Chaos control was extremely impressive when it came out and the (cd-i version) game still holds up well today.
Your favorite CD-i games?
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Chaos control was extremely impressive when it came out and the (cd-i version) game still holds up well today.
Sorry I had that other useless behemoth of failure: the amiga cd32evildead6789If we want to be technical, the CD-I did not fail. The CD32 started out good, They could have kept that momentum by porting somemore games and getting some more exclusives. But the Cd32 is a 5th generation console so it's hard to compare, but here are 5 good CD32 games for you.
the CD32 also has tons of great games, but when you advertise mutliplats the few times you do actually advertise, and have a rocky road after a decent launch it's hard to get back up. They did try harder later but they should have did it earlier.
[QUOTE="evildead6789"]Sorry I had that other useless behemoth of failure: the amiga cd32JakandsigzIf we want to be technical, the CD-I did not fail. The CD32 started out good, They could have kept that momentum by porting somemore games and getting some more exclusives. But the Cd32 is a 5th generation console so it's hard to compare, but here are 5 good CD32 games for you.
the CD32 also has tons of great games, but when you advertise mutliplats the few times you do actually advertise, and have a rocky road after a decent launch it's hard to get back up. They did try harder later but they should have did it earlier. That console made me stop gaming, till halflife was released off course.
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]Sorry I had that other useless behemoth of failure: the amiga cd32evildead6789If we want to be technical, the CD-I did not fail. The CD32 started out good, They could have kept that momentum by porting somemore games and getting some more exclusives. But the Cd32 is a 5th generation console so it's hard to compare, but here are 5 good CD32 games for you.
the CD32 also has tons of great games, but when you advertise mutliplats the few times you do actually advertise, and have a rocky road after a decent launch it's hard to get back up. They did try harder later but they should have did it earlier. That console made me stop gaming, till halflife was released off course. What the CD32? The main issue with it is that the few games that weren't slightly downgraded ports were terrible. There are a few gems, but to be honest, I think the hardware and controller itself kind of cause people to back away.
The Neo Geo didn't do well in the home console market. That's true. It was too damn expensive, that's why.
But in the arcade market, the Neo Geo was a top dog.
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I can't believe I keep having to argue these points with you. It's a pretty damn well known fact the CD-i was a failure. It's infamous.
Emerald_Warrior
This is all I can think about when it comes to the CD-i. This is its legacy.Your points were mainly it sold less. Basically making other systems you don't blindly hate suck in return backfiring on you. You have yet to prove the claim of chock full of edutainment. Should not be that hard to throw a list around with the internet what's taking you so long? you made the claim where are these edutainment games that took up the whole library? You have a skewed view of what makes a console a failure. It sold less yet made money, Tg16 sold more lost more money than the CD-I, and the Cd-I had made profits with the exceptions of some rough edges. The Genesis tehcnically, also lost more money and coast Sega a fortune (if we include the add-ons.) SNK sold less and lost more as well and went Bankrupt Sega never got out of the whole they dug, Nec was not coming back after their massive losses, and yet the Cd-I is a failure and you have yet to make a point. All you said was that: 1. it sold less 2.It's chock full of edutainment to the brim which you have yet to prove. 3. Then you just say you made your points when you really have not made any, and your first point backfired. Still waiting, it shouldn't takes you this long if it's as common as you keep claiming over and over again.[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
I already have made my points.
Crappy library chock full of edutainment, interactive movies, and karaoke. And I pointed out that low sales and being infamous support that. If those aren't good enough for you, then that's your problem and you have a skewed view of what makes a console a failure.
Heck, I'm not even the one here that has to prove my side. It's pretty well known that the console was a failure. You're the odd one out here that has to prove his uphill claim that it somehow succeeded in any way comprhendible. It wasn't even a great edutainment device, the PC and even the Leapster consoles do a better job at that.
