XBOX Founder: If Apple so chooses, they will simply kill MS/Sony/Ninty - UPDATE

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

All the cool kids buy Apple products.

I'd buy an Apple Mac laptop or "Macbook" but I don't go out to drink coffee.

Pete-B

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

All the cool kids buy Apple products.

I'd buy an Apple Mac laptop or "Macbook" but I don't go out to drink coffee.

Pete-B

also any elitist are, 

and they are certainlaly some in this forum, for each system.

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

[QUOTE="quebec946"] if by cool you mean dbags then yes.

clyde46

Doubt apple ever get back into the console market since  the apple pippin flopped.

I'd like to see controllers with a trackball that was ahead of it's time though.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Pete-B"] I've never met an apple user call someone a dbag over their choice of computers/software... wish I could say the same for the windows 1337 group.

Pete-B

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

All the cool kids buy Apple products.

I'd buy an Apple Mac laptop or "Macbook" but I don't go out to drink coffee.

battlefieldfan4

LOL... Indeed. I don't mind the girls. They know they're buying an inferior machine because they can't comprehend something as 'complex' (lol) as the PC, but the guys always seem to have a chip on their shoulders. They claim that windows is too hard to use (Which is a blatant admission that their IQ is pobably lower than 70) and brag about how none of them can understand how to use a PC. Do you know anyone else in the world who brags about being stupid?

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Doubt apple ever get back into the console market since  the apple pippin flopped.

 

I'd like to see controllers with a trackball that was ahead of it's time though.

 

nextgenjoke

The funny thing about this thing was that it could be turned into a real MAC computer if you bought some peripherals and stuff.

It also costed 599 US dollars and sold just 40k units...

[QUOTE="Pete-B"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I've been insulted by Windows users when I'm on my Macbook Pro when I was at uni. quebec946

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] Yeah, truly a sad scene. I just shrug it off. Pete-B

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

Stop lying. The Apple fanbase is the worse. Apple is just another dell. They go around "shopping" for parts from Samsung and other manufacturers. Then they assemble the parts together, hike up the price and then claim said device is magical.

Link.

[quote="Nat Brown"]I was a founder of the original xBox project at Microsoft and gave it its name. Almost 14 years after the painful, pointless, and idiotic internal cage-match to get it started and funded, the hard selling of a compelling and lucrative living-room product to Bill (and then Steve as he began to take over), a product that consumers would want and love and demand, I am actually still thrilled to see how far it has come, how many installed units it has, how it is crushing its original console competitors, how the brand has grown and endured, and especially how great the games have become.

But the past 5 years, and the last year in particular, have been simply painful to watch. Coasting on past momentum. Failing to innovate and failing to capitalize on innovations like Kinect. Touting strategic and market success when youre just experiencing your competitors stumbling failure (yes, Sony, Nintendo you are, Im afraid, stumbling failures). A complete lack of tactical versus strategic understanding of the long game of the living room. It culminated for me in recent coverage1 of interviews with Yusef Mehdi and Nancy Tellem and reports of the goals of a new LA xBox studio to create interactive content.

Which brings us to

Apple is already a games competitor broadly, even if Apple-TV isnt yet a game platform or a console. Mobile generally and iPad specifically have grown the total hours of game play and grown the overall game market. Only in the last 18-24mo has that overall growth turned from a segment-expanding rising tide to a tsunami swamping the console game vendor profit boats hitched to the docks. It is accelerating. Apple, if it chooses to do so, will simply kill Playstation, Wii-U and xBox by introducing an open 30%-cut app/game ecosystem for Apple-TV. I already make a lot of money on iOS I will be the first to write apps for Apple-TV when I can, and I know Ill make money. I would for xBox if I could and I knew I would make money. Maybe a console-capable Apple-TV isnt $99, maybe its $199, and add another $79 for a controller. The current numbers already say a lot, even with Apple-TV not already an open console: 5.3M sold units in 2012, 90% year-over-year growth vs. xBox 360 about 9M units in 2012, 60% YoY decline.musicalmac

Much more in the blog post, another delicious opinion regarding the state of the traditional console industry -- and how Apple is always there, watching, waiting.... Remember what Gabe said not too long ago about the AppleTV? How interesting we get another opinion that's focused on the game console and not the PC.

Delicious.

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] Yeah, truly a sad scene. I just shrug it off. Pete-B

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

battlefieldfan4

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

Stop lying. The Apple fanbase is the worse. Apple is just another dell. They go around "shopping" for parts from Samsung and other manufacturers. Then they assemble the parts together, hike up the price and then claim said device is magical.

[QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] Far from it(or I like to think so), I'm currently using an android phone as my daily driver. Out there in the world(not the internet)I've experienced a few apple fanatics, but it truly pales in comparison to what I've experienced from the windows crowd.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

clyde46

Stop lying. The Apple fanbase is the worse. Apple is just another dell. They go around "shopping" for parts from Samsung and other manufacturers. Then they assemble the parts together, hike up the price and then claim said device is magical.

I hate them because they lie and make things up.

The retina display was engineered by Samsung and LG, NOT Apple. Yet, no matter how many facts you throw at Apple fans, they keep denying it and claiming Apple was the one who engineered the retina display. The only thing Apple did was ask Samsung and LG to design a 4" screen with a certain resolution. Samsung and LG were free to use whichever manufacturing technology they owned to make the screens. That's why the Samsung retina was superior to LG's. The retina screens were different technology; one was made using Samsung's tech and the other using LG's tech. Accoding to iSheep logic, ordering a large pizza from Papa John's is equivalent to you engineering the pizza.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

Stop lying. The Apple fanbase is the worse. Apple is just another dell. They go around "shopping" for parts from Samsung and other manufacturers. Then they assemble the parts together, hike up the price and then claim said device is magical.

battlefieldfan4

I hate them because they lie and make things up.

The retina display was engineered by Samsung and LG, NOT Apple. Yet, no matter how many facts you throw at Apple fans, they keep denying it and claiming Apple was the one who engineered the retina display. 

[QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] And this is why Apple users hate Windows users. I don't get why you hate on someone just because they like to spend their money on a Mac....clyde46

I hate them because they lie and make things up.

The retina display was engineered by Samsung and LG, NOT Apple. Yet, no matter how many facts you throw at Apple fans, they keep denying it and claiming Apple was the one who engineered the retina display. 

LOL... Dude, you don't get it, do you? I also have a problem with Apple stealing credit from other companies' technology. You can be sure if intel didn't have such a huge clout in the CPU market, Apple would try to force intel to rename the i7 processors in the macs to the "Apple premium A36 processor".

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

I hate them because they lie and make things up.

The retina display was engineered by Samsung and LG, NOT Apple. Yet, no matter how many facts you throw at Apple fans, they keep denying it and claiming Apple was the one who engineered the retina display. 

battlefieldfan4

LOL... Dude, you don't get it, do you? I also have a problem with Apple stealing credit from other companies' technology. You can be sure if intel didn't have such a huge clout in the CPU market, Apple would try to force intel to rename the i7 processors in the macs to the "Apple premium A36 processor".

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

my sympathies as long your not an elitist.

clyde46

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

Just curious to know what changed to make you feel that way? 

[QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Gratz on taking a tiny proportion of the user base. Yes, I know that Apple users are some of the most loyal but most don't even care. clyde46

LOL... Dude, you don't get it, do you? I also have a problem with Apple stealing credit from other companies' technology. You can be sure if intel didn't have such a huge clout in the CPU market, Apple would try to force intel to rename the i7 processors in the macs to the "Apple premium A36 processor".

They raised an army of annoying iSheeps.

Post-PC era baby. But the outdated desktop users don't want to hear it in their cave.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Pete-B"] Far from it(or I like to think so), I'm currently using an android phone as my daily driver. Out there in the world(not the internet)I've experienced a few apple fanatics, but it truly pales in comparison to what I've experienced from the windows crowd.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

Pete-B

Just curious to know what changed to make you feel that way? 

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

LOL... Dude, you don't get it, do you? I also have a problem with Apple stealing credit from other companies' technology. You can be sure if intel didn't have such a huge clout in the CPU market, Apple would try to force intel to rename the i7 processors in the macs to the "Apple premium A36 processor".

battlefieldfan4

They raised an army of annoying iSheeps.

[QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] What did Apple do to you personally? All I see is someone who is angry that people are buying Apple products that you cannot afford. Yes Apple has some dodgy business practices but what company doesn't... I'm not trying to defend Apple as I have also questioned their patent trolling but at the end of the day, I don't care. clyde46

They raised an army of annoying iSheeps.

How? It was the dream of the late used car salesman Steve Jobs to build a cult.

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I found that general Apple users tend to keep to themselves. I also use a Android (Galaxy S2) and I wouldnt trade it for an iPhone as I hate iOS6 on my iPad 3.clyde46

Just curious to know what changed to make you feel that way? 

so you can play low budget ios games on your tv? Unless they invest in core games they will never be a threat to consoles.

[QUOTE="quebec946"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

All the cool kids buy Apple products.

I'd buy an Apple Mac laptop or "Macbook" but I don't go out to drink coffee.

