Consider this 'beta' as a multiplayer showing. Yes, it's incomplete, but anyone who has played in a TRUE 'beta' will tell you that this is closer to a demo than anything.

And it's not like they really need to market it too hard. People will just buy it because it's Halo, it's that simple. I don't know what the PS3 has coming in between now and September, but this seems like an attempt to steal potential fence sitters who are waiting for a killer ap on either system, most of which usually come in the November period.

_Stuff_

lmao just the topic of this post should tell everyone this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.  MS has well over 100 titles (alot of them decent, about 10% AAA titles) in their pocket so far.  Their biggest titles have not even hit yet (Halo 3, Bioshock, Fable 2) and I could go on and on and on.  Sony had very little on the market and anybody that dis Nintendo is just down right stupid.  Look how many console Nintendo has sold - they know their market and they always hit it.

 People should stop giving this guy attention and making him feel important - then we wouldn't get dumb posts like this.

(double post sorry)

solid1210

 Nice head shot!

MS knows that people think $180 is too expensive.  It has been all over the internet.  Major Nelson even discussed the price on his podcast.

Petitions are so stupid.  Why is it that suddenly everyone and their mother is starting petitions for everything and anything?

b11051973

 I think they are doing this or the movement has started because of the people that have done it and have actually gotten results...  Who knows!?

Well they wont have a lack of sales because if people really want it they wont care how much it cost. That just means they have to work a little harder to get it. Also no one ever said he (?) was wrong for standing up for what (he?) thinks is right. That's a good thing, but it's like I said there are more important things he could do. Like tell Bush to bring home the troops. RandellG

 That is a matter of opinion on what one deems more important.  Personally, I think we need to stay over there clean up as much as we can and then come home - instead of repeating history, go over there, hang out a bit, spend a bunch of money, and then come back and wait 10 years for it to all blow up again.  Who knows maybe it was all a internal job, or maybe it wasn't.  Maybe the Mayans are right and something major with happen in DEC of 2012.  We've all heard "history repeats its self", "what comes around goes around", and "if we don't learn from our past we are bound to repeat it again", but I say conflict is a natural part of us as a species - we will never be able to live in complete peace - never.  Ok so that was rather random and off topic, but oh well - these boards always seem to tie into politics and meaning of life type of stuff anyway.

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[QUOTE="RandellG"][QUOTE="mraltoid19"]They are both overpriced, my friend. Personally I believe that MS should just phase out the 20gb drive and make the 120gb, standard. Look at the memory cards, the 64mb one is 39.99 while the 512mb one is 49.99, only a $10 difference for 8 times the space. If MS treated the memcards the same way they treated the HD then the 512mb card should cost about $80, not $50.  Best case would be to lower the price of both the 120gb to $120 and the 20gb to $80.RandellG

 Man you need to lighten up.  He is right the price for both hard drives and the 64MB memory card is just highway robbery.  Some people on here have argued the point that an external drive cost more than an internal, which is true; however the there are 500GB external drives that sell for around $200 now days.  Ok - so those standard size hard drives, not the hard drive you find in a laptop or the 360.  Still the point is simple to make that they are very over priced and while I see where you are coming from about getting a job and paying for it - it will not make me change my mind on WAITING until the price is reasonable.  PERIOD

 P.S.  remember these could be 10 year old kids you are writing these posts to and you are not setting a very good example by telling them to "steal one", "shut up", and so on.

 lol  That seems to be a way of life for Walmarts across the Nation.  The one up the street has TVs walk out all the time...  wow  Well anyway man - yeah if it is a kid - they should be at school.  lol

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My friends, just remember.

 

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned.When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

Mark Twain

 

KoRnitup

 "Getalife"  Come on people if no one stood up for things they saw as wrong - where would the world be?  We already allow way to many things in the world today, just because most of us are sheep and go with the flow.  This dude is standing up for something he believes in - so stop bashing it.  Now, I agree Microsoft is a business and out to make money and that is all fine and great.  If I ran a company I would want to create a Monoply and make as much money as I could.  I don't hold that against MS.  The consumers are the ones that are ignorant.  They go out and buy a 360 Elite when they already have a premium (which IMO looks better).  I need and want the bigger hard drive and will wait till the price drops.  I don't want an Elite and unless the color changes or they make a new and improved one.  Blah blah blah - I have to stop wasting time at work reading these posts now and go to lunch.  Anyway, regardless of what you people say $180 for 120GB of space is not a good deal, but compared to $99 for 20GB of space it is.  Perhaps those of you that see this as a good deal have been influenced by this???

 P.S.  I seriously doubt the petition will reduce the price - only time and lack of sales will affect the price.