Emerald_Warrior
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Right, because the mighty CD-i was a powerhouse in console gaming that's still talked about to this day and beloved by legions of fans...
Considering there are more Cd-I fansites out there than the TG16, the Neogeo, and many others yeah. But You don't do any reasearch you just won't admit you are wrong. You act like you know what you are talking about based on nothing. But fine continue to act the way you usually do as I present a list of some of the many games you will be missing, and one wild card at the bottom:
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Considering there are more Cd-I fansites out there than the TG16, the Neogeo, and many others yeah.Emerald_Warrior
Complete B.S.
indeed, the neo geo was in a lot of arcade halls
they even remade it
Not to mention the neo geo was way too expensive for john doe, it's also the reason you found it in the arcade's
philips cd-i was more like a gimmick
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Considering there are more Cd-I fansites out there than the TG16, the Neogeo, and many others yeah.evildead6789
Complete B.S.
indeed, the neo geo was in a lot of arcade halls
they even remade it
Not to mention the neo geo was way too expensive for john doe, it's also the reason you found it in the arcade's
philips cd-i was more like a gimmick
It's a fact you have yet to prove with one link of a reliable source. You keep backfiring your own arguments, there you go with selling less than a million again, Neo Geo is garbage. Gaps between the Dreamcast and the PS2 was even larger and there was more market, most be an even worse failure. Want to know why it was a success? Profitable, greenbook CD-I format was standar for a around decade before DVD from 1990 to 1999. 35+ CD-i players all in different shapes and sizes. it was an open format, you could make a CD-I system with no issues, it was like android, everything that worked on one, for the most part with exception worked on another. 2. These companies all made CD-I systems: 1. Phillips 2. Sony 3. LG 4. Goldstar 5. DVS 6. Memorex 7. Grundig 8. Bang & Olufsen 9. Kyocera 10. NBS 11. Highscreen 12. Magnavox The sales of the Cd-I only technically apply to Phiilips, there are millions of CD-I systems since it was open, how much each of those sold is a mystery. 3. The fact the system eventually did support DVD with some models, which Phillips would not be bothered if there was no interest. 4. The first console with a full online system, even with gold club to donwload demos and view certain thing on CD-online/Web-i. Including E-mail and browsing. 5. The phillips basic CD-I models alone lasted until around 98 hardware wise, The CD-I format did not die until 2000. Around near a decade. 6. CD-I format had tons of Video CD and Photo CD support that worked on all systems and like CD's you would but in the store for artists like say, Micheal Jackson, there would a times be CD-I versions (which means it's not a thing added to the library) compatible with the many different CD-I devices. 7. The first console to have a cross location online gaming system. 8. DVC cart for enhancing the graphics of even later CD-I systems to give each model additional visual and often sound performance. A lot of CD-I models can use this. 9. Portable CD-I players for on the Go. Even hybrid of TV and portable (sony had ones of these.) 10. Again unlike regular CD's which usually require it to work on specific supported players, all types of CD-I machines can play CD-I discs, this means all for the most part, of the CD-i library can work on all CD-I systems. 11. Since the majority of the CD-I official CD-I licensed library actually contains more traditional and interactive games then edutainment, The licensed library contains around 200+ titles. 12.Due to the way Cd-I systems are designed the same way kind of like android phones running the same OS. with some exception, most software for Cd-i machines do not have "technical requirements" like say, PC CD's or DVDs. Instead, they will automatically downgrade or upgrade the technical areas depending on the low or high specs of the CD-I device. If it wasn't a success, this would not make any sense now would it? You're turn. It was a standard, not a full standard, but it had a pretty big chunk of pie. As an organized format, it was pretty much the standard. Sony would use similar technology in its Playstation, but have its own take on it that would be different, and would use the closed CD-Rom format instead of an open one. Dares i say the PSX would not even exist.[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
And what does any of that have to do with the price of tea in China? A list war of what? Does any of that have to do with the fact that the CD-i failed, miserably? Does any of that have to do with the fact that it's CONSTANTLY cited as one of the worst consoles ever? Does any of that have to do with the fact that it's nothing more than a side-note in the history of Nintendo? Or that it couldn't even sell 1 million units?
Keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about. It's really helping your case here, while you continue to prove what a massive success the CD-i is...oh wait, you didn't.
Emerald_Warrior
Yeah, that's all interesting and all, but again, despite all those fancy facts, it barely sold over a half a million units. That's an abysmal failure no matter how technogical it may have been at the time. How is that even debatable?
And I thought I already took care of the Neo Geo thing. AES, aka home unit, failure due to the price; MVS, aka arcade unit, big success.
And regarding the PSX vs. CD-i comparison you made: You realize that it's other way around, right? CD-i would not exist if not for the PlayStation. The only reason the CD-i exists is because Nintendo broke it's deal with Sony to make a CD add-on for the SNES, and made a deal with Phillips to do the same thing (which that deal also fell through). So yeah, that doesn't work either. But then, I don't know anything, isn't that right?
I see you never read the "fancy facts" because only a couple CD-I models compromise those sales. Clearly with all those manufacts, they must have sold quite a bit as well and saw some interest. I like how you fail to see that, you are now pretty much crying because you have nothing left whatsoever. You say it sold that much yet won't even think about the fact there are dozens of CD-I systems other than the 3 or 4 that comprise the sales on your favorite wikipedia page. but i would not expect you to do that. You can't be wrong, you can't, it's not possible. :roll: Let me show you everything wrong with your post AGAIN BELOW. As for your CD-I PSX thing, you are really just down for the count. You are now comparing the "Play Station" to the "Playstation" which are not even the same thing. Nice work, you fail-ed miserably. But the best part about that is you are completely wrong.HmmmmThe PlayStation made its debut at the Consumer Electronics Show in June 1991 when Sony revealed its console, a Super Famicom with a built-in CD-ROM drive
Hmmmmmmmmmm\However, a day after the announcement at CES, Nintendo announced that it would be breaking its partnership with Sony, opting to go with Philips instead but using the same technology.
And you lost. Please continue, I think i am teaching you many things. Here's a 1990 advertisement:Work on the CD-i began in 1984 and it was first publicly announced in 1986. The first Philips CD-i player, released in 1991 and initially priced around USD $700
Yep, what a failure it was...not. Other than sales, which the Neo Geo, Genesis, and TG16 also failed to beat the SNES as well. Does your foot taste good? you keep putting it in your mouth. Also, i notice that you also like to shove it up your anus as well.
The "Play Station" led to the "PlayStation", how is that a miserable fail? If Nintendo never cut it's deal with Sony to make the "Play Station", the "PlayStation" would have never existed. They directly connect to each other, they aren't totally different things.
Anyways, I give up.
You can live you're fantasy land where CD-i is the greatest thing ever and stood neck-and-neck with the Sega Genesis and SNES.
Me on the other hand, I'll believe that when me crap turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbert.
You are a piece of shit. I never even said that anywhere, I knew at some point you were going to be proven wrong and then do this tactic, I just though it only would have been the SNES. This is about the CD-I being a failure, don't even change it. You also did nto read, i want you to read your failure right here:The "Play Station" led to the "PlayStation", how is that a miserable fail? If Nintendo never cut it's deal with Sony to make the "Play Station", the "PlayStation" would have never existed. They directly connect to each other, they aren't totally different things.
Anyways, I give up.
You can live you're fantasy land where CD-i is the greatest thing ever and stood neck-and-neck with the Sega Genesis and SNES.
Me on the other hand, I'll believe that when me crap turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbert.
