Why the Wii is not a plausible choice for serious gamers

First off, a preface:

I have played at least a little bit of all three systems. Each is, in its own way, a really cool device, and I'd buy every one if I had the money. However, I think that the Nintendo Wii has been getting some undue attention in the XB360 and PS3's arena. The wii is nothing like the these two systems. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Why?

Here we go:

Reason #1 - No dual joysticks. In order to play some games, especially shooters, you need to have two joysticks. One for the camera, and one for control. Using the controller's motion sensing to aim is not a substitute, because it's not as accurate.

Reason #2 - Games are about escapism. The whole point of using joystick and buttons controller is to find a portal between the world you live in and the world you want to experience. The Wii's vague approximations of a gun, a tennis racket, a golf club, or a steering wheel, although fun, are a distracting compromise between real world and dream world.

Reason #3 - Nintendo has long been kid game directed. Though this works great for party games and some RPGs, its focus on kid games has led to limited development of FPS's and other more mature games.

Reason #4 - The Wii is seriously underpowered. This issue might not make a difference to sugar-high kids or hip senior citizens, but graphical performance is important in creating complex AI, immersive worlds, etc.

In Conclusion:

The Wii, although it can be a lot of fun, is not a serious gaming machine. The PS3 and XB360 are much better choices in this regard. Parcheesi and Chess are both fun boardgames, but which one is truly strategic in nature?  

Im a serious gamer and I chose Wii

/thread

First off, a preface:

I have played at least a little bit of all three systems. Each is, in its own way, a really cool device, and I'd buy every one if I had the money. However, I think that the Nintendo Wii has been getting some undue attention in the XB360 and PS3's arena. The wii is nothing like the these two systems. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Why?

Here we go:

Reason #1 - No dual joysticks. In order to play some games, especially shooters, you need to have two joysticks. One for the camera, and one for control. Using the controller's motion sensing to aim is not a substitute, because it's not as accurate.

Reason #2 - Games are about escapism. The whole point of using joystick and buttons controller is to find a portal between the world you live in and the world you want to experience. The Wii's vague approximations of a gun, a tennis racket, a golf club, or a steering wheel, although fun, are a distracting compromise between real world and dream world.

Reason #3 - Nintendo has long been kid game directed. Though this works great for party games and some RPGs, its focus on kid games has led to limited development of FPS's and other more mature games.

Reason #4 - The Wii is seriously underpowered. This issue might not make a difference to sugar-high kids or hip senior citizens, but graphical performance is important in creating complex AI, immersive worlds, etc.

In Conclusion:

The Wii, although it can be a lot of fun, is not a serious gaming machine. The PS3 and XB360 are much better choices in this regard. Parcheesi and Chess are both fun boardgames, but which one is truly strategic in nature?

Mintshebang

First off, a preface:

I have played at least a little bit of all three systems. Each is, in its own way, a really cool device, and I'd buy every one if I had the money. However, I think that the Nintendo Wii has been getting some undue attention in the XB360 and PS3's arena. The wii is nothing like the these two systems. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Why?

Here we go:

Reason #1 - No dual joysticks. In order to play some games, especially shooters, you need to have two joysticks. One for the camera, and one for control. Using the controller's motion sensing to aim is not a substitute, because it's not as accurate. Look at MP3

Reason #2 - Games are about escapism. The whole point of using joystick and buttons controller is to find a portal between the world you live in and the world you want to experience. The Wii's vague approximations of a gun, a tennis racket, a golf club, or a steering wheel, although fun, are a distracting compromise between real world and dream world. Opinion

Reason #3 - Nintendo has long been kid game directed. Though this works great for party games and some RPGs, its focus on kid games has led to limited development of FPS's and other more mature games. If you don't like games like Mario, Starfox, Metroid, Project Hammer, No more heroes, RE:UC, Fire Emblem, Disaster, Battalion Wars, DK, SSBB, SSX, Sadness, Dragon Quest, and many others has no relation to weather you are a serious gamer or not

Reason #4 - The Wii is seriously underpowered. This issue might not make a difference to sugar-high kids or hip senior citizens, but graphical performance is important in creating complex AI, immersive worlds, etc. If the graphics of a game are that important to you, I think your the one who needs a serious gamer check

In Conclusion:

The Wii, although it can be a lot of fun, is not a serious gaming machine. The PS3 and XB360 are much better choices in this regard. Parcheesi and Chess are both fun boardgames, but which one is truly strategic in nature?  lol so much for that argumentMintshebang

Im a serious gamer and I chose Wii

/thread

nintendogamer6

I'm a serious gamer too, and I love the Wii. 

Look, I've played the Wii a lot at my friend's house, and I've seen enough games to realize that the Wii is working at on a different level than XB360 and PS3. The graphics are worse, the controller is completely different, and there are few good shooters for the Wii. The PS3 has Resistance, and Metal Gear later, and XB360 has GeOW, Lost Planet, Halo 3 in the fall, but what non-ported FPS does the Wii have?

