Anyone else irritated about the Xbox "3"?

There will not be a new one by 2009 because technology hasn't advanced enough to warrant another generation of systems and I doubt it will change much within 2 years.

Microsoft isn't stupid. They are a multibillion dollar company. They will not make a stupid mistake like releasing it in 2009, as this is way too early. 2010 seems at the VERY earliest, although in my personal opinion, the years of 4-5 year generations are over. Games are approaching the point where they look near-photo-realistic on current gen consoles, so what exactly would the selling point of the new consoles be? Soon the "better graphics" excuse will be irrelevant.

One more thing to add before I head off to play DMC4:

Just because it was the first system to come out this gen doesn't mean the next one to come out will be first also. Look at PS2, came out a year earlier than the GCN/xbox yet PS3 came out a year later than 360 and at the same time as Wii. It is very possible that the next xbox could come out 6 years after 360, which would make it 2011.

Look at the timetable for the Xbox and 360:

Nov 2001 - Xbox

Nov 2005 - Xbox 360

Nov 2009 - "Xbox 3"

It makes perfect sense when you look at it in context. A four year cycle is plenty. The only way MS could go wrong in doing this is if they drop support for the 360 as fast as they dropped support for the Xbox.

Bringing out a new system in 2009 would also be perfect for introducing a Blu-Ray enabled Xbox. Blu-Ray may be the leading HD format, but the market penetration and demand for HD movies is still very small and will only really start to take off in a year or two. Gee, that's right around the end of 2009! Imagine that!

Look at the timetable for the Xbox and 360:

Nov 2001 - Xbox

Nov 2005 - Xbox 360

Nov 2009 - "Xbox 3"

It makes perfect sense when you look at it in context. A four year cycle is plenty. The only way MS could go wrong in doing this is if they drop support for the 360 as fast as they dropped support for the Xbox.

Bringing out a new system in 2009 would also be perfect for introducing a Blu-Ray enabled Xbox. Blu-Ray may be the leading HD format, but the market penetration and demand for HD movies is still very small and will only really start to take off in a year or two. Gee, that's right around the end of 2009! Imagine that!

true_apollo

Gee, I dont know about that one. It will be awkward to see Resident Evil 5 and Gears of War 2 releasing AFTER "Xbox 3." It just doesnt make any sense. Maybe a possible last quarter 2009 release but all the buzz of the new console will just kill it for some of the best games; literally stealing the limelight. I'll stick with my prediction, 2010.

Look at the timetable for the Xbox and 360:

Nov 2001 - Xbox

Nov 2005 - Xbox 360

Nov 2009 - "Xbox 3"

It makes perfect sense when you look at it in context. A four year cycle is plenty. The only way MS could go wrong in doing this is if they drop support for the 360 as fast as they dropped support for the Xbox.

Bringing out a new system in 2009 would also be perfect for introducing a Blu-Ray enabled Xbox. Blu-Ray may be the leading HD format, but the market penetration and demand for HD movies is still very small and will only really start to take off in a year or two. Gee, that's right around the end of 2009! Imagine that!

true_apollo

U know that doesnt make any sense at all. 360 was released in 2005 because First xbox didnt sell too good and they wanted to be first "Next gen" system on the market. Wii and PS3 came out in late 2006 so why would Microsoft hurry up when next "war" is years away. AND they need atleast 1 year marketing time before it gets released like every system that has come out.

-Im sorry about my english i hope you guys understand what i mean.

Hey, do you guys know that the word "Gullible" is not in the dictionary? It's true! Go look it up!!

People will believe anything, I swear. This is probably something some Wii or PS3 fanboy made up "Did you hear that Microsoft is working on the new Xbox to release it next year? Yeah, they're totally scared by how freakin' awesome the PS3 is. Good thing I bought the ten year console!!"

This reminds me of back in early '05 when I constantly had people telling me "Yeah, the PS3 is already out in Japan!! They're just waiting to release it here cause they always come out a couple years early in Japan." And the sad thing? You try to tell these people that it's total bull but they won't accept it. They think they're telling you some uber-elite stuff and there's no way you're going to convince them otherwise. Like those people that go around telling everyone "Yeah man, the average person swallows (insert number) of spider in their sleep every year!!". Go ahead, try and tell them it's an urban legend and any scientist that has looked into it has said it's BS... they're not going to believe you. They think they just told you some crazy interesting fact and they should be on Jeopardy or some sh1t.