Emerald_Warrior
PSX vs. CD-i comparison you made: You realize that it's other way around, right? CD-i would not exist if not for the PlayStation. The only reason the CD-i exists is because Nintendo broke it's deal with Sony to make a CD add-on for the SNESEmerald_Warrior
And then you do the same thing again now. I swear, this si why such conversation about gaming history don't exist in legacy platforms and now I know why, people like you. You have a closed-mind and you refuse to be proven wrong, you have yet to prove anything. but why do you keep ignoring your mistakes Emerald_warrior? Why won't you stop being a clown and stop with tis "lol trash because I said so" talk when facts are put right in front of you? Explain the above part where you clearly have yoour history wrong? You going to run off now when you are completely wrong about everything and change words around so you can feel better? Why do you even post in any thread then about any kind of opinion, when you keep doing all the stuff I have just shown above? How about you get an education about this stuff Emerald_warrior. What are you giving up on? Yourself? Lol seriously? Let's start one step at a time, why are you ignoring your mistakes and pretending they did not happen and then changing words around? Why won't you admit you got your history of the CD-i wrong when i just showed you it was wrong? you can redeem yourself at anytime by having a real discussion instead of your continuous ignorant stance on thinking you're right about anything, it's mind-boggling how someone like you that clearly IS NOT stupid makes himself look this idiotic.Work on the CD-i began in 1984 and it was first publicly announced in 1986. The first Philips CD-i player, released in 1991 and initially priced around USD $700
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]How is the company making profit having a system out for around 7 years with around 300 titles with no losses a failure? The only way you could say it failed, is that it was not the best selling system that generation. But I expected this from people with no experience from the system that use people like AGVN and more to get false ideas. In no category was the system a failure other than it not being a best selling console that generation. 7 or so years on the market with dozens of software, and a lot of nice CD-I only games and best versions of some multiplats. I can't see where the failure is coming from. =Wow, if you don't consider CD-i a failure of a console, then you must not consider ANY console a failure.
Jakandsigz
This one is the biggest because it basically tells everyone what kind of person you are resulting to one of if not the most awful thing to do in a discussion. Especially when you kept putting your foot in your mouth and ignoring all facts presented the entire time. Part 2: This was posted on page 2, where you pretty much put out the fact you were not reading anything that was being posted except maybe a few sentences. You ignored all facts posted on the first page.The "Play Station" led to the "PlayStation", how is that a miserable fail? If Nintendo never cut it's deal with Sony to make the "Play Station", the "PlayStation" would have never existed. They directly connect to each other, they aren't totally different things.
Anyways, I give up.
You can live you're fantasy land where CD-i is the greatest thing ever and stood neck-and-neck with the Sega Genesis and SNES.
Me on the other hand, I'll believe that when me crap turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbertEmerald_Warrior
Here is another post where you did that just as badly in the bold text:I already have made my points.
Crappy library chock full of edutainment, interactive movies, and karaoke. And I pointed out that low sales and being infamous support that. If those aren't good enough for you, then that's your problem and you have a skewed view of what makes a console a failure.
Heck, I'm not even the one here that has to prove my side. It's pretty well known that the console was a failure. You're the odd one out here that has to prove his uphill claim that it somehow succeeded in any way comprhendible. It wasn't even a great edutainment device, the PC and even the Leapster consoles do a better job at that.
Emerald_Warrior
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Yep, even a site with all the old magazines or at least most of them http://www.philipscdi.com/press.htm and fans having servers up for online gaming and other goodies. But hey, you8 know nothing at all so if you want to have a list war with me I'll end up winning let's go you do the first move. Should we start with Neo Geo or TG16? Emerald_Warrior
And what does any of that have to do with the price of tea in China? A list war of what? Does any of that have to do with the fact that the CD-i failed, miserably? Does any of that have to do with the fact that it's CONSTANTLY cited as one of the worst consoles ever? Does any of that have to do with the fact that it's nothing more than a side-note in the history of Nintendo? Or that it couldn't even sell 1 million units?
Keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about. It's really helping your case here, while you continue to prove what a massive success the CD-i is...oh wait, you didn't.
