I feel pretty dumb. I used to say that the Wii-U is a garbage with gimmicks and now I'm interested in it? WTF is wrong with me? :|

GamerwillzPS

When we know this little about a product, it is perfectly acceptable to change opinions on where you stand. Unfortunately because this is the internet, if you say one positive thing about a company you're immediately labeled as playing for "their team".

I feel the same way though. I thought the WiiU launch trailer was ok but not great but now I'm more hyped about the console. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind again... and there's nothing wrong with that.

On a serious note, I think it'll be a moderate upgrade compared to 360 and PS3 and a quite large leap compared to Wii. Altho I'm not keeping out the possibility of a surprisingly powerful system.

nameless12345

same here but we'll have to wait and see. Also I don't think the controller is as gimmicky as people present it. If it's used well, Nintendo's "appeal to both hardcore and casual" plan might work...

Does anyone expect developers who are investing in any platform to speak negatively about it? We'll find out if wii-u is next gen or just a stop gap in 10 or so days.MFDOOM1983

Well they could re-direct the conversation to something else but flat-out stating something is arguably something worth paying attention to. But like you said, we'll find out. I'm not holding my breath or anything...

article: http://mynintendonews.com/2012/05/25/wii-u-is-a-powerful-powerful-machine/

There've been other developers saying this (and others saying the opposite) but what I find interesting about the article is how quiet Nintendo wants people to be about the specs. I still stand by my original conclusion to wait till E3

Anyone who says that this game sucks simply because of its similarities with Brawl is stupid. However, I hope some are not naive enough to think that people should introduce the game without even addressing the enormous mario-shaped elephant in the room (the similarities between the two games seem more than just genre-based). Again though, saying the game sucks because of it is just as naive

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[QUOTE="SkinnyJeans1995"]

Why create these threads without trying to control them? I would absolutely love to have a normal, logical, intelligent discussion with people about these things, but when you have tards saying ignorant things like "3DS will always be better than Vita, no explanation needed" that is impossible. I won't give my opinion because with these people, it'll devolve into a flame war

SkinnyJeans1995

or you could just ignore those people and respond/talk to the people that actually say something...

The hardware behind is impressive. Is it as impressive as the Vita? Hell no, but as a handheld, it is still not weak. Resident Evil:Revelations and Super Mario 3D Land look great and would not look out of place on the Vita minus the resolution. The battery is atrocious. 3-5 hours.Why? Just why? Nintendo has always had a history with handhelds of releasing purposely inferior hardware to cut down on cost and save battery life, and yet they change their strategy all of a sudden that they've had since the game&watch days. Very uncharacteristic of Nintendo.

The circle pad is very comfortable and more precise than the PSVita's analog sticks, though of course Nintendo dropped the ball on not including one. I also really love the clamshell design that makes it perfect to put in your pocket and not risk damaging any inputs or scratching or smudging the screen. The 3D effect is mostly useless, with only 2 games, Super Mario 3D Land and Kid Icarus:Uprising, actually benefitting from the 3D. Otherwise, the 3D is an effect that I will turn on just to see then turn off for the remainder of the game due to the fact that the 3D makes aliasing much worse in most games and the sweet spot is often times not worth it unless the game actually benefits gameplay wise from the 3D.

The online still needs some work. They stepped it up with universal friend codes, but it still is a 12 digit code and the messaging system is flawed. You can only set a very short comment that appears above your name. Wonderful. Then just a while ago, an app was released that allows for true messaging, but it is also flawed because it is an app; not a unified messaging system. You must quit a game to message and it takes hours to receive the notifications sometimes. It is an archaic system. You must also write with stylus so be prepared for incomprehensible handwriting from some.

The eShop is surprisingly robust considering it's nintendo and their online services, especially on handhelds have been lacking. Overall, the 3DS is a great handheld with an excellent circle pad, and a library of games that is far greater and larger than people lead you to believe because all they ever mention are the "big" games. My favorite 3DS games are Ghost Recon:Shadow Wars, Dead or Alive Dimensions(Doa is my favorite handheld fighter ever), and Super Mario 3D Land.

Moving onto the PSVita, I was immediately disappointed with the battery life just as I was with the 3DS. It's equally as bad, unless you count multimedia functions such as music listening, which I don't do on dedicated gaming handhelds. The analogue sticks are not as precise as the circle pad, but the extra analog stick over the 3DS' single circle pad is an advantage. The D-pad I like more than the 3DS as well.