Furthermore, the controller's motion sensing implementation in games ranges anywhere from useless (Marvel Ultimate Alliance) to Hyperaccurate (Excite Truck), leaving gamers unsure of when to trust it and when not to. Marvel Ultimate Alliance's poor motion implementation already suggests to me that ports to the Wii will not be of the same quality as in the past.

Look, I've played the Wii a lot at my friend's house, and I've seen enough games to realize that the Wii is working at on a different level than XB360 and PS3. The graphics are worse, the controller is completely different, and there are few good shooters for the Wii. The PS3 has Resistance, and Metal Gear later, and XB360 has GeOW, Lost Planet, Halo 3 in the fall, but what non-ported FPS does the Wii have?

Furthermore, the controller's motion sensing implementation in games ranges anywhere from useless (Marvel Ultimate Alliance) to Hyperaccurate (Excite Truck), leaving gamers unsure of when to trust it and when not to. Marvel Ultimate Alliance's poor motion implementation already suggests to me that ports to the Wii will not be of the same quality as in the past.

Mintshebang

Yea your a real serious gamer :roll:

According to the topic creator, artificial intelligence is directly correlated to graphical power. Do you think he has any credibility?ZebethOrZebes

hey dude, he's saying that the guts of a machine is closely related to the strength of AI. That's being way too picky on your part, and you know what he meant.

Why this thread is not a plausible choice for advice: The TC hasn't a clue what he's talking about.ithilgore2006

SHUT UP ALL U SHEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT REAL GAMERS JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!1!1!ONE

You need to understand that you are not a serious gamer. Why? Because you buy Nintendo games. Nintendo games are about sitting down and having fun. Let's take... say.... a game from EPIC. That's a game that will A. Get you wrapped up in competition B. Have you seriously pissed off at other people by the end of the match and C. Have you staring in awe at the magnificence of a player model/game world.

These are things that the Wii will NEVER do. The Wii will provide you with some fun physical activity, and maybe a cute Nintendo game here and there, but never the visceral, pulse-pounding action of a hardcore shooter on the 360/PC/PS3.

pyoob

Im a serious gamer and I chose Wii

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nintendogamer6

Why a serious gamer shouldn't care what you said: Games are made for entertainment.t2wave

Serious gamers? Serious gamers play all consoles.Kikouken

Agree with you. Different consoles mean different offers. You can't possibly try to rule EVERY system with a single criteria, that is a certain sign of fanboyism.

These are things that the Wii will NEVER do. The Wii will provide you with some fun physical activity, and maybe a cute Nintendo game here and there, but never the visceral, pulse-pounding action of a hardcore shooter on the 360/PC/PS3.

pyoob

Does it have to be a shooter?

Does it have to be a shooter?Stabby2486

SHUT UP ALL U SHEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT REAL GAMERS JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!1!1!ONE

You need to understand that you are not a serious gamer. Why? Because you buy Nintendo games. Nintendo games are about sitting down and having fun. Let's take... say.... a game from EPIC. That's a game that will A. Get you wrapped up in competition B. Have you seriously pissed off at other people by the end of the match and C. Have you staring in awe at the magnificence of a player model/game world.

These are things that the Wii will NEVER do. The Wii will provide you with some fun physical activity, and maybe a cute Nintendo game here and there, but never the visceral, pulse-pounding action of a hardcore shooter on the 360/PC/PS3.

pyoob

A serious gamer? What exactly is a serious gamer? A person that takes game too seriously? A pro? Someone who plays a lot of games? It actually does not matter which it is, because nothing that you have listed means that a serious gamer should not play a Wii.Hobbies230

Im a serious gamer and I chose Wii

/thread

nintendogamer6

Not exactly a shooter, but a high-end racing game, not just Excite Truck. Possibly even a great action RPG like TES: Oblivion or Crackdown (yes I'll call it an RPG because you build skills).

I'm a serious gamer,I chose the Wii as my primary and only console,and I will enjoy it.

I really find it annoying when you guys say the Wii is not a console for true gamers........

Serious gamers? Serious gamers play all consoles.Kikouken

[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

Im a serious gamer and I chose Wii

/thread

JayPee89

First off, a preface:

I have played at least a little bit of all three systems. Each is, in its own way, a really cool device, and I'd buy every one if I had the money. However, I think that the Nintendo Wii has been getting some undue attention in the XB360 and PS3's arena. The wii is nothing like the these two systems. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Why?

Here we go:

Reason #1 - No dual joysticks. In order to play some games, especially shooters, you need to have two joysticks. One for the camera, and one for control. Using the controller's motion sensing to aim is not a substitute, because it's not as accurate.

 

Mintshebang

[QUOTE="Kikouken"]Serious gamers? Serious gamers play all consoles.ELJUDEZ

well all ur reasons point to gettin a pc, except for dual analog but real hard core ppl do game pc with mouse and keyboardtmgwarrior72