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#1 Elephant_Couple
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While this obviously shouldn't be condoned, it's better than killing the people they disagree with like Muslims do. They have the liberty to do this, just as any one of us has the liberty to burn a Bible or an American flag.

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#2 Elephant_Couple
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Lol at people saying Obama.chessmaster1989

Lol at people not saying Obama.

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#3 Elephant_Couple
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i'm amazed our president hasn't been mentioned yet :


/facepalm

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Watch out. You'll be sentenced to death by stoning.

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Obama? *Runs and Hides*ferrari2001

Why would you run and hide? Obama is complete idiot. He's the biggest troll of them all.

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Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

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#6 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] What external factors do you refer to? Because when a person says 'you never see white people in gangs!' that doesn't really say anything at all about external factors whatsoever, but instead purely focuses on the race of the people.

You cannot say 'there are more poor blacks than whites!' and then afterwards say you weren't referring to anything to do with race, but merely external factors. You cannot claim to be referring to external factors while simultaneously not referring to any.

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It doesn't inherently focus on the causes AT ALL. Don't assume that when people state a correlation that they are implying causation.

Like i said, you cannot say 'black people are in gangs, you don't see white people in gangs' and then afterwards claim you were not making any sort of racial observation. It is not the job of the reader to discover what a person meant, but merely to read what they put out there. And if a person said 'black people are always x, y, z' i would assume they are referring to black people, not the underlying social issues. If you're referring to the latter, you generally say so.

WTF? Why in the HELL would I think that black people have an inherently stupid and/or violent quality in them? That makes no sense whatsoever. If you can't figure out I'm alluding to external factors that influence blacks more heavily (especially when I STATE what they are), you shouldn't even be here arguing. Simply put, you're picking and choosing what to read; you're ignoring the meaning I clearly gave to my posts, and you're replacing it with your own. At this point, it's obvious that you're twisting my words and trolling to get a reaction from me, and it's obvious that you know you're trolling. I'm done.

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]We all knew he'd done plenty of crap before, this was just the first one in which he'd actually been caught. Gangbangers tend to get away with a lot of things thanks to strength in numbers.airshocker

This is true. See it all the time.

Known violent gang members of any race should be subject to a standing SoS order...for the police or any citizen who lawfully owns a firearm. But that's just me.

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#8 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

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Wow...nowhere did I state that some inherent quality in black people causes them to fall into the poverty cycle. What the hell have you been reading? I'm done trying to get through to you.

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Well you haven't responded to either of the posts on the previous page were i address this in detail. :) Also, i mean no offense but that is literally exactly what you said:

"Black crime, the hip hop culture, and continued excuses for them are destroying the image of blacks in America. They are destroying any chance blacks in America have of being perceived as educated. "

What exactly is 'black crime' then? You're saying you know it has nothing at all to do with race, yet here you refer to 'black crime', hip hop culture and 'the image of blacks' as well as the perceived intelligence of black people.

Um, black crime is the crime rate among blacks, caused by lack of work, lack of education, etc. The hip hop culture is a culture that many blacks embrace because they are thoroughly represented in it, and it because it glamorizes their unfortunate circumstances. The image of blacks is what is affected negatively by these things. None of this has anything to do with blacks having some inherent quality that makes them worse or inferior. That was something you completely drummed up yourself and began trying to argue with me about.

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#9 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Actually the exact opposite is true. Otherwise i'd have been talking to myself.

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No, it isn't. Perhaps some have argued that cultural relationships associated with race (i.e. gang culture) may have contributed towards these problems, but not race itself.

So the point for example, comparing the number of white people in such circumstances to the number of black people, isn't saying anything about the role race plays in this matter? :|

No. It says something about the external factors that apparently cause more black people to become stuck in those circumstances. Can you not understand that?

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#10 Elephant_Couple
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Dude...have you not heard anything I've said? I never stated that any of these problems are the RESULT of black people. I said that, proportionately, black people have more of these problems and are (possibly) more susceptible to them.

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If you see my post on the previous page i addressed this in detail. :) It has absolutely nothing to do with black people, and even less to do with rap music. It is the poverty cycle, and very little else. The race of the people caught in said cycle is simply down to the history of the previous century, not some inherent quality in black people.

Wow...nowhere did I state that some inherent quality in black people causes them to fall into the poverty cycle. What the hell have you been reading? I'm done trying to get through to you.