The hardware is very powerful, no doubt, but the web browser is disappointing because with such powerful hardware, you would expect a good browser. No. It is even worse than the 3DS browser. On the 3DS you can at least use the browser in-game, which you can't do on the Vita. The biggest advantage is the online service with its unified messaging system, friends list, and trophy system. It is basically PS3's PSN in terms of features and such, but with a different UI.

The nicest addition to the Vita is party chat for up to 8 players. It works extremely well, The built in mic picks up your voice very well and most games should not overpower the sound of people in the party talking. The library of games is also better than people say. Just like my stance on ports for the 3DS, it doesn't matter as long as it is close enough, identical, or better than the original version because the inherent advantage of taking them anywhere you go is a hug plus over any other console game.

I have 16 PSVita games, and of those the worthwhile games are Army Corps of Hell, BlazBlue:Continuum Shift Extend, Hot Shots Golf:World Invitational, Lumines Electronic Symphony, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus, Rayman Origins, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Virtua Tennis 4, and Wipeout 2048. My favorite Vita games are Rayman Origins, Lumines, and Virtua Tennis 4.(Uncharted:Golden Abyss was a major disappointment) The PSN store is the same kind of thing you would expect from Sony with the PS3.

Overall, the Vita is another great handheld with excellent hardware and lineup of games that gamers just overlook. I like the PSVita more overall, but I have been playing my 3DS more lately because of Mario Kart 7 and I have been craving racing games lately, but own none on the Vita, so I play Mario Kart 7 a lot.

Fun Fact 1-My Most played game on either is Dead or Alive Dimensions with a total playtime of 77 hours 26 minutes

Fun Fact 2-I adore the activity log feature of the 3DS that tracks how long you play games and how many times you have played them, along with your average time played per session. I want the Vita to have a feature similar to this

Fun Fact 3-Both have **** cameras. Don't bother. Piss poor quality

I wish I could just copy/paste your post and use it in every single handheld war out there. Most of your points are exactly how I feel when comparing the two devices. Having said that, I do prefer the 3DS more just because so far I've had far better gaming experiences on it (I haven't played some of the 3DS and Vita games you mentioned but I've played many of them).

The Vita does have the potential to surpass the 3DS but as of now, the only Vita games that I actually enjoyed was Rayman Origins and Marvvel vs. Capcom (Uncharted was indeed disappointing.). Also, I am really surprised with how much I prefer the 3DS controls over the Vita (despite the fact that I think that only one circle pad was an incredibly stupid move on Nintendo's part).

Obviously the Vita is better than 3DS in every regard, including games. I'm not saying the 3DS is trash, but come on, all it has for games is a couple of Mario titles and a Resident Evil game and a small selection of worthy 3rd party games and e-store games. Videodogg

plus Kid Icarus, plus 5 great remakes (Cave Story, Ocarina of Time, Street Fighter, Metal Gear, Star Fox), plus a bunch of promising, upcoming 1st party games and 3 or 4 3rd party ones (Epic Mickey 2, Heroes of Ruin, Kingdom Hearts and Rayman Origins).

Why create these threads without trying to control them? I would absolutely love to have a normal, logical, intelligent discussion with people about these things, but when you have tards saying ignorant things like "3DS will always be better than Vita, no explanation needed" that is impossible. I won't give my opinion because with these people, it'll devolve into a flame war

SkinnyJeans1995

or you could just ignore those people and respond/talk to the people that actually say something...

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I was dissapointed by the Vita even when i first saw it on the internet..it look JUST like my old PSP with better Graphics!NO PS3 Graphics at all..just compare Uncharted on ps3 with vita...

on the other hand i was impressed with 3ds's ability to bring us 3d with NO glasses on the go!! when i saw it upclose it was DOPE! Unlike anything i have ever seen on a console before!

Guess its the 1st impression always that counts..and thats why i got me a 3ds :P

BigBoss255

Calling the Vita's analogue sticks precise is quite a stretch. I don't own a Vita or a 3ds but my roommate owns both so I basically use both of them pretty much every day. In general, analogue sticks are more precise than circle-pads BUT the 3DSs circlepad is far more comfortable and easier to use than the tiny, plasticy analogue sticks on the Vita. Having said that the 3DS should have had two circle pads instead of one...