Pete-B

[QUOTE="battlefieldfan4"]

[QUOTE="Pete-B"] Far from it(or I like to think so), I'm currently using an android phone as my daily driver. Out there in the world(not the internet)I've experienced a few apple fanatics, but it truly pales in comparison to what I've experienced from the windows crowd.

The most crazy apple fanatics I've seen are on the apple insider site, a large portion of those guys are bat**** crazy for apple, and will never acknowledged any other device if it isn't made by apple. Hell I stopped participating in the forum, because anything positive about android, was like comiting a crime.

clyde46

Stop lying. The Apple fanbase is the worse. Apple is just another dell. They go around "shopping" for parts from Samsung and other manufacturers. Then they assemble the parts together, hike up the price and then claim said device is magical.

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

All the cool kids buy Apple products.

I'd buy an Apple Mac laptop or "Macbook" but I don't go out to drink coffee.

musicalmac

Post-PC era baby. But the outdated desktop users don't want to hear it in their cave.

Mr_BillGates

I'm not so sure. I use to be a huge Mac head, but they've fallen out of favor with me as time has gone on the past few years.

Plus the console would be absurdly expensive. Especially the accessories and peripherals.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Do not want. Apple products are overpriced simply because they have an apple logo. High end android costs less than iphone yet does much more.

RR360DD

Credibility shot. Unless you've used the OS recently, you really shouldn't make statements like this. I don't even love my Galaxy Nexus, but why the hell would I (or anyone) want or choose a Blackberry over a top of the line Android phone.

apple probably would have bought sony if they thought there was any value left in the playstation brand. :(

KarateeeChop

apple probably would have bought sony if they thought there was any value left in the playstation brand. :(

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Post-PC era baby. But the outdated desktop users don't want to hear it in their cave.

MBirdy88

apple probably would have bought sony if they thought there was any value left in the playstation brand. :(

KarateeeChop

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Post-PC era baby. But the outdated desktop users don't want to hear it in their cave.

MBirdy88

Apple's doing good with the way they're going. They don't need to get into the console business. 

lol microsoft vs apple

I agree 110%. If Apple got into the console buisness, sony and microsoft game divisions would retire. The only one who could stand a chance is maybe nintendo. 

So? Games will still exist. 

[QUOTE="genfactor"]Um... no. Nintendo... well the Genesis was supposed to destroy the SNES, Gamegear was supposed to destroy the Gameboy, N64 was supposed to be Nintendo's last system after Sony destoyed them, Gamecube was really supposed to be Nintendo's last system after Microsft destroyed them, after predictions of not selling more than 5 million units in its entire life time the Wii and its underpowered gimmick was supposed to really really be Nintendo's last system, the DS was suppose to be destroyed by the PSP, the 3DS was supposed to be destroyed by mobile devices, Wii U doing better than 360 and PS3 at this stage in their cycle is proof Wii U is doomed because it's selling slower than the original Wii wich means the new Sony and Microsoft machines will finally destroy Nintendo... for really really real this time... unless Apple chooses to do it first? I've been gaming long enough not to make blanket "Nintendo is doomed" claims no matter who steps into the ring or what strange ideas Nintendo inflicts on us through their devices. Microsoft... will be fine. They can be casual and hardcore at the same time. They will get the hardcore games and they will have the hardware to run them. Sony... is pretty much klling themselves. They have the hardware, they have the software but something about the company seems financially sick. Apple... They'll just be another competitor. They may be dominant in their field but the mobil market is starting to show that they are not invincible. The big 3 can compete with them but can Apple compete with a potential steam box?Rayne718

Apple isn't powerful. The only thing they have is an army of rabid fanboys. If you want to talk about power, look at Samsung. Just look at how Apple is struggling to replace Samsung.

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wis3boi

Looks fake, to many buttons on the controller:P

Nopes chance in hell :lol:

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Apple isnt a bunch of kids who would buy strugling companies just to have bragging rights on SW.

1. They answer to share holders who would have to agree to buy said assets

2. The assest they would try to aquire would have share holders that would need to agree to the acquisition.

Nothing about the industry in the past or present leads me to believe that most of those companies would sell to Apple. Nor would Apple share holders want to pay for most of them.

The truth is that recent sales of "i" products (while good) is not where it used to be.

musicalmac

Actually no they dont. When looking at the buyout rate of a company you cant just look at the market cap value.  Apple for an example has about $135 billion dollars in cash. So they could buy the market cap of the company and become majority share holders .  But they would also need the money to buy all the assets and debt of the company as well.  Lets take Sony for an example.  The companys market value is only 14 billion.  But if you count there buildings, patents and other assets they are worth around 166 billion dollars.  So to be frank, Apple cant even buy Sony much less all the other companies on that list combined.  Then theres the fact that even if they could the Japanese would never sell there most prized companys to apple.