It's a fact you have yet to prove with one link of a reliable source. You keep backfiring your own arguments, there you go with selling less than a million again, Neo Geo is garbage. Gaps between the Dreamcast and the PS2 was even larger and there was more market, most be an even worse failure. Want to know why it was a success? Profitable, greenbook CD-I format was standar for a around decade before DVD from 1990 to 1999. 35+ CD-i players all in different shapes and sizes. it was an open format, you could make a CD-I system with no issues, it was like android, everything that worked on one, for the most part with exception worked on another. 2. These companies all made CD-I systems: 1. Phillips 2. Sony 3. LG 4. Goldstar 5. DVS 6. Memorex 7. Grundig 8. Bang & Olufsen 9. Kyocera 10. NBS 11. Highscreen 12. Magnavox The sales of the Cd-I only technically apply to Phiilips, there are millions of CD-I systems since it was open, how much each of those sold is a mystery. 3. The fact the system eventually did support DVD with some models, which Phillips would not be bothered if there was no interest. 4. The first console with a full online system, even with gold club to donwload demos and view certain thing on CD-online/Web-i. Including E-mail and browsing. 5. The phillips basic CD-I models alone lasted until around 98 hardware wise, The CD-I format did not die until 2000. Around near a decade. 6. CD-I format had tons of Video CD and Photo CD support that worked on all systems and like CD's you would but in the store for artists like say, Micheal Jackson, there would a times be CD-I versions (which means it's not a thing added to the library) compatible with the many different CD-I devices. 7. The first console to have a cross location online gaming system. 8. DVC cart for enhancing the graphics of even later CD-I systems to give each model additional visual and often sound performance. A lot of CD-I models can use this. 9. Portable CD-I players for on the Go. Even hybrid of TV and portable (sony had ones of these.) 10. Again unlike regular CD's which usually require it to work on specific supported players, all types of CD-I machines can play CD-I discs, this means all for the most part, of the CD-i library can work on all CD-I systems. 11. Since the majority of the CD-I official CD-I licensed library actually contains more traditional and interactive games then edutainment, The licensed library contains around 200+ titles. 12.Due to the way Cd-I systems are designed the same way kind of like android phones running the same OS. with some exception, most software for Cd-i machines do not have "technical requirements" like say, PC CD's or DVDs. Instead, they will automatically downgrade or upgrade the technical areas depending on the low or high specs of the CD-I device. If it wasn't a success, this would not make any sense now would it? You're turn. It was a standard, not a full standard, but it had a pretty big chunk of pie. As an organized format, it was pretty much the standard. Sony would use similar technology in its Playstation, but have its own take on it that would be different, and would use the closed CD-Rom format instead of an open one. Dares i say the PSX would not even exist.Yeah, that's all interesting and all, but again, despite all those fancy facts, it barely sold over a half a million units. That's an abysmal failure no matter how technogical it may have been at the time. How is that even debatable?
And I thought I already took care of the Neo Geo thing. AES, aka home unit, failure due to the price; MVS, aka arcade unit, big success.
And regarding the PSX vs. CD-i comparison you made: You realize that it's other way around, right? CD-i would not exist if not for the PlayStation. The only reason the CD-i exists is because Nintendo broke it's deal with Sony to make a CD add-on for the SNES, and made a deal with Phillips to do the same thing (which that deal also fell through). So yeah, that doesn't work either. But then, I don't know anything, isn't that right?
