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#1 Hypereagle
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im hering alot of bull crap about people who hate avatars and or the new dashboard style and i would just like to say im sorry that something like a dashboard is going to destroy your gears of war 2 and Ut3 experience

Wait dont most hardcore gamers jump to gamedisk disc anyway

if you dont want to look at it or use it than dont!!

Secondly didn't we kind of make 360 do this update

  • We request hundreds of thousands of downloads(200,000)
  • we get pissed off when we have to go through 10 menus just to get the stuff we want (old dash),
  • we get ticked when we here that microsoft is getting rid of content to make more space for us,
  • we begged for a group chat session with our friends (live party)
  • and seamless transition from game to game(new Guide).
  • we asked for new social experiences on xbox live(avatars).
  • we asked for faster games (installs).
  • then we complain that the old dash kept freezing out and glitching and slow menu responses.

so are we really going to be pissed if they actually do something we've been asking for

(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

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#2 trw534
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very true

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#3 II-FBIsniper-II
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Well I know people didn't ask for half of those.

I could care less how many d/l there are.

I didn't care about the menus.

I don't care about them cleaning up the marketplace

I didn't need a transitition from game to game.

I didn't ask for a social experience.

i didn't ask for faster games.

That said, I like the update, and avatars are still a stupid idea.

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#4 Hypereagle
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(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

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#5 Hypereagle
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Well I know people didn't ask for half of those.

I could care less how many d/l there are. Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't care about the menus.

I don't care about them cleaning up the marketplace Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't need a transitition from game to game.

I didn't ask for a social experience.

i didn't ask for faster games. Dought you didn't ask for this

That said, I like the update, and avatars are still a stupid idea.

II-FBIsniper-II
unless you dont have xbox live i dought you dont want any of this>=.
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#6 Matt-4542
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Only part of the update I dont care for is the avatars.
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#8 Hypereagle
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man, i really regret buying a 360 after getting RoD twice theres no hope and now they're turning the 360 into a stupid Wii for little kids, i thought microsoft would have a mature console, i wish i had a PS3 instead they're more reliable

Merc009
dude sony fan boys stop acting like 360 owners and get off our thread
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#9 II-FBIsniper-II
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unless you dont have xbox live i dought you dont want any of this>=.Hypereagle
Why would I care how many downloadable things there are? All I want is the game content, not nike themes and mtv tv shows.

Why would I care that they are cleaning up the less downloaded things on the marketplace? If they are **** I don't need them on the marketplace.

I didn't ask for HDD installs. I only have a 20 GB HDD so I wont even use that feature.

So again, why would I care about a statistic, pointless content being removed, and a feature I'm not going to use?

Again, I like the update, but I don't need those features so stop acting like those were at the top of the list.

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#10 Hypereagle
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[QUOTE="Hypereagle"] unless you dont have xbox live i dought you dont want any of this>=.II-FBIsniper-II

Why would I care how many downloadable things there are? All I want is the game content, not nike themes and mtv tv shows.

Why would I care that they are cleaning up the less downloaded things on the marketplace? If they are **** I don't need them on the marketplace.

I didn't ask for HDD installs. I only have a 20 GB HDD so I wont even use that feature.

So again, why would I care about a statistic, pointless content being removed, and a feature I'm not going to use?

dude are you even gold?
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#11 II-FBIsniper-II
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dude are you even gold?Hypereagle
Don't you see my gamercard down there?
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#12 Merc009
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[QUOTE="Merc009"]

man, i really regret buying a 360 after getting RoD twice theres no hope and now they're turning the 360 into a stupid Wii for little kids, i thought microsoft would have a mature console, i wish i had a PS3 instead they're more reliable

Hypereagle

dude sony fan boys stop acting like 360 owners and get off our thread

if i have a GT with 10,600G how am i "acting" fanboy?

