I think most of you have the wrong image of COD Elite

The Majority of it will be free, it is not required to play the game. This time, Activison will be laying out their whole DLC plan at the launch of the game, so you can make an informed decision if its worth buying. But even if you don't you still get access to most of the features - Stat Tracking, Groups, Etc.

Read the full Q&A Here: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/03/call-of-duty-elite-qanda-we-ask-activision-to-clear-up-some-of-th/

Then post what you think after reading it.

all i know is that xbox ahoy is working on it as hes doing the weapon strategy guides and if they are free then im happy. i dont see how they could charge you for videos though tbh. either i think its cool, i probably wont be paying for any of the other stuff due to the fact that im pretty average at COD so comptetions and clan matches arent really my thing

Well all I know is that Battlefield has the same thing and it's gonna be free.

Well all I know is that Battlefield has the same thing and it's gonna be free.

me_rock

The Majority of it will be free, it is not required to play the game. This time, Activison will be laying out their whole DLC plan at the launch of the game, so you can make an informed decision if its worth buying. But even if you don't you still get access to most of the features - Stat Tracking, Groups, Etc.

Read the full Q&A Here: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/03/call-of-duty-elite-qanda-we-ask-activision-to-clear-up-some-of-th/

Then post what you think after reading it.

DeX2010

Well there are many reasons people have a problem with this:

1. COD map packs were already overpriced and now there will be a monthly charge that over just a matter of a few months goes beyond the cost of the map packs.

2. Can you play the map packs only while paying the monthly charge? If so, that's messed up.

3. There are no other games other than MMO's that charge monthly fees. I'm pretty sure this would be the first non-MMO to do so.

4. Bungie already has a great free stat tracking service with heat maps and all kinds of crazy stuff and DICE is putting out somethign to eclipse what they had for Battlefield 2 in terms of all that.

5. People are upset with Activision in general. They already screwed up Guitar Hero and now they have turned COD into Madden. PEOPLE are getting sick of it.

I severly hope most people don't pay for this service as it will only prove to Activision they can get away with anything.

Well there are many reasons people have a problem with this:

1. COD map packs were already overpriced and now there will be a monthly charge that over just a matter of a few months goes beyond the cost of the map packs.

2. Can you play the map packs only while paying the monthly charge? If so, that's messed up.

3. There are no other games other than MMO's that charge monthly fees. I'm pretty sure this would be the first non-MMO to do so.

4. Bungie already has a great free stat tracking service with heat maps and all kinds of crazy stuff and DICE is putting out somethign to eclipse what they had for Battlefield 2 in terms of all that.

5. People are upset with Activision in general. They already screwed up Guitar Hero and now they have turned COD into Madden. PEOPLE are getting sick of it.

I severly hope most people don't pay for this service as it will only prove to Activision they can get away with anything.

firefox59

I think the problem is that there's no reason why this shouldn't be free. I understand charging for the map packs, but like Halo's Forge mode, this could have been something that is fresh and unique for a series that is flirting with becoming stagnant. Unfortunately Activision knows that they will sell anything Call of Duty related regardless of innovation or unique features.

We already know that most game companies play follow the leader; Call of Duty is hugely successful, so why not try and copy it? There are some games out there that really have no right for charging for map packs (Operation Flashpoint, Crysis 2, and many others) yet they do so because it makes them money. So if Elite becomes successful, what's to stop other companies from doing what they've been always doing - follow the leader.

This is definitely a grey area that may or may not have severe repercussions as we imagine.

and by the way... getting a special weapon skin doesn't matter, if that's what they give you. nobody gives a crap about how your gun looks. if it's a different gun or a different perk that affect gameplay, yeah, that's lame as hell. but they haven't said anything about that, nor have they even remotely suggested that's the case.pan1cknife

Wht would they tell you? Did Hitler tell the Jews he was preparing them for a slaughter? Of course not!

HilbillyRokstar

...Kind of a different scenario going on here.

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

Wht would they tell you? Did Hitler tell the Jews he was preparing them for a slaughter? Of course not!

Lanezy

...Kind of a different scenario going on here.

seriously, are you comparing COD: Elite to the holocaust? get ahold of yourself.pan1cknife

Yeah, I see. Not worth it for me, but I'm sure some will enjoy it.RoslindaleOne

[QUOTE="pan1cknife"]seriously, are you comparing COD: Elite to the holocaust? get ahold of yourself.HilbillyRokstar

We're not children. We understand how deception works, but comparing the strategies used by the Nazis to exterminate 6 million people to HOW Activision may handle CoD Elite is pretty naive and, honestly, dangerously stupid.

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="pan1cknife"]seriously, are you comparing COD: Elite to the holocaust? get ahold of yourself.Lanezy

We're not children. We understand how deception works, but comparing the strategies used by the Nazis to exterminate 6 million people to HOW Activision may handle CoD Elite is pretty naive and, honestly, dangerously stupid.

not to start a flame war, but you're borderline autistic if you can't see why people would see your example as asinine.pan1cknife

I honestly think this is going to be a ripoff. They love milking money out of CoD and this just seems like a bigger excuse for them to charge us for stuff we used to get for free. I certainly don't need it, and I hope others out there will feel the same way and not buy into their disturbing reach into our pockets. That would just prove their point and make them try to feed on us more.

What exactly is so "dangerous" about it? You can't handle your emotions if the example is too extreme? I am anything but naive. Maybe you need therapy if reality is a little too harsh, because I'm not gonna water down my viewpoint just to suit your sensibilities. If you can't handle it, find another forum, 'cause I'm not going anywhere!.HilbillyRokstar

Can you not see that you are sensationalzing the actual facts just to fit your view point. How is Activisions plans for CoD Elite anything like the holocaust? Oh, I forgot, Activision's customers will be deceived much like the Jews were in Nazi Germany. Wow, I wonder if you would be so brazen to say what you believe if you actually lived through it or knew anybody that did. I don't, but I do have some respect.