It's pretty terrible what childish lengths you will go to for no real reason. Part 3: The response to the above post pointing out your mistakes and your lack of actual knowledge of gaming history: [QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] I see you never read the "fancy facts" because only a couple CD-I models compromise those sales. Clearly with all those manufacts, they must have sold quite a bit as well and saw some interest. I like how you fail to see that, you are now pretty much crying because you have nothing left whatsoever. You say it sold that much yet won't even think about the fact there are dozens of CD-I systems other than the 3 or 4 that comprise the sales on your favorite wikipedia page. but i would not expect you to do that. You can't be wrong, you can't, it's not possible. :roll: Let me show you everything wrong with your post AGAIN BELOW. As for your CD-I PSX thing, you are really just down for the count. You are now comparing the "Play Station" to the "Playstation" which are not even the same thing. Nice work, you fail-ed miserably. But the best part about that is you are completely wrong.HmmmmThe PlayStation made its debut at the Consumer Electronics Show in June 1991 when Sony revealed its console, a Super Famicom with a built-in CD-ROM drive
Hmmmmmmmmmm\However, a day after the announcement at CES, Nintendo announced that it would be breaking its partnership with Sony, opting to go with Philips instead but using the same technology.
And you lost. Please continue, I think i am teaching you many things. Here's a 1990 advertisement:Work on the CD-i began in 1984 and it was first publicly announced in 1986. The first Philips CD-i player, released in 1991 and initially priced around USD $700
Yep, what a failure it was...not. Other than sales, which the Neo Geo, Genesis, and TG16 also failed to beat the SNES as well. Does your foot taste good? you keep putting it in your mouth. Also, i notice that you also like to shove it up your anus as well. But you completely ignored this. I believe this is what broke your last straw in terms of your "lalalala" attitude, and made you post your little change of topic pretending this conversation was about something completely different. Don't forget the many minor mistakes and bad deed you did, most notably the backfires about CD-I sales equaling a failure and your ignoring all the systems that would fall into the same category using your flawed logic. Maybe one day people will have fine discussions. I have to say you got me angry enough to call you a piece of shit, which is pretty impressive for a stubborn troll. I usually don;t get that mad, but you're kind of personality is very very annoying, enraging, and just plain nonsense. The fact you act this way just shows me that you are most likely and awful person at heart regardless if you show it outside the screen or not or you are having sadistic fun. I will declare this V-E_W day or "Victory over Emerald_Warrior day" as that is exactly what happened almost every single post which was completely ignored and then the discussion just died with that last childish post you made. I'm going to have to hold onto the Sega history thread now I was going to post, thanks for showing me what kind of people are here who would just ignore all of the facts of Segas history anyway.Â
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So you're saying that the Cd-I beat the Dreamcast??? I can't find this info anywhere. Source pwease.Â
Dude, I'm not changing anything. TO BE CLEAR: The CD-i is a failure, said so from the beginning, still say so, never didn't say so. It's a complete, absolute, without a shadow of a doubt on God's green earth, one of the most infamous, hated, and looked down upon, monumentul failures in the history of all gaming.Emerald_WarriorYou still have yet to prove how it was a failure. [QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]And that's ALL models, not your B.S. claim that it only tracks one model. And again, you keep claiming that TG-16 and Neo Geo are on the same ball park. No freaking way. No where does your link include all models. in fact, it's clear wikipedias random page has other websites with the same number, because if you actually click on the source it's just taking a random websites word for it,. And yet, it still does not say it's all of them. However, some site do have it being discontinued in 1998. but those were the models that made up the original that the 570,000 is referring to. Because the 670 came out in may 1999 because I had brought it at launch since by laser was acting up with my other one. Since your own sources state 1998, it should be clear there is an issue somewhere isn't there? Please feel free not to notice this as you usually do.
TG16 10 million, And I keep clarifying over and over again, the Neo Geo MVS Emerald_WarriorNo it was not top dog in the arcade seen. it had a few hit games, most of its games aren't that easy to get a copy of and SNK went bankrupt. There most profitable hardware yet was the NGP and NGPC. It also doesn't matter, stop trying to run from the fact you sales logic fails here. Doesn't matter is Tg10 sold 10 million, it still sold a whole league less, and they dropped support real quickly and lost tons and tons of money. The Neo Geo also sold less than the CD-I and actually was cheaper than the Cd-I when it came out for awhile. There is no excuse you can use for this, none.