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#13 jake63
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Really, MS is just pandering to the casual crowd with this update. Avatars aren't new, but it's obvious MS is really aping something Nintendo has a pretty good stake in. Why can't the 360 just stay original and unique in its own right (read: blades were a cool idea)? We don't need no stinkin' Yuus or whatever.
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#14 rexxpro
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So is the dashboard update out and mandatory?

My 360 isn't connected to net atm as just moved it to different location in house and need to install network socket there or get wifi adapter.

I guess this update will be available to dl soon?

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#15 Merc009
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So is the dashboard update out and mandatory?

My 360 isn't connected to net atm as just moved it to different location in house and need to install network socket there or get wifi adapter.

I guess this update will be available to dl soon?

rexxpro

i hope not

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#16 II-FBIsniper-II
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So is the dashboard update out and mandatory?

My 360 isn't connected to net atm as just moved it to different location in house and need to install network socket there or get wifi adapter.

I guess this update will be available to dl soon?

rexxpro

The update will be mandatory in it's fall release.

If you don't have internet connection to your 360, they'll release something on xbox.com that you can burn to a disc and put into your 360 to install the update.

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#17 craigalan23
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man, i really regret buying a 360 after getting RoD twice theres no hope and now they're turning the 360 into a stupid Wii for little kids, i thought microsoft would have a mature console, i wish i had a PS3 instead they're more reliable

Merc009

Sell it on eBay and enjoy your ps3.

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#18 apsbox
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Don't know why almost every 360 user hate the new dashboard, it looks amazing for me, it has a lot of eye-candy :)
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

Well I know people didn't ask for half of those.

I could care less how many d/l there are. Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't care about the menus.

I don't care about them cleaning up the marketplace Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't need a transitition from game to game.

I didn't ask for a social experience.

i didn't ask for faster games. Dought you didn't ask for this

That said, I like the update, and avatars are still a stupid idea.

Hypereagle

unless you dont have xbox live i dought you dont want any of this>=.

Doubt, not dought.

Most of this I don't care about either. For downloadable content I usually only want XBLA games but having Netflix will be great for some people. I wanted multiple person chat, because if I have a few friends on and we are playing single player we can talk. A party system doesn't matter to me. I have a 20GB harddrive so I'm not going to be installing anything, I don't really care about load times anyway. Why would I care about them clearing out the marketplace? I never hear people saying that the dashboard is slow, except for loading arcade games and demos. Avatars seem pointless.

It really isn't taking anything away from me and it is giving me something I have wanted for a long time with multiple person voice chat.

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#20 craigalan23
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Don't know why almost every 360 user hate the new dashboard, it looks amazing for me, it has a lot of eye-candy :)apsbox

I can't wait for it. At first it was like eh but i'll enjoy the new features and making a random funny Mii or whatever will be fun in my opinion.

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#21 deactivated-5add084b23cf4
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Well, I'm no lover, but neither a hater, I haven't really tried it yet, and it's much more different seeing screenshots and videos, than using the real deal. Also, avatars aren't the most original of ideas, but I guess I'll use mine as my "personal picture" but if possible, I'll still use my gamer picture
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#22 ethanpaige
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lol Microsoft isn't changing this into the Wii. The only thing remotely near it is the Avatar system, and they're nowhere near as kiddy as Miis. Let's see Wii's games for E3 this year:

Animal Crossing, Wii Sports 2, Wii Music or whatever it was.

Now let's see 360's.

Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Star Ocean, Last Remnant, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5.

You're right, 360 is definitely becoming the Wii.
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#23 Hypereagle
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thank you

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#24 ConkerAndBerri2
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

Well I know people didn't ask for half of those.

I could care less how many d/l there are. Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't care about the menus.

I don't care about them cleaning up the marketplace Dought you didn't ask for this

I didn't need a transitition from game to game.

I didn't ask for a social experience.

i didn't ask for faster games. Dought you didn't ask for this

That said, I like the update, and avatars are still a stupid idea.

Hypereagle
unless you dont have xbox live i dought you dont want any of this>=.