It bothers me that you actual believe, wholeheartedly, in that type of justification. If that's your mentality towards a simple enhancement to a game then I truly feel sorry for you and it may be time for you to grow up.

Honestly, this tread has gotten a little bit out of hand. I've finished what I had to say and I'm not going to try and waste anymore time on ridiculous thoughts.

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

What exactly is so "dangerous" about it? You can't handle your emotions if the example is too extreme? I am anything but naive. Maybe you need therapy if reality is a little too harsh, because I'm not gonna water down my viewpoint just to suit your sensibilities. If you can't handle it, find another forum, 'cause I'm not going anywhere!.Lanezy

Can you not see that you are sensationalzing the actual facts just to fit your view point. How is Activisions plans for CoD Elite anything like the holocaust? Oh, I forgot, Activision's customers will be deceived much like the Jews were in Nazi Germany. Wow, I wonder if you would be so brazen to say what you believe if you actually lived through it or knew anybody that did. I don't, but I do have some respect.

It bothers me that you actual believe, wholeheartedly, in that type of justification. If that's your mentality towards a simple enhancement to a game then I truly feel sorry for you and it may be time for you to grow up.

Honestly, this tread has gotten a little bit out of hand. I've finished what I had to say and I'm not going to try and waste anymore time on ridiculous thoughts.

The Majority of it will be free, it is not required to play the game. This time, Activison will be laying out their whole DLC plan at the launch of the game, so you can make an informed decision if its worth buying. But even if you don't you still get access to most of the features - Stat Tracking, Groups, Etc.

Read the full Q&A Here: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/03/call-of-duty-elite-qanda-we-ask-activision-to-clear-up-some-of-th/

Then post what you think after reading it.

[QUOTE="Lanezy"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

Wht would they tell you? Did Hitler tell the Jews he was preparing them for a slaughter? Of course not!

HilbillyRokstar

...Kind of a different scenario going on here.

You think they got up like every other day and saw how an unknown man named Adolf was killing everyone in their city? out of the blue?

Please get your facts straight.

to be fair, all games are profit motivated...pan1cknife

[QUOTE="pan1cknife"]to be fair, all games are profit motivated...rafferty_1875

Not going to pay a monthly fee for a game on top of my Xbox Live fee. That's just nuts.

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="Lanezy"]

...Kind of a different scenario going on here.

_TheJoker_

You think they got up like every other day and saw how an unknown man named Adolf was killing everyone in their city? out of the blue?

Please get your facts straight.

get the hell out of here

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]It's all about deception, either way. The victims will always be the last to know.HilbillyRokstar

You think they got up like every other day and saw how an unknown man named Adolf was killing everyone in their city? out of the blue?

Please get your facts straight.

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]It's all about deception, either way. The victims will always be the last to know.HilbillyRokstar

You think they got up like every other day and saw how an unknown man named Adolf was killing everyone in their city? out of the blue?

Please get your facts straight.

Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%). :roll:

People need to stop complaining. Activision is greedy and fiendish, but it is not stupid. They understand that if they include game-altering content to the elite features that must be paid for, that they will be discouraging A LOT of people from playing their game, and would lose more money than they would eventually gain from Elite. The extra features most likely will not affect the gameplay or online matches, period. That being said, there is no reason to complain because they are simply giving you tons of stuff for FREE. If the features that must be paid for give subscribed players advantages over unsubscribed players online (in matches, matchmaking, etc...) then I will be the first to complain, but I HIGHLY doubt that will be the case.

If you think the price is ridiculous, cool, don't pay for it, that's understandable. But why complain about it...? You only gain from them doing this, because you are getting the free content and will still be able to enjoy MW3 as much as you would have if Elite had never existed, even if you don't have the paid features.

I think people just want to hate on CoD/Activision tbh. I don't even like the CoD series that much and I despise the way Activision is oversaturating the industry, but it's just ridiculous to hate on getting free stuff, and them giving you an OPTION to pay for features that probably won't have any influence on the actual online gameplay and online matches.

When I first heard they were planning on charging for elite I got pretty angry, but after reading some articles I must admit I am... curious... Some people here must not have read the link because things like playing online, stat tracking, sharing videos, etc are all free. Premium members get compete and improve (which seem hinted to be premium), and any and all DLC.

Whether or not this is good depends entirely on pricing. If they charge $5 a month and only release 3 map packs like they have before then yes, it would be a major ripoff, conversly however if they release a map pack every month that would be pretty good deal. Whats more, the article hints at other forms of DLC different from map packs which has a bit of potential depending on what they do.

Everyone seems to be jumping to conclusions because of the rumors from last year that activision was planning on charging to play CoD online. If that were the case I would be up in arms, but its not, in fact there has been very little info revealed so far (for all we know Elite could be $1 a month). I feel it would be best to reserve judgment and wait until we find out more about Activision's plans instead of instinctivly bashing a service we know little about simply because its CoD.

tl;dr

People are raging about something we know little about. Its better to wait and see what Activision is planning then jump to conclusions.

get the hell out of here

king871

Oh and Hillbilly, you're making a fool of yourself in this thread :?. You just look assumptious, pompous, conceited and disrespectful :|.

elpooz

]What are you talking about? The Nazis convinced the people they invaded that nothing would change and the walls they put up around the cities were there to protect them. He took over a large percent of Poland that way. To what facts were you referring?HilbillyRokstar

What does this have to do with the thread? I find it offensive that you would bring up such a sensitive issue in a video game thread.