Peter Molyneux apologizes to Fable fans... for the third time

"…when I read in the middle of a [Fable III] review that the quality just wasn't good enough, I actually agree with those reviews." - Peter Molyneux

It looks lke the Fable series is destined to be loved and to disappoint at the same time. How can you not love the idea of a funny, quirky action packed world that reshapes itself according to your actions? At the same time, how can you not be disappointed when many of the features promised in the months before release don't make it into the game or are nothing more than barely functional stubs?

It has also become sort of traditional for Peter Molyneux to apologize to Fable fans for the aforementioned missed opportunities:

He did so after Fable:

"If I have mentioned any feature in the past which, for whatever reason, didn't make it as I described into Fable, I apologize. Every feature I have ever talked about WAS in development, but not all made it"

He did so after Fable II:

"Fable II's story was rubbish."

"Let's be honest, [Fable II] had some terribly messy things about it."

Now he apologizes about Fable III:

"Lionhead -- especially me -- has never created projects in less than two years. This was the first time we ever did that,"

"we didn't have the time to craft that into what that dream was."

"…when I read in the middle of a [Fable III] review that the quality just wasn't good enough, I actually agree with those reviews."

To be honest I like the man, despite his many gaffes he's a talented game designer (he gave us Populous, Syndicate, Black & White, Dungeon Keeper and Fable itself after all). It's a pity his vision can never translate to reality the way he wants. If anything he should apologize about that Project Milo farce Microsoft had him come up with two E3 ago to promote the Kinect.

Keep trying Pete, you'll get it 100% right eventually. On second though: 80% right would be good too.

What do you people think, will he eventually make the game he originally envisioned? Is Fable the Journey the fourth time charm? Somehow I doubt this is the case.

Fable III isn't a bad Fable and neither are the first two, so he should really stop apologizing. It's all about improving the series and making them better and better until that one game has the right elements. A series like Final Fantasy didn't get it right until Final Fantasy IV, so in the case of Peter Molyneux, it's all about improvement until the series is perfected and his dream realized.

I'd rather see him make a new Black & White game than just Fable games.

I think he should just stop apologizing at this point and start learning from his mistakes. If the Fable games have constantly disappointed, then find out what it is that went wrong with those games and do everything in your power to prevent those things from happening again. Simple. Apologies from him don't mean much now.

I just think it's his way of damage control. Not that the Fable series has been bad, but since the first, they've just been a constant disappointment. If he really wants to make a game with a vision, he needs to learn how to listen to the fans and then mix that with what he has in mind.

Nice man, underwhelming series. Played the first 2 to completion, wasn't trying for the third.
How Fable made it to 3 installments with a forth coming for Kinect is beyond me. Mediocre is actually being nice, and as much as I hate JRPG's (hate them and their cliched "EVERYTHING" and turn based combat) I'd rather play another JRPG with a shemale protagonist then whatever Pete/Lionshead may be thinking up for the future.

I actually really enjoyed the first two Fable games. And really, I didn't have a problem with the third until it glitched on me during a quest, essentially breaking the game. I rated it a 1.0 and haven't played it since. I don't know that I will, to be honest. I've too little time as it is, especially to be playing games that don't work.

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I respect his humility after the fact, but they need to start learning from these mistakes otherwise I can't see people staying interested much longer. Unfamiliar with the hype of the original Fable, I thought it was a great game. The 2nd I thought was good despite a multitude of shortcomings and the 3rd I couldn't even bring myself to complete. The entire series seems to be getting worse and for inexplicable reasons imo.

I actually really enjoyed the first two Fable games. And really, I didn't have a problem with the third until it glitched on me during a quest, essentially breaking the game. I rated it a 1.0 and haven't played it since. I don't know that I will, to be honest. I've too little time as it is, especially to be playing games that don't work.

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Shame-usBlackley

Oh wow. The game glitched on you? What quest, do you remember? At one point, the game glitched on me too and I had to grit my teeth and start over from scratch. Luckily, the game is way too easy, so it didn't take me long to get back to where I was before, you know?

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I actually really enjoyed the first two Fable games. And really, I didn't have a problem with the third until it glitched on me during a quest, essentially breaking the game. I rated it a 1.0 and haven't played it since. I don't know that I will, to be honest. I've too little time as it is, especially to be playing games that don't work.

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Metamania

Oh wow. The game glitched on you? What quest, do you remember? At one point, the game glitched on me too and I had to grit my teeth and start over from scratch. Luckily, the game is way too easy, so it didn't take me long to get back to where I was before, you know?

I can't remember exactly, but the quest involved multiple stops around the game world, and without the initial step generating, the game would not advance anything. I didn't even really try too hard to find a workaround, though. I was just all "Well, that sucks, guess I'll play something that works."

I may check it out again down the road, but it'll be quite a while.

It's going to be the best game ever you guys!

Fable 1 was okay, but Fable II and III are atrocious, shallow, over-simplified horrors of Action/RPG's.

The man needs to go back to the drawing board and quit bringing that stupid series to the retailers shelves.

All my opinion of course.