Am i the only one wondering wtf dought means? Anyway i hate the idea of the avatars, love the new dash.
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#25 Mau-Justice
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[QUOTE="Hypereagle"][QUOTE="Merc009"]

man, i really regret buying a 360 after getting RoD twice theres no hope and now they're turning the 360 into a stupid Wii for little kids, i thought microsoft would have a mature console, i wish i had a PS3 instead they're more reliable

Merc009

dude sony fan boys stop acting like 360 owners and get off our thread

if i have a GT with 10,600G how am i "acting" fanboy?

Because you're sounding like a fakeboy. Always trashing the 360. Trust me, you'd regret the whole PS3 thing. At least I did...and 35$ gets you a best buy warranty, you can just get a new one in store. So people complaining about RROD should have been more prepared.

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#26 TX360
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im hering alot of bull crap about people who hate avatars and or the new dashboard style and i would just like to say im sorry that something like a dashboard is going to destroy your gears of war 2 and Ut3 experience

Wait dont most hardcore gamers jump to gamedisk disc anyway

if you dont want to look at it or use it than dont!!

Secondly didn't we kind of make 360 do this update

  • We request hundreds of thousands of downloads(200,000)
  • we get pissed off when we have to go through 10 menus just to get the stuff we want (old dash),
  • we get ticked when we here that microsoft is getting rid of content to make more space for us,
  • we begged for a group chat session with our friends (live party)
  • and seamless transition from game to game(new Guide).
  • we asked for new social experiences on xbox live(avatars).
  • we asked for faster games (installs).
  • then we complain that the old dash kept freezing out and glitching and slow menu responses.

so are we really going to be pissed if they actually do something we've been asking for

(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

Hypereagle

well put

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#27 Hypereagle
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dont get me wrong im not like stock crazy about avatars but i am still going to use it

My dash is going to have an Avatar with a saints row shirt Gears 2 theme black background and my gamerpic

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#29 hellshemi
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dont get me wrong im not like stock crazy about avatars but i am still going to use it

My dash is going to have an Avatar with a saints row shirt Gears 2 theme black background and my gamerpic

Hypereagle

Riiiight, how many topics have you made about this?

Really man some people just dont like the idea. Get over it and stop making topics about this. From looking at the contributions you have made to Gamespot in general your just looking to argue or change eveyones mind.

Which wont happen.

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#30 MsCortana
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Am i the only one wondering wtf dought means? Anyway i hate the idea of the avatars, love the new dash.ConkerAndBerri2

:lol:

Yeah, the spelling does throw you for a loop...eh? :lol:

I feel the same way. I am thrilled about the new update minus the rather juvenile looking avatars.

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#31 tony2077ca
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i wouldn't update if there wasn't any demos
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#32 deactivated-5e8f9aa27192b
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Really, MS is just pandering to the casual crowd with this update. Avatars aren't new, but it's obvious MS is really aping something Nintendo has a pretty good stake in. Why can't the 360 just stay original and unique in its own right (read: blades were a cool idea)? We don't need no stinkin' Yuus or whatever. jake63

@ the bolded part: I have people yelling at me every time I say that.

But I can almost guarantee, everyone who says they hate it now, will only start loving it (or atleast get use to it, and I'm refering to the dashbord only) when it gets here. Once everyone forgets about the old Dashbord and has the new one drilled into their minds

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#33 Hypereagle
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[QUOTE="jake63"]Really, MS is just pandering to the casual crowd with this update. Avatars aren't new, but it's obvious MS is really aping something Nintendo has a pretty good stake in. Why can't the 360 just stay original and unique in its own right (read: blades were a cool idea)? We don't need no stinkin' Yuus or whatever. Daykeem

@ the bolded part: I have people yelling at me every time I say that.

