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#301 MetalGear_Ninty
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Bah it looks like danwallacefan has disbanded the atheism union. Its a pity because I really enjoyed arguing over the positions that he defended.domatron23

Well that's interesting -- I wonder why he left?

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#302 domatron23
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[QUOTE="domatron23"]Bah it looks like danwallacefan has disbanded the atheism union. Its a pity because I really enjoyed arguing over the positions that he defended.MetalGear_Ninty

Well that's interesting -- I wonder why he left?

I dunno I thought he was a good member.

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#303 btaylor2404
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Well I'm sad to see danwallacefan go, I've tried to hit up members who've posted in OT religion threads, like the recent 1000 something post one going on this week.  We've really picked up some great users here recently.
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#305 Lansdowne5
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[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] I am an atheist, and have been all my life. Funky_Llama

Even when you were two? :P 

Given that atheism can be defined as lack of belief in God, then yeah.

Hmmm, is it a lack of belief? Or is it a conscious decision 'not' to believe?  

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#306 Lansdowne5
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It hinges on whether it is: a) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or b) a lack of belief in the existence of God.

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#307 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] I am an atheist, and have been all my life. Lansdowne5

Even when you were two? :P 

Given that atheism can be defined as lack of belief in God, then yeah.

Hmmm, is it a lack of belief? Or is it a conscious decision 'not' to believe?  

It is the lack of belief and an inevitable rather than conscious decision, for the atheists. (I suppose)

 

Since the second implies that the atheists are merely stubborn, then I will say that there atheists of that type (meaning the ones who become atheists not out of the process of examining the data in hand - the Bible or other scripture - but out of rebel), but I haven't seen anyone here.

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#308 Funky_Llama
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It hinges on whether it is: a) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or b) a lack of belief in the existence of God.

Lansdowne5
It can be defined as either.
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#309 domatron23
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It hinges on whether it is: a) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or b) a lack of belief in the existence of God.

Lansdowne5

Make a seerate topic about strong/weak atheism if you want to discuss that in depth.

Also what the hell, danwallacefan isn't to be found in the members tab, the atheism union doesn't turn up under the "my unions" tab in his profile yet here he is making topics. I'm confused.

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#310 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

It hinges on whether it is: a) the doctrine or belief that there is no God, or b) a lack of belief in the existence of God.

domatron23

Make a seerate topic about strong/weak atheism if you want to discuss that in depth.

Also what the hell, danwallacefan isn't to be found in the members tab, the atheism union doesn't turn up under the "my unions" tab in his profile yet here he is making topics. I'm confused.

You don't have to be a member to post.

I hadn't join even for the first few months of posting in the union; in fact when I first put myself forward for the Officer election, I wasn't even a member then. :P

Perhaps he was never a member to begin with. :shock:

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#311 domatron23
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You don't have to be a member to post.

MetalGear_Ninty

Well I mst admit that explains an awful lot. My bad.

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#312 natetodamax
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Hey, I just joined. My name is Nathan (I prefered to be called Nate). I'm 14 and currently residing in Maine (sadly). I used to consider myself a Christian, but I spent a lot of looking and studying different theories relating to science and I've decided that an existing God is illogical.

Anyway, I wanted to keep this brief, so yeah.

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#313 Teenaged
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Welcome Nate. I just saw you in OT. Have a good time here.

And, let's not forget... have a good relationship with the dynamic Greek trio and nothing ...bad... will happen to you. :)

Kidding. :P

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#314 btaylor2404
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Welcome Nate, we're glad to have you here.
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#315 natetodamax
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Thanks
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#316 Small-Change
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Hello, everybody!

I'm an atheist from Detroit, Michigan who was raised in a religious environment--church, grace before dinner, and the ten commandments hanging on the wall. I admittedly believed in God, but only until my early teen years. I didn't stop believing out of rebellion, it just didn't seem right and I wasn't too concerned with religion anyway--I didn't know "atheism" even existed. Around the age of 16, I started getting concerned with how religion is impacting our lives. Now, at 24-years-old, atheism is a crucial part of who I am.

Anyway, this union seems pretty cool and I enjoy talking with like-minded people so here I am!

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#317 Sitri_
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Hello, everybody!

I'm an atheist from Detroit, Michigan who was raised in a religious environment--church, grace before dinner, and the ten commandments hanging on the wall. I admittedly believed in God, but only until my early teen years. I didn't stop believing out of rebellion, it just didn't seem right and I wasn't too concerned with religion anyway--I didn't know "atheism" even existed. Around the age of 16, I started getting concerned with how religion is impacting our lives. Now, at 24-years-old, atheism is a crucial part of who I am.

Anyway, this union seems pretty cool and I enjoy talking with like-minded people so here I am!

Small-Change

Welcome.  It is nice to have more like minded people around, some of the non-like minded ones have a nasty habit of reporting us for moderation here.

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#318 helium_flash
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Hello, everybody!

