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#1 slingshot_ylo
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Sean Baby to AVGN probably felt fresh because it Sean Baby does text articles and AVGN does videos, so it's enough of a jump that people don't make any connection.

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For me, it wasn't the difference in the media that they used that made it feel fresh. It was the content. I can read Seanbaby's articles then watch AVGN's videos and, even though they're about the same subject, get a unique and enjoyable experience from both. It's not because I "read" one and "watched" another, but because the content and its presentation in each is distinctive enough to set it apart from the other. Yes, it has been two years since the articles in question first appeared, and for all practical purposes, this should be a dead issue. However, the passage of time does not make it any less wrong than when it was first perpetrated. I have watched the videos IG has done since then on the other games and systems, including his NEO reviews, but he still has yet to really set his character apart from AVGN's. He relies too heavily on special effects, his shows are poorly scripted, filled with glaring errors (and that's not saying AVGN is perfect, btw), and the acting just does not engage me at all. I've watched all of his videos at least once, but I'm usually one and done with them. There's nothing in them that makes me want to see them again. I've watched many of AVGN's videos multiple times because I just think that it's higher quality entertainment. All of this is completely subjective though. One of those 'different stroke for different folks' situations, I suppose.

Of course some people believe the "Angry gamer swearing" thing is copyright the AVGN, but those people are silly.

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I couldn't agree with you more there. No one person can claim the copyright to being an angry, foul-mouthed gamer. How many of them do you think there are on just this site alone ; )There's plenty of room in the world for all the Angry, Irate, Irritated, PO'd, Acrimonious, etc. gamers out there, but if you're going to make a show out of it, don't do exactly what the last guy did, do something unique. Do something better.

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I do believe Irate gamer stole abit from the back to the future review. I think he even admitted it at some point. However it was his first review and really, I can cut him some slack for doing it when he's just getting his feet on the ground.

Also apparently if the AVGN does a review of a game, no one else can review it, but if irate gamer does one, AVGN can review it too, as with the case of Indiana Jones and the temple of doom. Irate gamer reviewed it first, AVGN reviewed it like a year later and mentioned some things very similar to what the Irate Gamer mentioned. Do I think AVGN stole it? No, because some things in a game are so glaringly bad that if you review it you HAVE to talk about it.

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I don't see any problem with more than one person reviewing the same game and pointing out the same obvious shortcomings. That's where the fanboy protectionism you mentioned comes into play and things get ugly. However, it gets stale when you simply regurgitate the same information and dialogue that someone else has already done and don't add anything new to it. That's the case with the Back to the Future and TMNT reviews.

Even if they were some of his first reviews, there was still plenty of fresh, untouched material there to work with that he could have used to make a thoughtful, entertaining video. I think your comparison of AVGN to Seanbaby is a pretty good example of that. Yes, they both talked about the Wally Bear and naughty Atari games and poised some of the same points, but AVGN's was different enough to still be entertaining without seeming like a summarization or paraphrasing of Seanbaby's articles. However, IG just parroted back a majority of the exact same points and phrases that AVGN had used. There's no rule against that of course, but he shouldn't seem indignant when someone points that out to him.

Again, nothing wrong with multiple people reviewing the same game and pointing out the same flaws, but IG might have faired better if he had his own unique voice and persona rather than a facsimile of someone else's IMO.

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#3 slingshot_ylo
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Yes I know he hacked the AVGN with Ghostbusters as if he never existed...

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He did the same thing with his Back to Future review, which was basically a word-for-word copy of AVGN's, and that's what I think is the problem most people have with the Irate Gamer: he's an imitator. He basically copied AVGN's character and format for his show and then claimed to be an original. Even his name is a spinoff of AVGN's (Irate:Angry). He still has yet to claim publicly that he was the least bit inspired by AVGN or any of the other reviewers that were on YouTube long before him, though he obviously 'borrowed' some of their ideas and material. There's no law (per YouTube's standards) that says he has to do that nor is there a law that says you have to watch either, both, or neither, but people realized what he was doing and called him out on it.