Jesus, man... don't believe or spread every stupid little rumor you hear. Just because the last person that told you this added some term like "Market analysts" doesn't mean that makes it hold any proverbial water.

Over a year away.....

There's nothing to be concerned about. They will still make games for the 360 for atleast 6 months after the new console is released.

I highly doubt we will see the next XBox within the next year. More likely it IS in the early planning stages at this point, but Im guessing it sees the light of day no less than 2 - 3 1/2 years from now at some major event like E3 or maybe GDC or something.

It's all about MONEY...people

If MS has to support the 360 with its RROD, just how many free consoles will MS have to produce for replacement consoles in order to keep making cash with the replacement for 3 years plan?

MS knows people will buy the new console so they wont lose anything (notice I spelled it correctly all you non-spelling "loose" idiots out there)

A new tech with built-in wireless, Blu-Ray and higher tech than the PS3 would make perfect sense.

If they could make it completely backwards compatible with no emulation problems, I would trade in my 360 in a heartbeat.

hey i like the new systems coming out every 5 yrs. It makes the older games cheaper faster. I'm big on collecting games, but I dont like to pay full price. so i wait til games are platinum hits, used, or just old.

But some people have the $ and want the latest best games that are available. You cant force the people to play the Xbox360 for more than a few more years if they want something more powerfull. It's like how you have to upgrade your PC to play the new games like Crisis (my computer im sure will not run that game at all)

While I'm not willing to interpret this rumor as "true" until its confirmed, it honestly wouldn't surprise me, considering the 360 was compeletely outdated the moment PS3 hit shelves.

And no offence to 360 owners (I've had two myself, a premium that bricked and then an Elite that I sold off last week) but the writing is on the wall. The 360 is flawed hardware and went with the wrong format from the getgo, and considering the millions upon millions of dollars MS is losing due to the issues with 360, it might just become mandatory for them to move forward with another console.

2009 is too early i mean its not like the hardware is obsoleite or anything. I mean there are amazing looking games that havent been released yet. And plus i just got my console last year during christmas (wasnt a gift or anything sold my Wii for it) the console still has a lot of good things comming out for it no need the rush the next one out. fallendamnation

I disagree with you that the 360 "is not obsolete", I honestly feel that it is. Its flawed hardware wise, its using whats soon to be an obsolete disc format, and while the PS3 is building up steam, the 360 seems to be slowing down already.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some fanboy trying to say its rubbish or anythng, its got great graphics and I quite enjoyed "Mass Effect" and "BioShock", but with all the problems its having with hardware, the console is costing MS millions in replacements and repairs. It also just lost its HD-DVD support. (also, I'm not expert, but from what I understand, 3-4 disc games like Blue Dragon & Lost Odyssey would only take up one, two at the most bluray discs).

MS knows people will buy the new console so they wont lose anything (notice I spelled it correctly all you non-spelling "loose" idiots out there)

FooFighter145

:lol: THANK YOU!!!!

That mispelling is one of my pet peeves and a common sight on these boards.

*sigh*

If you dont like it then dont buy the new xbox.

I doubt they would release a new xbox in 2009, you dont have to believe everything you hear.

The PS2 is faulty hardware too. I had to replace my PS2 three times.Zach68486

Cause you modded it right?

It is totally expected. When they decided to use DVDs instead of blu-ray their lifespan had already been cut short.gatsbythepig

Why exactly is that? That's like saying my 200gb hdd is obsolete because 300gbs are now on the market. It's JUST a storage medium. The bluray, in and of itself, doesn't make games better or worse. And dvds will be around for a while even after this consoles life cycle has ended, even the ps3s. Only about 30ish% even have HDTVs right now. I wouldn't worry about dvds falling off the radar just yet.

I 100% will go on record right now that we WILL NOT have a new XBOX console untill 2010 or later!

I don't think the holt 360 will happen with the arrival of a new xbox. It was just costing them to much for that system to keep around. Next will have the same guts in side and I am sure they will try and make 360 live on in the same way PS2 is living on.

next Xbox 2010 at xmas I can handle. Any other time is too soon.

[QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]It is totally expected. When they decided to use DVDs instead of blu-ray their lifespan had already been cut short.brianpoetzel

It's JUST a storage medium. The bluray, in and of itself, doesn't make games better or worse.

Not better or worse, but certainly more effective. Would "Blue Dragon" or "Lost Odyssey" need to be on 3-4 discs if they were blueray? No. Don't get me wrong, its an amazing game and I think GS's score for Lost Odyssey should have been alot higher, but when my buddy opened his game and it was discs all stacked together, with another one in some stupid sleve, sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit.