I'm an atheist from Detroit, Michigan who was raised in a religious environment--church, grace before dinner, and the ten commandments hanging on the wall. I admittedly believed in God, but only until my early teen years. I didn't stop believing out of rebellion, it just didn't seem right and I wasn't too concerned with religion anyway--I didn't know "atheism" even existed. Around the age of 16, I started getting concerned with how religion is impacting our lives. Now, at 24-years-old, atheism is a crucial part of who I am.

Anyway, this union seems pretty cool and I enjoy talking with like-minded people so here I am!

Small-Change
I like your enthusiasm. :)
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#319 btaylor2404
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Welcome Small-Change, glad to have you here.
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#320 Teenaged
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Welcome Small-Change! :)

.........hum......yeah, I would be the one you give the 50 dollars for the Atheism Union subscritpion. But for 100 $ you can get an extra.... - - kidding. :P

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#321 subrosian
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I'm subrosian.

I'm not an atheist because I find the absolute rejection of all "god-beings" to be a logical absurdity. However if "atheism" is defined as a rejection of the "religion of the era", then yes, I am ethically and epistemologically opposed to many contemporary religions.

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#322 Teenaged
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Welcome subrosian. :)

That's my opinion on strict atheism too.

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#323 warbmxjohn
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Hello, I figure I would join up considering how much time I waste defending my beliefs on OT... :P
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#324 Teenaged
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Hello, I figure I would join up considering how much time I waste defending my beliefs on OT... :Pwarbmxjohn
Welcome warBMXjohn. :)
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#325 mattykovax
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Hey,any OTers probably know me,for those that do not my name is mattykovax. I was curious to see how things work here,and with Btaylor promoting I decided to join.
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#326 Teenaged
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Welcome Matty. :)
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#327 mattykovax
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Welcome Matty. :)Teenaged
Thanks,glad to be here.
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#328 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Welcome Matty. :)mattykovax
Thanks,glad to be here.

Don't rush to conclusions. Things are not always as they seem. :)

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#329 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Welcome Matty. :)Teenaged

Thanks,glad to be here.

Don't rush to conclusions. Things are not always as they seem. :)

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:P

I don't get it D:
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#330 Teenaged
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I don't get it D:Funky_Llama
He said he is glad. And I meant that he shouldn't be.

Anyway, I am not good at jokes. I know. I promise I'll stop.

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#331 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I don't get it D:Teenaged

He said he is glad.

Why is that a bad thing.......?

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#332 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I don't get it D:mattykovax

He said he is glad.

Why is that a bad thing.......?

I was joking. :( Oh, guys, I said I am bad at jokes.

You said you are glad, implying the you like the AU. And I said that you shouldn't rush to conclusions meaning that maybe the AU is not such a hospitable place after all for newcomers.

It's a bad joke. Sorry. :(

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#333 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I don't get it D:Teenaged

He said he is glad.

Why is that a bad thing.......?

I was joking. :( Oh, guys, I said I am bad at jokes.

You said you are glad, implying the you like the AU. And I said that you shouldn't rush to conclusions meaning that maybe the AU is not such a hospitable place after all for newcomers.

It's a bad joke. Sorry. :(

Dont be sorry.Not at all.
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#334 sheepdk
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Christian, 16. Never been religious. Ever...not so much to say except, I've never gone to church (voluntarily) So have never been indoctrinated into religion. Come from a non-religious family, however I was "Konfirmated" (Only to get presents, if i didn't do it i wouldn't get any presents, so that's why);)
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#335 Teenaged
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Welcome sheepdk. :)

(no jokes this time)

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#336 helium_flash
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Christian, 16. Never been religious. Ever...not so much to say except, I've never gone to church (voluntarily) So have never been indoctrinated into religion. Come from a non-religious family, however I was "Konfirmated" (Only to get presents, if i didn't do it i wouldn't get any presents, so that's why);)sheepdk
Where are you from? And your name is ironic then :P
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#337 btaylor2404
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Welcome matty, warbmxjohn & sheepdk.  I appreciate you all joining, there are members of most and no faiths here, so add in any topic you wish.
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#338 mattykovax
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Welcome matty, warbmxjohn & sheepdk. I appreciate you all joining, there are members of most and no faiths here, so add in any topic you wish.btaylor2404
Oh I will. I pretty much joined because i like talking all this stuff from all sides,but in OT its just two distinct sides with a couple well known posters on each end banging their heads on the opposite sides of the same brick wall. I want to openly discuss,not try to refute and convert.
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#339 DarkNinja08
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Hello all. My name's Rob and I'm from the north of England. I'm an atheist and I have been for a few years now. I was brought up in a semi-religious environment (one parent is religious, the other is indifferent), but I didn't really start to think about it more closely until a few years ago. I started reading around -Richard Dawkins, Chris Hichens etc- and eventually came to the conclusion that most of the beliefs I held didn't hold up under scrutiny. This, along with my predominantly scientific education, subsequently lead to me jumping ship and joining the growing atheist camp.

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

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#340 helium_flash
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That avatar is soooo common.
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#341 Astrapsody
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Hey, my name is Astrapsody (not really) and I'm currently an atheist. I was raised as nothing, my Mom became Christian and the family followed. I had always claimed to be Christian up until about a half a year ago. I have strong beliefs about my nonbelief, but I'll save that for the forums.

