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@nikon133: I think PS4 is where I'm leaning. Unfortunately, LoZ hasn't been enough of a draw for me which means I haven't played one of those game since Twilight Princess.

PS4 exclusives look too awesome, especially God of War.

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@nikon133:I can understand its appeal especially to someone like yourself. Maybe I'm just a cheapskate lol. I've always been on the look for "value". Something that's multi-faceted in it's abilities and perhaps that's just the disconnect between myself and Nintendo.

It's the same reason I got into PC games. Big initial investment, long-term cost savings, incredible flexibility and utility. I guess I already don't have time to game any more than I do now. The idea of spending $400 on a specialty gaming console seems silly.

I definitely agree with taking a wait and see approach. Quick side question. Which would you get if you were me: PS4 or Switch?

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@nikon133: Sure but I don't think that can be the answer for Nintendo without them going the way of Sega. I just don't understand why Nintendo can't do both? Wouldn't that get more consoles out "in the wild"? Is a PS4 or XB1 any less kid friendly than a Switch? At that point the power is in the parents hands to make sure their children are playing titles appropriate for their age.

Nintendo fans have said to me "If you want AAA FPS, sports games and blah blah blah then play it on your PS4 and XBONE. If you want gameplay then you get a Switch."

Take me for instance. I game on PC. I don't have any current-gen consoles. What's my incentive to buy a Switch? Say I like each consoles exclusives equally. Why would I get a Switch over a PS4 or XB1? At this point I'm leaning towards getting a PS4, tbh and I haven't owned a Sony system since the PS1.

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@ranbla: I'm assuming you're a Nintendo fan based on your past support. It's really heartening to see that you're able to remove your love for Nintendo from making a financial decision to support them.

Hopefully, more Nintendo fans will do the same and force them to change. I really think a great majority of Nintendo supporters do them a disservice by making them feel like they're vision is still financially viable in today's gaming industry.

I'd love to buy a Nintendo console again. I just don't have a reason to.

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@nikon133: The only problem I have is your second point. How many people are going to buy the Switch without owning another console whether it be PC, PS4, XB1? I mean how many consumers are going to be purchasing their first console of this generation and the console they choose be the Switch?

Not the majority, right? I think it's safe to assume that would be the case if we think logically. That right there eliminates this cost-saving theory you're claiming. Most people already have a console or gaming system. People that don't, at this point, aren't getting a Switch unless it's one of the incredibly small subsets of the market a.k.a consumers who only own a WiiU. How many of those people do you know? Me, I know 0 people that only have one current-gen console that happens to be a WiiU.

Basically, the Switch is going to relive the same life the WiiU has already lived. The Nintendo exclusives will be great games that only Nintendo fans will be exposed to which is a shame. Lack of third-party support (despite all the flowery things we heard months ago from devs) will again be the deciding factor in a market represented by consumers who want a steady, if not constant, supply of games. Nintendo simply cannot keep up with that kind of demand when it comes to pumping out 1st party titles which, according to most people I've heard defending this system, is the only reason people are buying it in the first place.

Hope I'm wrong.

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@doctor_mg: It's hard to communicate fully via text. Appreciate the conversation. I too hope your investment pays off (no tongue in cheek). The marketplace is better when Nintendo is successful, as well.

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@doctor_mg: I never made that argument. I was only saying that thinking that to be an "authentic gamer" one has to buy a Switch is asinine which is what @chasedurer implied. Also, I never said anything about "yearly" titles. I only said that Nintendo releases rehashes all the time that are no more creative or different than some CoD games (which I haven't actually played since WaW).

My point is that it's going to be difficult to persuade people to purchase this console from a value basis. Hope it works out and is successful but so far I'm skeptical.

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@chasedurer: Not sure wtf an "authentic gamer" is, really. I know I play games. I don't get caught up in whether they're AAA games or not tbh.

The only thing that really makes a difference to me when I make a decision to purchase something is value. In fact, value is something many consumer take in to consideration when making a purchase.

The value doesn't seem to be there in regards to the Switch. That's something I think Nintendo needs to address in order to be successful this time around.

JMO

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@gameroutlawzz: Unfortunately for Nintendo they aren't just selling to you. It appeared their strategy with the WiiU was to sell to gamers like yourself and we all know how that turned out... terrible sales that didn't come close to expectations.

You can act like this shit doesn't matter, hopefully Nintendo figures out that it does.

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@doctor_mg: In today's marketplace, the only system that isn't fully featured is Nintendo's console. Defend that as you will. I don't think that's a smart strategy on Nintendo's part and certainly don't find it to be a strength.

I want Nintendo to succeed. I don't think their strategy will work or ensure their success heading into the future and that's too bad.