I 100% will go on record right now that we WILL NOT have a new XBOX console untill 2010 or later!

CheezyFrog

I agree.

1) That's just a prediction (like poll numbers, weather reports, etc.) not an official statement.

2) MS would do better waiting till they had all the kinks worked out for the Xbox 720 (or whatever)

3) Even the guys at OXM think it's still got at least another two more years left in it.

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[QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]It is totally expected. When they decided to use DVDs instead of blu-ray their lifespan had already been cut short.TheKungFool

It's JUST a storage medium. The bluray, in and of itself, doesn't make games better or worse.

Not better or worse, but certainly more effective. Would "Blue Dragon" or "Lost Odyssey" need to be on 3-4 discs if they were blueray? No. Don't get me wrong, its an amazing game and I think GS's score for Lost Odyssey should have been alot higher, but when my buddy opened his game and it was discs all stacked together, with another one in some stupid sleve, sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit.

I don't mind the disc stack so much. PC games have come like that for years so I'm used to it. But the fourth in the sleeve was a bit poor. And yeah, if it was on a bluray it would have been on one disc. But whether it's on four discs or just one, it's still the exact same game.

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"][QUOTE="brianpoetzel"]

[QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]It is totally expected. When they decided to use DVDs instead of blu-ray their lifespan had already been cut short.brianpoetzel

It's JUST a storage medium. The bluray, in and of itself, doesn't make games better or worse.

Not better or worse, but certainly more effective. Would "Blue Dragon" or "Lost Odyssey" need to be on 3-4 discs if they were blueray? No. Don't get me wrong, its an amazing game and I think GS's score for Lost Odyssey should have been alot higher, but when my buddy opened his game and it was discs all stacked together, with another one in some stupid sleve, sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit.

I don't mind the disc stack so much. PC games have come like that for years so I'm used to it. But the fourth in the sleeve was a bit poor. And yeah, if it was on a bluray it would have been on one disc. But whether it's on four discs or just one, it's still the exact same game.

I can appreciate your point, but the obvious benefit remains. It may be the same exact beit on 4 discs or 1 single bluray disc, but you can certainly understand the benefits to the space afforded with the bluray medium. Especially when it comes to production, packaging, and looking forward a few years to what hopefully ends up being some bigger/better games.

Lets be honest, it might be the same game, but if you had your choice between it being on one disc or four, you'd more than likely opt for the single disc, barring some kind of disc switching fetish.

[QUOTE="brianpoetzel"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"][QUOTE="brianpoetzel"]

[QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]It is totally expected. When they decided to use DVDs instead of blu-ray their lifespan had already been cut short.TheKungFool

It's JUST a storage medium. The bluray, in and of itself, doesn't make games better or worse.

Not better or worse, but certainly more effective. Would "Blue Dragon" or "Lost Odyssey" need to be on 3-4 discs if they were blueray? No. Don't get me wrong, its an amazing game and I think GS's score for Lost Odyssey should have been alot higher, but when my buddy opened his game and it was discs all stacked together, with another one in some stupid sleve, sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit.

I don't mind the disc stack so much. PC games have come like that for years so I'm used to it. But the fourth in the sleeve was a bit poor. And yeah, if it was on a bluray it would have been on one disc. But whether it's on four discs or just one, it's still the exact same game.

I can appreciate your point, but the obvious benefit remains. It may be the same exact beit on 4 discs or 1 single bluray disc, but you can certainly understand the benefits to the space afforded with the bluray medium. Especially when it comes to production, packaging, and looking forward a few years to what hopefully ends up being some bigger/better games.

Lets be honest, it might be the same game, but if you had your choice between it being on one disc or four, you'd more than likely opt for the single disc, barring some kind of disc switching fetish.

i lol'ed.

Yeah, with all things being equal I'd prefer the game one one disc.

no worries, glad you had a chuckle, lol.

I 100% will go on record right now that we WILL NOT have a new XBOX console untill 2010 or later!

CheezyFrog

hopefully its not in 2010, a little bit later.. so expensive for just playing since august.

I'm not bother by it, I'll stick with the 360 until there's some price drops for it. I mean I bought my 360 for $500, didn't get any games with it in a bundle, no HDMI, a crappy disk drive, a 20GB HDD, etc... And now you can buy an Elite for cheaper and have all that stuff, and there's rumours of another new SKU coming out that will be Wi-Fi ready, new heatsink and new chip, all the bells and whistles. Scarface_tm431