By the way, I got here because Teenaged had the link to this union on his sig.

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#342 Teenaged
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Hey, my name is Astrapsody (not really) and I'm currently an atheist. I was raised as nothing, my Mom became Christian and the family followed. I had always claimed to be Christian up until about a half a year ago. I have strong beliefs about my nonbelief, but I'll save that for the forums.

By the way, I got here because Teenaged had the link to this union on his sig.

Astrapsody

Welcome Astrapsody. :P

:P Other members have it in their sig too. :P

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#343 gameguy6700
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Let's see:

As a little kid I went to church every Sunday though as I got older my family started attending less and less and eventually it got to the point where it was very rare when we went and generally we only attended when my mom started feeling guilty about our lack of spiritual activities. That was fine by me though since I never really liked church. I was an ardent believer in Christianity, but I preferred a very hands-off, calm approach to religious worship, a preference which apparently isn't shared by most people.

It was funny in a way. As a kid I really believed in God. I prayed every night and I never used the lord's name in vain, ever. However, I also wasn't very familiar with my religion other than the basics since we had stopped going to church on a regular basis starting when I was 7 years old which was too early for Sunday School to start introducing all the more detailed aspects of the religion. Those I found out slowly as the years went by, and everytime I found out something new I lost some faith because the religion kept getting more and more ridiculous and at the same time kept diverting farther and farther away from the values I thought it stood for. For example, something that struck me early on were seeing some anti-gay protestors on the news (up to that point I had been under the impression that God loved everybody no matter what since that's what you told in Sunday school. I wasn't pleased when I found out that my supposedly all-loving deity wasn't so all-loving after all though I still went along with it). Another big turn-off for me was when some youth group minister told me about how the crazier parts of the Bible had been selectively removed by the Catholic church back in the middle ages. When I asked him how that didn't totally invalidate our religion his answer was an unsatisfying "do you really think God would allow them to throw out valid parts of the Bible?".

The big thing that killed the religion for me was creationism and fundamentalist christianity. Before that I had been able to reconcile my issues with the religion and for awhile I just laughed at fundies for totally misinterpreting the religion. However, after years I started to see the logic behind fundie beliefs. I realized that they were actually right about the religion and that all their insane beliefs were supported by the bible quite explicitly. It occured to me that the religion only seemed sane when you tried to "interpret" the Bible so that you could weasle your way out of all the horrible and downright crazy things that were written in it. That's when I converted to atheism. Christianity was now too illogical to be reconcilable in my head and all the other religions were even more illogical and fantastical than Christianity.

It's really funny to look back over my post history on Gamespot. You can see me go from Christian apologist and a person who thinks atheists are annoying and misguided to weak Christian to agnostic to atheist over the course of five years.

Anyway, that's my story in short.

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#344 Teenaged
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Welcome gameguy. :) That was an interesting "journey" you had.
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#345 helium_flash
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We've gotten a bunch of new members recently but it seems like none of them are contributing.
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#346 Teenaged
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We've gotten a bunch of new members recently but it seems like none of them are contributing.helium_flash
Maybe they are shy. :P

Maybe they need time to feel comfortable who knows.

Anyway to all new members: you don't need to contribute in any specific way, you can just voice your opinion about anything that is being discussed, you can get involved into conversations, and say what you think. :)

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#347 helium_flash
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]We've gotten a bunch of new members recently but it seems like none of them are contributing.Teenaged

Maybe they are shy. :P

Maybe they need time to feel comfortable who knows.

Anyway to all new members: you don't need to contribute in any specific way, you can just voice your opinion about anything that is being discussed, you can get involved into conversations, and say what you think. :)

Yeah you can be like Teenaged where you kill topics by writing huge paragraphs in them and then no one knows what to say afterwards! (joking :P)

Or you can be like me where you don't contribute in any way whatsoever.

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#348 Teenaged
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Yeah you can be like Teenaged where you kill topics by writing huge paragraphs in them and then no one knows what to say afterwards! (joking :P)

Or you can be like me where you don't contribute in any way whatsoever.

helium_flash

I already apologized for them. :(

If you want I can do that in every thread!

yezzzz

No I am joking. It's hard for me too sometimes. :P

EDIT: Anywayz I am very proud of those posts but ashamed at the same time because I don't like going at lengths in analyzing what's on my mind. It's that mixture of low self-esteem and doubt. :P

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#349 Forerunner-117
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Welcome guys. :D
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#350 helium_flash
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Yeah you can be like Teenaged where you kill topics by writing huge paragraphs in them and then no one knows what to say afterwards! (joking :P)

Or you can be like me where you don't contribute in any way whatsoever.

Teenaged

I already apologized for them. :(

If you want I can do that in every thread!

 

yezzzz

No I am joking. It's hard for me too sometimes. :P

EDIT: Anywayz I am very proud of those posts but ashamed at the same time because I don't like going at lengths in analyzing what's on my mind. It's that mixture of low self-esteem and doubt. :P

You posts are interesting though and you make good points. I'm sure there are some people who read the entire thing. I do if I find the topic interesting duh