Wii 2 in 2011, would you buy it?

Lets say a Wii 2 comes out for Holidays 2011 with the following realistic reatures:

- Full Wii BC

- HD graphics, more powerfull than the Ps3/360, but not as big as it could be in the next gen. Think PsOne to DC, instead of PsOne to Xbox.

- Improved online, but not quite as full featured as XBL but free.

- Improved wii-remore that makes it at least as good as Move for motion tracking. (the curent Wii-remote is better at pointing).

- $300-350.

- As third party support, mostly up-ports from the 360/Ps3 at launch.

- Good first party support for launch, but not big titles as a new Galaxy or Zelda (at launch).

I hate hypothetical questions.

I hate hypothetical questions.

Javy03

I''m mostly just bored of this gen and ready for new stuff.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

I hate hypothetical questions.

loco145

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

I hate hypothetical questions.

loco145

I agree and will be disappointed if it is isn't at least announced next year.

I''m mostly just bored of this gen and ready for new stuff.

dovberg

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

I hate hypothetical questions.

dovberg

I agree and will be disappointed if it is isn't at least announced next year.

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

Mystic-G

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

nintendo-4life

You honestly think it's not the Wii-gimmick + graphics? :| Wow

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

loco145

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

[QUOTE="loco145"] Is actually a very realistic scenario. i would be surprised if it isn't announced the next year.Bread_or_Decide

I agree and will be disappointed if it is isn't at least announced next year.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Nintendo won't use the Wii-mote again. They won't put their money on it hoping the gimmick lasts. There's already a Wii-HD, it's called Playstation Move and it's failing to appeal to same crowd like the Wii did. Wii 2 would not have the same effect and definitely would never sell nearly as well as the original did. If casual gamers wanted graphics they wouldn't be playing the Wii.

Nintendo is gonna come up with a new idea that will re-attract the same audience they captured with the Wii. Unfortunately, not all of us have been blessed with the brain to imagine something new aside from better hardware.

Mystic-G

You honestly think it's not the Wii-gimmick + graphics? :| Wow

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dovberg"]

I agree and will be disappointed if it is isn't at least announced next year.

loco145

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

I''m mostly just bored of this gen and ready for new stuff.

Bread_or_Decide

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Wii2 would barely be a leap forward. Nothing better than what the PS3 and 360 offer graphics wise. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dovberg"]

I''m mostly just bored of this gen and ready for new stuff.

dovberg

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dovberg"]

I''m mostly just bored of this gen and ready for new stuff.

dovberg

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="loco145"] No, that's not right. By Next year, even Netbooks will have 360's like graphic power. Nintendo would really had to work hard in order to design something that is not a generation leap from the 360.loco145

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I doubt the new stuff will entice you if you're already bored just as this gen finally got good. I think you just want to buy something shiney and new. Launch titles for new consoles suck. You really in a rush to wait another five years for good games?Airacomet

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] You honestly think Move is the successor of Wii? Wow :|Airacomet

You honestly think it's not the Wii-gimmick + graphics? :| Wow

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I think Nintendo would be happy to just match PS3 graphics and improve the wiimote and thats it. Whatever is most cost effective for them. They don't push technology forward. Just look at the 3DS. It's just the PSP with 3D.

Bread_or_Decide

I'll never purchase a Nintendo product, ever again. 360 and my PC are all I need. Besides, I'm over 12 and there's nothing like the XBL experience on any Nintendo machine.1MM3NS1TY

[QUOTE="1MM3NS1TY"]I'll never purchase a Nintendo product, ever again. 360 and my PC are all I need. Besides, I'm over 12 and there's nothing like the XBL experience on any Nintendo machine.Airacomet

[QUOTE="Airacomet"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

You honestly think it's not the Wii-gimmick + graphics? :| Wow

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="loco145"] You are wrong. The 3DS is more powerful than a PSP. Is not a PSP with 3DS. loco145

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I doubt the new stuff will entice you if you're already bored just as this gen finally got good. I think you just want to buy something shiney and new. Launch titles for new consoles suck. You really in a rush to wait another five years for good games?Bread_or_Decide

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

I guess it's more about wanting Nintendo to have something new. Those are all excellent titles but they could be more next gen.