But I can almost guarantee, everyone who says they hate it now, will only start loving it (or atleast get use to it, and I'm refering to the dashbord only) when it gets here. Once everyone forgets about the old Dashbord and has the new one drilled into their minds

couldn't have put it better myself no seriosly i have been trying to say that for like 2 forums

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#34 amourkiss
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well, the idea is fine and no doubt for that.

but the thing that people are hating it is its look, they should have made the whole display better.

and give us a break, we believe the idea and graphic should live alone together, thats what is missing in Avatars.

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#35 insane_metalist
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I liked 360's dashboard more then ps3's. But after hearing this it might be worse. Last update on PSN improved a lot and I'm liking it more already.
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#36 Quintinius
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(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

Hypereagle

I won't take an opinion from someone who can't even spell OFF.

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#37 Bulova
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A little surprised nobody has mentioned gamespot's more indepth look at the new dashboard.

For those of you complaining about not getting to keep the old "blade" system....take a look at the screenshots showing the new "blade" system. You can still access and use blades by pressing the guide button.

If you don't like the avatars, then stop complaining and just don't use them.

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#38 sr_darkzodiac
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Why not provide a link to where is says that there is an option to disable avatars, im sure nobody will give a shiiit if you can disable them, i know i wont. We payed for live and the 360 because we like the way it WAS if we dont want to use this new update we should have the option to turn it off, and from the huge ammount of people who are complaing about it, which i would say is the majority of people, we should be able too, i have not heard if it was possible but from what your saying "just turn it off" then thats great no one will give a damn. Post up the link and lets see if its true.
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#39 ronnet
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Only part of the update I dont care for is the avatars.Matt-4542

its optional, the enite dashboard is. Just use the guide button, its goign to be the entire old dashboard. Besides avatars are nice for 1 vs 100 and other games you might want to do for fun or with your girlfriend. Not to mention that its a must have to win this generation. I know we dont want 10 year olds but a lot of them are going to buy a console soon based on these extras instead of exclusives so Microsoft has to do this.

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#40 ronnet
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Why not provide a link to where is says that there is an option to disable avatars, im sure nobody will give a shiiit if you can disable them, i know i wont. We payed for live and the 360 because we like the way it WAS if we dont want to use this new update we should have the option to turn it off, and from the huge ammount of people who are complaing about it, which i would say is the majority of people, we should be able too, i have not heard if it was possible but from what your saying "just turn it off" then thats great no one will give a damn. Post up the link and lets see if its true.sr_darkzodiac

People dont know if you can turn it off, but if you complain enough then the next update will have that feature. Until then just use the guide button which is the old dashboard after the update.

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#41 ronnet
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[QUOTE="Hypereagle"]

(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

Quintinius

I won't take an opinion from someone who can't even spell OFF.

Its a website, people from around the world visit it. That could be a collage proffesor from india who speaks 5 different languages.

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#42 iboo01
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(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

Hypereagle

Agreed

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#43 djrobst
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i wouldn't update if there wasn't any demostony2077ca
yes u wud if u bought a new game with the update on, some games update u as well offline, but u never notice unless u never take ur console online, because if its connected to the net then u get them before they get a chance to be put on disc
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#44 Def_Defyin
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You know with all this **** about the avatars, who ever said they're all going to look like the what? One or two we saw? We don't know what all the options are so we really can't say if they're all **** or not. I don't paticularly like how the ones they showed at E3 looked but I do see a glimmer of hope. I was intrested when they said that achievements might unlock new costumes/clothing options for your avatar. Think obtaining all the Halo3 achievements and then unlocking a Master Chief or Spartan costume. Plus this is MS we're talking about here, if people are so pissed off that their avatar looks "kiddy" they'll just throw on new items for purchase on the marketplace and make a killing.

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#45 Vengent25
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Does it really matter?? There will be 2 guide buttons. one with the avatars the normal and one that is like the default which is smaller and more orgamized when you click the middle button on the 360 controller.
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#46 Supabul
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man, i really regret buying a 360 after getting RoD twice theres no hope and now they're turning the 360 into a stupid Wii for little kids, i thought microsoft would have a mature console, i wish i had a PS3 instead they're more reliable

Merc009

I thought MS would have a mature console, some things that people say really crack me up, its so funny, a mature console what the hell is he on about.