You are also completely full of crap about it beating the Dreamcast:Emerald_WarriorI never said it did. You actually showed me again what you will change to try to make yourself look good. What you clearly did was misinterpret the above post and then though you would use it as ownage when he/she above actually was talking about full fledged online gaming. Unless you can find a post that shows i said this.
There are also not more fans or fansites for CD-i than there are TG-16 or Neo-Geo sites. That's another pile of o crap you're heaping on the pile.Emerald_WarriorI see you are using the "cry about it until they give up" strategy. Sorry, i offered you a list war. Will you start with Tg16 or Neo Geo first? Btw, nice back up for this lol.
How about this Game Trailers video counting down the worst consoles of all-timeEmerald_WarriorThat's nice, i see you don't remember the wikis and public hate for the 3DO, TG16, jaguar, and for a short time the Saturn. You know, being into "history" and all as you claim.
The combination of both critical panning, low sales, and bad-word of mouth combine to make it an undeniable failure of a system.Emerald_WarriorFailure you say with no real proof. Remember, you did go on a troll run about sales, now you are backing off from that partially and just saying it just to say it at this point. Maybe you don't know the actual definition of failure? Fun fact:
But it was a failure. BTW, I wonder why Phillips did what this article says at the bottom right, and for dual-layer DVD no less:Green Book is the informal name of the Compact Disc Interactive Full Functional Specification, as laid down by Philips, Sony and Microware. It is named after the green cover of the book, and it is in line with the other CD-systems which also bear their own "color"-identification (such as red for CD-Audio, yellow for CD-ROM and white for Video-CD). It was the standard for VCD, Photo CD's and other types of format until 1993, when white book was created for more powerful VCD technology using code from green book. by 1996 White book became the VCD standard and CD-roms had a large lead. By 1998 the Greenbook standard was losing popularity and only Phillips and a few partners went out to get content n the disc format.
And all this claiming that this is me not knowing what I'm talking about is a bunch of B.S. Most people here know me and know I'm very into the history of classic gamingEmerald_WarriorExcept this is factually wrong because your SNES to CD-I connection which I proved wrong and you completely pushed aside among a few others things I showed like online, shows you could give to craps about gaming history unless you can be Mr. always right bigshot.
You, and you alone are the only person that thinks the CD-i is somehow a success in any way imaginableEmerald_WarriorNope. still waiting for those TG16 and Neo Geo fansites. I already have all my links on standby anytime now. I've already done this, please feel free to try and fail. Oh btw, I am still waiting for that proof of the CD-I and the SNES CD thing being related apology after your own source even proved for me that they has nothing to do with each other Mr. I like gaming history. I THINK the main issue here is you actually made yourself forget what the point of this was about and actually believe I think the CD-I is one of the greatest consoles of all time. That's the problem, you think I am looking at the CD-i as a full fledged gaming console. It has good games, it set a standard format for years, it introduced the playstation, and started online gaming correctly for the first time. but go back to the first page when you first crashed the thread for a second, notice in my response post when you names a list of system only one system was bolded.
Dude, I'm not changing anything. TO BE CLEAR: The CD-i is a failure, said so from the beginning, still say so, never didn't say so. It's a complete, absolute, without a shadow of a doubt on God's green earth, one of the most infamous, hated, and looked down upon, monumentul failures in the history of all gaming.Emerald_WarriorYou still have yet to prove how it was a failure. [QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]And that's ALL models, not your B.S. claim that it only tracks one model. And again, you keep claiming that TG-16 and Neo Geo are on the same ball park. No freaking way. No where does your link include all models. in fact, it's clear wikipedias random page has other websites with the same number, because if you actually click on the source it's just taking a random websites word for it,. And yet, it still does not say it's all of them. However, some site do have it being discontinued in 1998. but those were the models that made up the original that the 570,000 is referring to. Because the 670 came out in may 1999 because I had brought it at launch since by laser was acting up with my other one. Since your own sources state 1998, it should be clear there is an issue somewhere isn't there? Please feel free not to notice this as you usually do.