Even if the average lifespan of previous Nintendo consoles is any indication (an average of 5 years between generations), a predecessor to the Wii might be announced in 2011 - but I wouldn't expect a release - especially when the system is still selling as well as it is, and the 3DS on the way - they can sit back longer before an announcement. You also mention HD graphics, but if the Wii is any indication, there's enough of an audience who don't seem to have graphics as their number 1 priority.Stinger78

Is not a priority for many people, but if Nintendo want to fix their Wii problems (lack of third party support) they need to use modern hardware, which implies HD graphics.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="dovberg"]

The good stuff might not be right away but almost everything is sequels right now and as much as I enjoy those particular IPs I think they will be able to push them further next gen.

dovberg

I guess it's more about wanting Nintendo to have something new. Those are all excellent titles but they could be more next gen.

[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Looks the same to me. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="dovberg"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Bayonetta, Vanquish, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, and so many more downlodable titles availble that are great and not sequels. You gotta dig deep but I prefer that to starting a new gen just to wait for good games. Bread_or_Decide

I guess it's more about wanting Nintendo to have something new. Those are all excellent titles but they could be more next gen.

I have to admit I totally love Red Steel 2 and the No More Heroes series(Muramasa looks cool too but I don't have it), but there is far more on the other systems. I guess I also have to mention I'm a major graphics whore and when I notice such a huge difference between ps3 and pc it makes me want a new gen.

[QUOTE="Airacomet"][QUOTE="1MM3NS1TY"]I'll never purchase a Nintendo product, ever again. 360 and my PC are all I need. Besides, I'm over 12 and there's nothing like the XBL experience on any Nintendo machine.loco145

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="loco145"] Then you see wrong. Very, but very wrong. Starting for the fact that the 3DS can support shaders of the level of Dx9 and even some Dx10 features. Per pixel lighting and self shadowing? Even the Xbox has problems doing that at the level the 3DS is doing it. PSP has no hope of being in the same tier.

loco145

I hate Nintendo's consoles and Platformers,so no.Never.Ratchet_Fan8

Why does someone who's name is Ratchet_Fan say they hate platformers?

Reasons why the Wii-mote won't return....
1) The hype over it is over with and definitely will have minimal wow-factor next time around
2) 3rd party titles fail to make use of it
3) Nintendo's first party titles are starting to cut back on its use. (Playing sideways with the wand? C'mon, might aswell use the c1assic controller.)
4) Playstation Move hurt Nintendo's chances of wow-ing the audience with merely better graphics.

If one thing we can all agree on is that Nintendo isn't predictable which keeps them two steps ahead a lot of times. A Wii 2 would be a massive mistake to make. Nintendo will NOT recapture the same audience they caught with the Wii by introducing a upgrade of a ongoing gimmick. If anything Nintendo is gonna work on ways they can implement family/party play better while giving that fresh smell to the product. Something that's gonna make the consumer go "Wow, I never tried something like that before."

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] When I see what current PSP games are offering I don't see the 3DS as being that impressive. SFIV looks pixelated. Kid Icarus looks just as good as any PSP game to me. Even comparing the two MGS games I think they look the same. Peace Walker and Snake Eater 3D look identical. Chains of Olympus looks as good as any 3DS game show cased so far and the new GOW for PSP looks even better. The technical specs may tell one story but the actual games tell another. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="loco145"] Then you see wrong. Very, but very wrong. Starting for the fact that the 3DS can support shaders of the level of Dx9 and even some Dx10 features. Per pixel lighting and self shadowing? Even the Xbox has problems doing that at the level the 3DS is doing it. PSP has no hope of being in the same tier.

loco145

SS43d is actually just low res and it looks great in motion. MGS3 is usually looked at as one of PS2s best looking game(if not the best) and there are noticeable improvements between ps2 and 3ds. I always remember my friends telling me how great that graphics were for FFX last gen and I had my xbox and just laughed, seems about the same.