I'd rather see him make a new Black & White game than just Fable games.

nameless12345

I agree. Really would want another Black & White.

If he'd just keep his mouth shut during development, he wouldn't have to do this every single time he releases a game.

^^What's that? Looks intriguing. SteelAttack

It was a very unique looking game that would have been so promising... But it was killed off... :(

Here are some Videos... It could have certainly been better than Fable.

Just think how that game could be with current hardware...

I was an epic fanboy for the original Fable when it arrived.

I didn't even get halfway through Fable III before I put it in my pile of shame and, even on quiet, boring days, I'm yet to return to it.

I hardly think an apology is neccessary though...especially when with each one comes the unshakeable feeling that we too should apologise for being so sheepish that we purchased a game that even the creator thought was sub-par.

Way to make me feel stupid, Molyneux! Now, apologise!

I think my main attraction to the Fable series is the potential.

The colorful characters could lead to interesting interactions with the player. However it is devolved to cheesy emotes some of which get really frustrating as the game progressed. At first it was humorous that the princess would life a guy over her head while dancing. By the end of the game all I could think is "Aren't there anymen in this game world that can take the lead?" My princess went solo. None of those pansies are worthy to be her mate.

The colorful characters could lead to memorable romances. It seemed to me that people in this world are a bit overexaggerated. This could lead to fun, comical, and heartwarming relationship options. However, to be able to go from stangers to married in about 20 minutes using stupid emotes is just pathetic. Even without Bioware's romances to compare them to the relationships in Fable are simply lame and forgetable.

To be the king/queen ... oh my. Just think what you could do here. Do I spend money on defensive improvements or research better weapons? Use diplomatic channels to acquire aid for the coming battle from other nations? Can I give Paige and Rever what they want by moving the orphanage out of theindustrial district where it never should have been in the first place? .... Um, no. You can't do any of that at all. National defense is based only on how much money you have in your treasury. I don't know, maybe its magic money that teleports to the pockets of the enemy until they are too weighted down to move. The royal decrees and good or evil. Nothing in between. I thought this game was supposed to have a strong morality bend to it. My bad.

I can see the shadow of something awesome in these games. I keep hoping the next one will bring it to life because a shadow is just not enough.

That's not to say Fable is garbage. It is just not worth $50. Wait for $20 to $25.

[QUOTE="SteelAttack"]^^What's that? Looks intriguing. LORD_BLACKGULT

It was a very unique looking game that would have been so promising... But it was killed off... :(

Here are some Videos... It could have certainly been better than Fable.

Just think how that game could be with current hardware...

Well, atleast he is honest about it.

^^What's that? Looks intriguing. SteelAttack

He should actually go back a make RPG like Fable 1. Fable 3 was a straight up actionadventure game.

Fable 3 was a joke. That was a shallow, sorry excuse for a roleplaying game... even an action game. Its junk. Fable 2 was pretty good. Fable 1 was the best.

"…when I read in the middle of a [Fable III] review that the quality just wasn't good enough, I actually agree with those reviews." - Peter Molyneux

It looks lke the Fable series is destined to be loved and to disappoint at the same time. How can you not love the idea of a funny, quirky action packed world that reshapes itself according to your actions? At the same time, how can you not be disappointed when many of the features promised in the months before release don't make it into the game or are nothing more than barely functional stubs?

It has also become sort of traditional for Peter Molyneux to apologize to Fable fans for the aforementioned missed opportunities:

He did so after Fable:

"If I have mentioned any feature in the past which, for whatever reason, didn't make it as I described into Fable, I apologize. Every feature I have ever talked about WAS in development, but not all made it"

He did so after Fable II:

"Fable II's story was rubbish."

"Let's be honest, [Fable II] had some terribly messy things about it."

Now he apologizes about Fable III:

"Lionhead -- especially me -- has never created projects in less than two years. This was the first time we ever did that,"

"we didn't have the time to craft that into what that dream was."

"…when I read in the middle of a [Fable III] review that the quality just wasn't good enough, I actually agree with those reviews."

To be honest I like the man, despite his many gaffes he's a talented game designer (he gave us Populous, Syndicate, Black & White, Dungeon Keeper and Fable itself after all). It's a pity his vision can never translate to reality the way he wants. If anything he should apologize about that Project Milo farce Microsoft had him come up with two E3 ago to promote the Kinect.

Keep trying Pete, you'll get it 100% right eventually. On second though: 80% right would be good too.

What do you people think, will he eventually make the game he originally envisioned? Is Fable the Journey the fourth time charm? Somehow I doubt this is the case.

Black_Knight_00

i liked the guy, after the first two fables i was like ok, maybe the thir one is gonna be awesome, and then the third fable came... so screw him, all he does is talk bs and never delivers and always apologizes, i dont know if he does it just because he fails as a game designer to actually make things work or is just a damn marketing strategy to see how dumb we are, but after three strikes, you are out, no more fables for me

This guy is one of the most annoying guys in the industry, he always hypes everything and apologizes after the rather medicore game released. I don't care what this idiot has to say >__>