I've watched them both and I think IG's material is boring and derivative by comparison. AVGN's show is much more comical and creative. Plus, his reviews are more academic than those by IG. And yes, his acting is much better. IG has some nice effects in his videos, but anyone with enough time and patience with Sony Vegas, FinalCut, or even iMovie can create similar effects. Just because you can make a giant turd fall from the sky doesn't mean that your video is entertaining or even worth watching.

That's it in a nutshell: IG was called out for blatantly plagiarizing someone else's material (on more than one occasion) and refuses to publicly acknowledge it. Yes, he has some 'neat-o' effects in his videos but they can't hide his lack of original,quality content. IMHO, that is.

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I absolutely love music from the final battle in Mega Man 4.

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I'd take either a sit-down San Francisco Rush or Hydro Thunder Machine

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#6 slingshot_ylo
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Do I think it is fair? Hmmm...

I don't think a fair/unfair label really works for it as a whole. That really comes down to a case-by-case by basis. There are some things that are absolute that I agree with, like insults for example. I don't see any reason to call another user an idiot or anything of that nature. Any time you do this you're going to provoke a negative response. Think about it: when somebody insults you, do you NOT say something back, usually with a little, um, pepper added to it? If you disagree with someone's opinion, remember it's just their opinion. If you can provide a better argument that tactfully exposes the flaws in their logic, then do it. If they refuse to see it your way or get combative: Let it Go.

However, when it comes to things that are less black and white, I have to wonder: Do mods consult with each other on whether or not something is a violation, or is it solely left to one mod's discretion to make the call?

For example, if someone reports an "offensive" post that is really borderline does a mod ask for another mod's or mods' opinions on it? Let's say the post was well-intentioned good humor in a charged topic. The post wasn't vulgar and didn't target any single poster in particular or group of posters as a whole. The person who reported it simply misinterpreted it or didn't see the context of the conversation that it was posted in to. How is a situation like this handled? Decision by committee or rule of one?

Overall, it's not bad. I've seen worse. It's nice to have a place where you can have an actual discussion with a low level of obnoxiousness.

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[Hmm tempting. Only reason I wanted to use a PS2 to play my PS1 games was because I have PS1 memory cards-and none of my friends have a PS3-only PS2s-and I just wanted to be able to take saves around with me easily. The PS1 games I wanna play anyways have issues with the later PS2 slims and the PS3s....

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You could get a memory card adapter. Check Amazon or ebay. They're definitely worth the price ($20-$30).
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Yeah I remember them, beat'em both too! Faxanadu is still one of my favorite games of all time. The jumping frustrated me to no end at times but not as much as the monstrous password, excuse me, MANTRA, that you had to enter to continue your game! Still, I remember being blown away the first time I got to the Evil Place! Great game, wish we could get a sequel to it!

Legacy of the Wizard was confusing as heck until I figured out the routes you had to take for each character.

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#9 slingshot_ylo
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slingshot-I never said that the firing of Bernie Stolar is what mainly killed the Dreamcast.Iam just curious how major was Sega's firing of him a permanent blow to the chances of Dreamcast succeeding in the market.

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Okay, after re-reading my post, that first sentence could have been worded a little better. The point I was trying to make was that, in the grand scheme of things, I think his firing had a minimal impact on the DC's death. He did do some good things to push the system when it was first released, but Sega had too much history and an unreliable reputation to overcome. I think that perception of Sega, along with the hype surrounding the PS2, is what ultimately led to it's failure.

The perception and the hype: Why would anybody want to throwdown $200 for this system now when the company who makes it will probably kill it in a year so. Why not save your money and wait till next year's release of the 'newer, better, more powerful system' whose manufacturer has a better track record from the last console generation.

Sorry for any confusion.

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#10 slingshot_ylo
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For me, nothing beats the original series on the NES.

Mega Man X would be second (up until X6, X8 was okay though).

I don't really care for the newer ones. It just feels like they've gotten farther and farther away from what made the original ones so much fun.