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@redskins26rocs Sign me in. Fallout MMORPG, done properly mind, sounds rather cool.

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@blackbean7 @FlameBoyBen Exactly. Your company isn't yours anymore so to speak.

I'm sure there are certain clauses in the contract that prevent some things, but in general, you are not in control anymore.

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@blackbean7 This is true. I think it will eventually come back with vengeance. It already has partially, but I do think that EA is, like you said, trying to push products out like no tomorrow.

Deadlines are good to certain extent, but I agree, just a little while longer would make most average, bug-ridden games, so much better. And make the overall profits higher, because people are more likely to come back, if they've had a positive experience.

Mind, you can go completely overboard with time as well, a la Diablo 3, and still come up with a product that is not finished, has dozens of bugs and flaws, and still isn't, even after all this time, the product that was promised before the launch.

So where does the middle road go, I don't really know. I suppose it is individual to every game. Some need more time, some not so much.

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@LJLuz I have no problem with that thinking, and not with people who want to spend their money on this either. Up to everyone themselves how they want to "waste" their money.

What I don't like is people trying to justify the price of this expansion with some ridiculous excuses. Or "do your research" comments. This is not for you LJLuz, but saying that (about research), I can also say, I know exactly how it goes and I don't like it.

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@blackbean7 @S4E @FlameBoyBen I see what you mean, but essentially the choice is still there. I think it is greed, not from EAs' side on this, but from others that go with them.

It is shortsighted I suppose, but when you can potentially get "millions", especially bonuses for the top people, you forget the creative side and so on, when making the decision to start the co-op.

Why don't the smaller ones stop? Surely they know EAs' business practices by now.

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@blackbean7 @FlameBoyBen It does work both ways mind. Not saying EA is without a fault, but Bioware like everyone else have made their choice, based on, most likely, financial gains.

They chose to "ally" with EA, nobody forced them to do that. It probably worked in a way, but on the other hand, you will give away some of freedom by doing this and everyone knows that fully, before committing.

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@Divad222 @S4E @TheOnlyConan I agree there. And I doubt that they would bring out a competing one anyway, just worries me a bit to be honest.

I would like a proper single player game (or trilogy or whatever they might bring out) with great story. Graphic-wise it will most likely be awesome anyway, but the story is all that matters. A game with strong RPG elements and immersion; that would be great.

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@Slash_out If they haven't indeed started it yet, it will be quite a few years before we see anything. Especially if and when they develop for all the platforms at the same time. PC and next-gen consoles, and who knows maybe even tablets, to a certain degree anyway.

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@TheOnlyConan Open world sounds quite cool, but it could really be anything as it stands at the moment.

I'm quite excited about a new ME game, but not getting my hopes up just yet. You know, it could even be an MMORPG, which was mentioned a while back.

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@bonzibuddyxxx ... speaking of sheeps :D

I guess you are referring to yourself with that 5 year remark, because to me you sound exactly like these people that make the industry go this way? And the part about ignorance fits you quite well as well.

Blizzard splits SC2 in three parts and sells all of them as full priced games, clever business strategy no doubt, when people like you happily pay :)

Blizzard is laughing all the way to the bank.