TG16 10 million, And I keep clarifying over and over again, the Neo Geo MVS Emerald_WarriorNo it was not top dog in the arcade seen. it had a few hit games, most of its games aren't that easy to get a copy of and SNK went bankrupt. There most profitable hardware yet was the NGP and NGPC. It also doesn't matter, stop trying to run from the fact you sales logic fails here. Doesn't matter is Tg10 sold 10 million, it still sold a whole league less, and they dropped support real quickly and lost tons and tons of money. The Neo Geo also sold less than the CD-I and actually was cheaper than the Cd-I when it came out for awhile. There is no excuse you can use for this, none.
You are also completely full of crap about it beating the Dreamcast:Emerald_WarriorI never said it did. You actually showed me again what you will change to try to make yourself look good. What you clearly did was misinterpret the above post and then though you would use it as ownage when he/she above actually was talking about full fledged online gaming. Unless you can find a post that shows i said this.
There are also not more fans or fansites for CD-i than there are TG-16 or Neo-Geo sites. That's another pile of o crap you're heaping on the pile.Emerald_WarriorI see you are using the "cry about it until they give up" strategy. Sorry, i offered you a list war. Will you start with Tg16 or Neo Geo first? Btw, nice back up for this lol.
How about this Game Trailers video counting down the worst consoles of all-timeEmerald_WarriorThat's nice, i see you don't remember the wikis and public hate for the 3DO, TG16, jaguar, and for a short time the Saturn. You know, being into "history" and all as you claim.
The combination of both critical panning, low sales, and bad-word of mouth combine to make it an undeniable failure of a system.Emerald_WarriorFailure you say with no real proof. Remember, you did go on a troll run about sales, now you are backing off from that partially and just saying it just to say it at this point. Maybe you don't know the actual definition of failure? Fun fact:
But it was a failure. BTW, I wonder why Phillips did what this article says at the bottom right, and for dual-layer DVD no less:Green Book is the informal name of the Compact Disc Interactive Full Functional Specification, as laid down by Philips, Sony and Microware. It is named after the green cover of the book, and it is in line with the other CD-systems which also bear their own "color"-identification (such as red for CD-Audio, yellow for CD-ROM and white for Video-CD). It was the standard for VCD, Photo CD's and other types of format until 1993, when white book was created for more powerful VCD technology using code from green book. by 1996 White book became the VCD standard and CD-roms had a large lead. By 1998 the Greenbook standard was losing popularity and only Phillips and a few partners went out to get content n the disc format.
And all this claiming that this is me not knowing what I'm talking about is a bunch of B.S. Most people here know me and know I'm very into the history of classic gamingEmerald_WarriorExcept this is factually wrong because your SNES to CD-I connection which I proved wrong and you completely pushed aside among a few others things I showed like online, shows you could give to craps about gaming history unless you can be Mr. always right bigshot.
You, and you alone are the only person that thinks the CD-i is somehow a success in any way imaginableEmerald_WarriorNope. still waiting for those TG16 and Neo Geo fansites. I already have all my links on standby anytime now. I've already done this, please feel free to try and fail. Oh btw, I am still waiting for that proof of the CD-I and the SNES CD thing being related apology after your own source even proved for me that they has nothing to do with each other Mr. I like gaming history. I THINK the main issue here is you actually made yourself forget what the point of this was about and actually believe I think the CD-I is one of the greatest consoles of all time. That's the problem, you think I am looking at the CD-i as a full fledged gaming console. It has good games, it set a standard format for years, it introduced the playstation, and started online gaming correctly for the first time. but go back to the first page when you first crashed the thread for a second, notice in my response post when you names a list of system only one system was bolded.
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