definition of "horrendous".

Are you people blind? Go ahead and play Golden eye on the nightclub level, it looks horrendous.

RECON64bit

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Are you people blind? Go ahead and play Golden eye on the nightclub level, it looks horrendous.

intro94

"like" button :D

i bet he prefers Cubivore's graphics over Gears of War....

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Are you playing on an hd tv? maybe that's why. My wii games look better on my SDTV.

teknic1200

I agree GoldenEye looks a bit ugly on the Graphics side in certain areas but for a Wii FPSgame it looks pretty good. I wouldn't go as far as to say it looks equivalent to a GCN game though. Also gameplay to me matters more then graphics like you said. I also grew up on Saturn, Mega CD, and the PS1 too so graphics really don't mean as much to me as maybesomeone who was more privilegedfirst starting outon the Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox or GCN (Last Gen) and never touched a system before that.

Also I'm playing SD games on a 1080i HDTV which might cause it to look worse or more blurry. I'll tell you what though HD or no HD the Blur effect when reloading is ugly and annoying. That's really the only thing I don't like about the game. I'm not sure because I never tried it but maybe if you get component cables for the Wii and plug them into your HDTV.....It might make the visuals a little better on the HDTV. Just a suggestion. I have yet to buy them myself so I don't really know if it will help or not.

I've played it... :|

It dosent look ugly

obviously the T.C never played the game

Though i Did notice that that the games textures are a tad to dark with not enough contrast, causing me to have to squint to see them, thus hurting my eyes. This is odd, as i usually think the oppostie of some games

anyoine else has this??

The graphics are still good though

Yeah, graphics aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be. I've been playing games since the NES and I have played just about every console in existance since then. This game does not look anything like an N64 game first of all... and it's definitely better than early GCN games, including Star Fox Adventures, which actually looks pretty bad when played today. (Despite thinking it was gorgeous at the time.) I also own a PS3 and 360 which I play regularly, and I did not find Goldeneye ugly in the least. Sure, it can't compare to the best I've seen on PS3 and 360, but I don't expect it to. Nor do I care. The game looks good. And it's a great game.

Are you playing on an hd tv? maybe that's why. My wii games look better on my SDTV.

martinX3X

If graphics decided whether or not games were good...........i would not play video games at all. Case and point mario galaxy 2.....rated a 10 by most critics and has no realism, sex or violence.....hardcore gamers are in it for the challenge and the fun/entertainment value....not the other way around grow up. No ps3 or 360 game has achieved any such thing so your complaint holds no water. Gaming is about gameplay.....not graphics.

If graphics decided whether or not games were good...........i would not play video games at all. Case and point mario galaxy 2.....rated a 10 by most critics and has no realism, sex or violence.....hardcore gamers are in it for the challenge and the fun/entertainment value....not the other way around grow up. No ps3 or 360 game has achieved any such thing so your complaint holds no water. Gaming is about gameplay.....not graphics.

punchacku

Also I'm playing SD games on a 1080i HDTV which might cause it to look worse or more blurry. I'll tell you what though HD or no HD the Blur effect when reloading is ugly and annoying. That's really the only thing I don't like about the game. I'm not sure because I never tried it but maybe if you get component cables for the Wii and plug them into your HDTV.....It might make the visuals a little better on the HDTV. Just a suggestion. I have yet to buy them myself so I don't really know if it will help or not.

Foulcry

component cablse help ALOT. colours wont bleed into each other anymore and you'll get cleaner and clearer picture quaility. even if ur TV is SD only i still say u mUST GET COMPONENT (its 3 times more picture info!)

are you nutz, goldeneye looks more better then many gc games,

in fact put n ightfire next to it and yo ull see ,even timesplitters future perfect lol , gc best lo okin fps is ts 3 by the way os ya

Typical third party wii game.

Gamecube game from 2002

Wii game from 2009

Xbox game

And this kids is what we call cherry-picking.

You dug up the worst screenshot of Goldeneye in existence (literally every single other screenshot looks better). That kind of makes me wonder about whether you made this thread in good faith.

GabuEx

I am only a concerned Wii owner, and the game does infact look like a N64 game in splitscreen, which is probably why there are no splitscreen shots.

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You dug up the worst screenshot of Goldeneye in existence (literally every single other screenshot looks better). That kind of makes me wonder about whether you made this thread in good faith.

RECON64bit

I am only a concerned Wii owner, and the game does infact look like a N64 game in splitscreen, which is probably why there are no splitscreen shots.

If graphics decided whether or not games were good...........i would not play video games at all. Case and point mario galaxy 2.....rated a 10 by most critics and has no realism, sex or violence.....hardcore gamers are in it for the challenge and the fun/entertainment value....not the other way around grow up. No ps3 or 360 game has achieved any such thing so your complaint holds no water. Gaming is about gameplay.....not graphics.

punchacku