[QUOTE="Mega_Man_ZXN"]Well, look at the VC this way: why would I want to pay $5 to $10 for a single older game when I can grab one of those collections on, say, PS2 for like, 20 bucks or less? Most of them offer up old arcade goodies, usually between 20 to 40. Great examples include the Capcom Classic Collections and Taito Legends 2, as well as the Genesis Collection. And especially in the case of the Genesis, a number of the games in that collection are also sold on VC...so...there's cheaper ways to get old games, and isn't that Metal Slug Collection on the Wii? Why not throw together a bunch of older Nintendo games on one compilation disc instead of charging out the rear for them? Bread_or_Decide

Look at Sonic. 20 bucks for the mega collection that comes with over 6 games or 8 bucks for ONE game? gtfo.

That Mega Collection's great, I have it for teh Xbox. Plus there's unlockable games beyond the initial ones, so you get a TON of classic Sonic goodness for a low price. I have Ecco and Sonic on the Gen collection...and...they're eight bucks each, separately, on the VC. WTF?

You know what worries me? They are porting over those CATZ and DOGZ games from the DS to the Wii.

Nintendo..control the content on your console darn it!

Bread_or_Decide

Which brings me back to the point of the game being flooded with mostly mediocre games. I mean, I know the PS3 still doesn't have a HUGE library of must-haves, but even it has some very good stuff, and I've got 4 solid games for it (3 exclusive, 1 non). When I look at the Wii selection at the store, I think, "Meh, 3rd-party crap rushed out to make a buck" and "First-party titles that might be fun but feature 20-year-old mascots"

For me it's Assasin's Creed.
Galaxy is amazing, but AC is better. :)Sgt_Crow

Quoted for truth.

AC's one of the most refreshing and original experiences I've played in a very long time. Sad that it'll likely get overlooked in favor of either Halo 3 (fun but a bit overhyped)or Mass Effect (looks amazing,but it'll probably end up as GOTY anyway), but unless Mass Effect TRULY blows me away beyond words, my GOTY vote goes to AC and its awesomeness.

If you could've found me Sin & Punishment forless than$90 before it released on the VC, I would've crowned you god.

Eponique

Well, you can certainly go do something morally questionable and beat yourself up over it/get someone else to beat you or punish you for less than 90 bucks. =D

Welcome to the game that we call System Wars. Please kepp your arms inside the car at all times, and hold on for a bumpy ride.

1. Waving the Wii-mote is highly overblown. Most Wii games use pretty subtle movements. As for the controls, I think a lot of the issue is illustrated by one of your examples, AC (a great game I'm sure, that is in my collection, but I'm trying to finish Zack & Wiki first) In AC you have a lot of functions to keep track of which button combo does what. With the Wii-mote (if done properly) controls can be easy to remember because they match the action (I want to throw an uppercut, I'll jerk the control up)

2. All systems have a mixture of great stuff and garbage. Harry Potter and Spongebob are available on all systems, not just the Wii. Wii offers a good selection of exclusive games while missing out on graphically superior multiplat games. Wii is also lacking in some game genres, but also fills gaps left by the other systems.

3. The pricing of VC games will always be in debate. Personally, I find it's cheaper and more convienant than tracking down these games from ebay or Craigslist. One think you have to admit though is the the VC offers more in content than any of the other services.

shadowcat2576

Well, in AC, it can get a bit complex, but in the upper-right corner of your HUD, it at least tells you what button will do what. It's definitely got one of the steeper learning curves I've seen in a while, and I welcome that.

Thanks for welcoming me. Looking forward to some good debates here. :)

Thank you, Wii fanboy, for doing exactly what you're saying I'm doing.

Hello. Though I'm originally from the Game FAQs forums, this is my first post here and I thought I might get my thoughts on the Wii out there for you all to think about. I personally haven't gotten a Wii yet, and I have a PS3 and a 360. But I'm not convinced that the Wii is a console that I'll be getting anytime soon. I'll give my reasons why below:

1. Swinging a remote -- is it really all THAT innovative? It's not like motion-sensing hasn't been done before, and a lot of people claim that this is a big step forward. I see it as just swinging your arms back and forth and tiring yourself out after a while. There's only so much you can do with swinging a remote around. Wii fanboys tend to argue that it's a lot more forward-thinking than the consoles with the more "standard" controllers, and that the other two systems aren't all that innovative. OK...so, to use a very recent example, Assassin's Creed's control scheme, with its multitude of actions that can be performed based on the context, aren't a fresh way to control the character? Especially since holding the R trigger essentially gives you a whole second set of moves with the four basic action buttons.

2. This is a big one...the games just aren't all that great for the most part. We mostly have crappy 3rd-party stuff that's either quick-and-lazy ports from the PS2/Xbox/GC with hastily tacked-on wiggle controls, or is licensed garbage (I'm looking at you, Harry Potter and Spongebob), and even then, the only real quality titles, the first-party stuff...well, it's just rehashes of Nintendo franchises we've been fed for 20 years now...Mario Galaxy sounds to me like Mario 64 (collecting stars) with gravity elements and some controller wiggling. Same lame plot, too...Princess gets kidnapped, Mario has to save her, blah blah blah. And Zelda wasn't even meant for Wii, they just threw in some wiggling for the sword to make it a Wii launch title.

3. VC is a ripoff. Who wants to pay exorbitant fees for outdated games when you can...ahem, acquire them via the Internet...and...you know. But seriously, it's stupid to pay like $8 for an SNES game just because it's available on some online service from Nintendo. Cripes, Sega Channel was a better concept than that.