Why call it "bacon" when we can call it what it is "dead pigs". But I guess we had to be taught how to be desensitized to all that.

Yes, let's talk about the ways of cooking dead pigs that were castrated, abused and slaughtered for our own debauchery.

What an interesting subject indeed.

I pass on the whole networking thing

I just make atheist videos on youtube

Me likey

but I will be getting my over clocked EVGA GTX 590 in a couple of months.

One of the main things that a good video game does is suspend our disbelief, even if some things might seem pretty whacky and far out. But with RAGE, I couldn't get over how ridiculous the idea of these huge canyons and mesas in the backdrop of the vacant "Dead City" , with skyscrapers still standing totally intact. If those canyons were the result of the asteroid impact, the Dead City would have been nearly vaporized and all nearby buildings completely flattened to the ground. And there wouldn't be any mesas or rock towers either. Formations like that are the result of dead seabeds after millions of years, not an asteroid strike just 100 years earlier. Sorry if you think I'm being over nitpicky, but I had a hard time accepting this, even if it is just a video game.

ChiefFreeman

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I knew this one was coming. It's always inevitable. But how would an idealistic philosophy of communism otherwise survive and persist in the world where the whole of capitalistic-owned world is turned against them? I'm not justifying the actions of communist leaders setting up internment camps and such per se, nor do I think they do it because they are in love with communistic principles necessarily, they do it because they are allowed to. Take away that ability, make them responsible and accountable and take away the restraints of western embargoes and threats of aggression and then you can run the communist experiment and see how it plays out. If it fails in a fair fight then we might just as well conclude that communism is a failed idea OR that humanity isn't mature enough for communism yet.

Tokugawa77

Communism sounds all nice and fair, but it is not and never will be practical. As long as such as thing as human greed exists, communism will always fail and be worse to the people it claims to defend than capitalism ever was.

It is a good point though, that Cuba is poor becase of embargoes (imposed by capitalists), not because of the fact that they are communist.

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[QUOTE="PeterDuck"]

At least communism doesn't exploit third world countries

dercoo

Have you ever heard of every communistic country in history?

History,

China's still doing it

:P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="PeterDuck"] Cuba, USSR. North Korea. There, three separate instances of countries that do not and did not rely on foreign labor to propel and SUSTAIN their economies. Cuba and North Korea have been embargoed for decades which greatly contributes to starvation and economic stagnation. The argument is that the principles of communism are not based on exploitation of those who would be willing to work for less than others. If you find those that will work for 5 cents an hour or whatever (like the Chinese mass producing products for the USA for instance) then why would you pay 15 bucks an hour to an American? that is one of the evils of rampant capitalism and that was the implied principle I was referring to.theone86

That's debatable. North Korea I won't defend, but they're barely communist anyways, more of a dictatorship that came to power using communist rhetoric. The USSR, many citizens had fairly decent standards of living until their economy started going downhill (and really that wasn't due to anything endemic to communism), though that is excepting the people that had their property reposessed or were jailed or killed by the regime. On that note, though, Stalin was a major departure from traditional communism and killed as many Trotskyists as he did anti-communists.

Cuba, they simply don't have many marketable resources. The citizens are poor because they live in a poor country, not because they live in a communist country. However, there are many Cubans who don't mind the standard of living, especially in comparison to the U.S., which they see as extravagant and exploitative.

"The citizens are poor because they live in a poor country, not because they live in a communist country."

precisely. You nailed it

As for Cuba, well, they could be making a fortune with Tourism and Tobacco sales for instance, but they are being embargoed and travel is restricted. And the Central and South American countries are being influenced by the US through foreign aid and other means to NOT trade with Cuba, hence, no fair fight

I knew this one was coming. It's always inevitable. But how would an idealistic philosophy of communism otherwise survive and persist in the world where the whole of capitalistic-owned world is turned against them? I'm not justifying the actions of communist leaders setting up internment camps and such per se, nor do I think they do it because they are in love with communistic principles necessarily, they do it because they are allowed to. Take away that ability, make them responsible and accountable and take away the restraints of western embargoes and threats of aggression and then you can run the communist experiment and see how it plays out. If it fails in a fair fight then we might just as well conclude that communism is a failed idea OR that humanity isn't mature enough for communism yet.

There are some aspects of idealised communism that would definitely be beneficial. I'm not sure why so many people are still stuck in blaming communism for all the problems in the world.foxhound_fox