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@thenephariouson

Then would it not be reasonable that as a "gold member" we not have to have their advertising inflicted on us? I think that's a reasonable trade off. The premiums of the service are dwindling compared to alternatives and you can be sure Sony (if it survives) will not make the same mistake about chat functionality in the future.

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@Big_Phil_Evans

Seriously? He has a point in that there is really only one or two services that Microsoft offer that Sony doesn't those being invitations and chat functionality. Everything else is free and as others have pointed out even the free games from the PS+ service makes it superior. I'm a multi-console household and have an Xbox Gold account but it's a totally valid point.

There was a time when they needed to charge this because it was unexplored territory but now with the add revenue and revenue streams from the multiple services they have MS is taking advantage (if for example with my Gold membership I didn't have to see any adverts on any of my platforms that would be a different story but it's not the case). Further I suggest you look up hyperbole, because of it you are undermining your argument and if you're not using hyperbole ratcheting up your argument with an issuance of a call to violence you have some serious issues.

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@B0ne3ater @FrozenLiquid

Postmodernisim, look it up. Using the analogy of music, there are a variety of experimental forms of music that do that very thing. Hell even Jazz is a perfect example. Yes there are rules to art, but there are also exceptions to rules, that's why things like Cubisim, Modernisim, Abstractionisim, Impresionisim all came to be. Are you saying Van Gogh isn't an artist? Are you saying Herbie Hancock or Kraftwerk aren't artists?

Language changes and the language of art has changed drastically over the centuries. Artistic expresion historicaly was simple ways of communicating thought ranging from stories around a campfire to the "Glorification of god" or the "Divine" in theatre and visual arts. The reality is art has ALWAYS been subjective, there are people who try and label and restrict artistic expression but there has always been and will always be push back on that. In theatre that's how you get things like black box theatre, theatre in the Alley, or "Art Bombing." In music that's how you get experimental music going back to the works of Mozart and even far before. And that's how you get techniques in acting like Stanaslovski's Method. You may not like it, but Art is subjective. The rules are nothing but the definitions of a genre not the qualifiers of an art form.

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@B0ne3ater @RossRichard

And here's where I disagree, Sinclair was making the point that they (designers) shouldn't be beholden to change their works simply because of the complaints of players. That they should push back and stick to their guns, not that they are above reproach or immune to criticisim (that'd put him out of a job.) Saying that the "Art" debate is undermining that is untrue given that very few people understand what art is or how to appreciate it. Commerce and art are intertwined hand in hand and have been since the patrons of Italy and even long before that.

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@armydominican69 @hlmcpherson

It's the defining momentum in Television and Film as art. You don't like a product you don't buy subsequent products from said producer. It's not nonesense it's just the way of the free market world. Don't buy the DLC, don't keep playing it, don't buy subsequent releases and this punishes the company who can then see "this is what succeeded let's try and build to that" or alternately they can continue producing what they have and cater to a different audience.

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Actually, yes. I've done work doing sketch and drama. Primarily I'm a writer and I have been a musician in the past for a rockabilly band. Mostly I wrote comedy for a sketch troupe for about 5 years but I also worked doing sound engineering as well as DJing and produced a play my friend wrote for the local Fringe festival. My family is heavily involved in the arts (dance, music, theatre, and visual) and I studied film with a minor in digital arts (ie. VIDEOGAMES) in university.

The fact is your not agreeing is not the problem, the fact is you are obnoxious about it which is another "Western" trait. The reality is everyone has an opinion and EVERYONE is entitled to disagree. The reality is you are calling people stupid and just generally condescending. That is what calls in to question the legitimacy of your opinion. There has in the last 30 to 40 years been a progressive degredation in the tone of conversation in western countries. This trend has been higlighted by the anonymity of the internet and honed to a fine edge on the forums of the world.

You are entirely entitled to have your opinion and disagree with the author but that also means you should do so in a civil and constructive way. If you are unable to do so you are simply seeking confrontation which deligitimizes your opinion.

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@B0ne3ater @FrozenLiquid

BTW I was the sound guy on that production of No Exit. It was literal hell working the board keeping the levels from either drowning out the actors who had no microphones and I was require to do sound effects throughout. Emo Punk Bands do not make for fun background noice when trying to do sound for a play.

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I'm sorry but you are wrong. The fact is there are a lot of gamers who want artisticaly driven work I don't have exact numbers but the fact that this article even happened is proof of that.

Second you don't like it, fine, I go to a production of I don't know, No Exit in a punk club with an all ages show roaring beneath me. I can bearly hear the actors, the lighting sucks and the sound is muffled. The director did this in purpose to highlight the chaos beyond the door. Do I like it, no, do I think it's an interesting take, maybe, do I demand changes? No, why? Because it's not my vision. I know in future I will not go to opening night of this director's work until I get a review. So no, buying something else will not change what you've already done (buy the product) and I'm certainly not saying you can't complain but I'm saying the industry should start pushing back, if they feel there is a valid reason then they should say so and stop giving in.

Art is subjective, you're not the only artist here. I come from a family chock a block with them. Visual artists, musicians, performance artists, actors, none of us see eye to eye on art because it's a 100% subjective medium. A cousin in Debbie Does Dallas the Musical has as much artistic integrity as a brother who's a graphic artist or a sister who's a musician. So while you may not like it, it doesn't mean it's not art.

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