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#47 GSU28
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im hering alot of bull crap about people who hate avatars and or the new dashboard style and i would just like to say im sorry that something like a dashboard is going to destroy your gears of war 2 and Ut3 experience

Wait dont most hardcore gamers jump to gamedisk disc anyway

if you dont want to look at it or use it than dont!!

Secondly didn't we kind of make 360 do this update

  • We request hundreds of thousands of downloads(200,000)
  • we get pissed off when we have to go through 10 menus just to get the stuff we want (old dash),
  • we get ticked when we here that microsoft is getting rid of content to make more space for us,
  • we begged for a group chat session with our friends (live party)
  • and seamless transition from game to game(new Guide).
  • we asked for new social experiences on xbox live(avatars).
  • we asked for faster games (installs).
  • then we complain that the old dash kept freezing out and glitching and slow menu responses.

so are we really going to be pissed if they actually do something we've been asking for

(GROW UP, GET OVER IT< OR GET OF XBOX LIVE)

Hypereagle

Players aren't angry at this because they're HAAARDCORE, they are pissed because they don't want a childish dashboard which is ripped straight from the Wii.

Don't get me wrong I love my Wii, but I want a Wii and a 360. Not a Wii60. Now let me address a few of your points.

  • we get pissed off when we have to go through 10 menus just to get the stuff we want (old dash),

I agree this is annoying. However, the answer to this isn't to turn the whole Xbox Live experience upside down in favor of attracting a new audience of 10 year olds and younger.

  • and seamless transition from game to game(new Guide).

I don't think you understand this "feature." This will not give you the ability whislt in the middle of one game to seamlessly leap into another game. Once you select to go to another game, the system queues said game and then you have to change the disks. Yup, you have to take out your current game and put in the game you want to play. Once the disk is in you will jump "seamlessly" into your next game.

This is, how do you say? Oh yeah, pointless. Is it really sooo hard to get up, open the disk tray, and exchange disks? Actually, were you to do that you would leap into the next game anyway. Useless.

  • we asked for new social experiences on xbox live(avatars).

Speak for yourself. I have yet to hear of anyone wanting a Mii on XBL. As for "new social experiences," what more do you want? Xbox Live is the best online experience you can ask for. Of course it isn't perfect and there are many improvements they can make to the dashboard and content available; yet once again the answer is not to turn the established system of blades into a cross media bar with a dancing cartoon.

There is a reason people are upset and they have every right to be. This isn't something "we've been asking for." Some wanted improvements, not to let some 8 year old give the dashboard a facelift.

Grow up? I think the "issue" here is that we are grown up. We aren't the prepubescent kids who we so often mute. Why should we get off Xbox Live? Because we actually want an experience that does not emulate the Nintendo playbook? That's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. And if you ask me, this is an issue of great concern. I am not going to quit XBL, but this is disappointing nontheless. Perhaps when more details come out it will not be as bad as it looks, but I won't keep my hopes up.

It's a shame to know that once Microsoft makes up their mind they just won't back down.

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#48 Supabul
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If the new update is making you worried about the 360's imagine as a hardcore gaming machine, then your the one that needs to grow.

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#49 sr_darkzodiac
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Read the above statment by GSU2, and if you have and still posted that idiotic post. You are the one that indeed needs to grow up
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#50 doberman20
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Well I know people didn't ask for half of those.

I could care less how many d/l there are.

I didn't care about the menus.

I don't care about them cleaning up the marketplace

I didn't need a transitition from game to game.

I didn't ask for a social experience.

i didn't ask for faster games.

That said, I like the update, and avatars are still a stupid idea.

II-FBIsniper-II

i agree except for chat i want more than one person but not over 4