Why is Sony the only one still putting out challenging exclusives?

Yeah, new IPs again and again, yet look at most of their past IPs that no longer exist or in development.

e.g. Resistance, Motorstorm, Wipeout, Twisted Metal, SOCOM.. etc.

They (desperately) need new IPs because there's absolutely NOTHING of quality that's viable or sustainable on their line up.

At the end of the day, the Playstation platform has always thrived on 3rd party support. Something Cows don't seem to understand (or they're too stupid, likely the case) and can't seem to sink into their skulls.

"bu..bu...but teh exclusives matters!!"

I found Bayonetta hard. I mean I got through the game okay but I only got stone and bronze ratings on the majority of the levels.

It's a very hard game to master. I got platinum on maybe the first two stages? That's about it. :P

Would you rather I said 'that's the beauty of games in general'?

Geez, dude. I was just pointing an aspect out. It's not like that's the only thing Bloodborne's got going for it.

@Pedro: It will actually be nice to know how much COD sold on ps4 alone for the year. I expect it to sell more then UC4 as it is the most popular game and genre everywhere. Even that I don't think it sold like 20 million judging by the Pokemon sells. It also sells very well on xboxone with even better attach rate there globally speaking. the split is probably a mill or two ps4.

I wouldn't be suprised if UC4 with its bundles is the best selling game on ps4. On the other hand games like Bloodborne and Nioh especially they probably celebrate if they just sell 2 million copies. Nioh is probably budgeted to sell only that without UC4, COD marketing and tech. Also realistically that is the audiences for those games. They are really not expecting these game to compete with COD but still highlight and give them some marketing space. They are making or collaborating on such projects to try and expand audiences, sometimes this is the purpose of exclusives. As silly as it is Scalebound would have sold more xboxes especially in japan even if it just for several thousands.

I think that's right. As long as there is a niche fanbase for it, hopefully these kinds of games stick around.

and I was pointing out the stupidity of your logic.

Epic BS you talking

Explain this then.

2016 Top 10 Games

1. Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - Multi
2. Battlefield 1- Multi
3. The Division- Multi
4. NBA 2K17- Multi
5. Madden NFL 17- Multi
6. Grand Theft Auto V- Multi
7. Overwatch (no Battle.net sales)- Multi
8. Call of Duty: Black Ops III- Multi
9. FIFA 17- Multi
10. Final Fantasy XV- Multi

Common respect is a nice thing, you know.

I love you.

looks like someone doesn't play Nintendo games

Um, we're in system wars.

Don't have one. If I did I'd probably only play old NES games on it. ;)

Sadly, the ClosedStation has no games and no exclusives.

But Sony has nothing to do with Nioh. It's like saying Nintendo put out Bravely Default or Monster Hunter, just because the game is on their system.

DK and Mario 3D World were freakishly difficult too. Sony is not the only one putting out challenging exclusives by any measure. In fact, most Soy exclusives, like Killzone, The Order, and Uncharted, flat out play themselves for large sections of the game.

No, we're in this world. The illusion that you can respectfully decline respect to others just because you are in an internet forum is just that, an illusion.

Again, I love you. Good day.

@reduc_ab_:

Oh that's a shame. There are some really wonderful and imaginitive games on it.

Personally I'm a sicker for the SNES; ;)

You do know that repeating it doesn't make it true.

Difficulty is subjective and to me complexity is more of a measure of difficulty than a Souls type game that's just learning the pattern and repeating it until you get it right. To me that's artificial difficulty.

Log into Forza 6 get into a multiplayer race and finish 1st.

Or log into Killer Instinct in ranked mode and win 5 games in a row.

Or wait til Halo Wars 2 comes out and 1v1 someone good in the full game mode not blitz and beat them.

All three of these things are actually extremely difficult.

I'm not particularly fond of the Souls games. And it's not because they are 'too hard' it's because in the 80s this format was pretty much how ALL games were in the pre checkpoint era and I've been there and done that to death.

I mostly now play PvP games because I feel that the complexity of real human opponents makes games more challenging than 1-hit mechanics.

Having a game be exclusive to your console and simultaneously not having anything to do with said game is quite the trick.

Living life as a bargain basement troll cannot be as satisfying as you seem intent on making it seem.

Yes, it involves the third party independently deciding to put the game only on your system, after balancing development budgets and audience sizes. Such a wonderful trick!

GTAs, CoDs, Maddens, NBA2Ks all thrive on the PS4 (and XB1) platforms. Those vast majority of those 54million PS4 users are definitely NOT getting an orgasm out of those variety (aka Japanese games) you Cows seem to boast about. You remove 1/4 of those Japanese titles away from the PS4 lineup and it WOULD NOT significantly hurt PS4 sales, I guarantee you that! It would hurt a very fickle Japanese gaming demographic but nothing earth shattering. Not when there's a North and South American and European market.

Oh you.

Epic denial you're showing.

@Pedro said:

@kvally said:

Sadly, the ClosedStation has no games and no exclusives.

You do know that repeating it doesn't make it true.

SW rule #1: A lie is a lie, but a lie repeated is not a lie.

Just the old ones. One of my favorites (and, might I add, a prime example of the days when 'true difficulty' was the rule, not the exception):

What this proves exactly ? What is this TOP 10 haha !? Sales ?

Denial to what ?

You would have God of war if Sony was as lazy as MS or even Nintendo ? No ! Do you really want me to find all PS new IP exclusives since original PS1 and list them and make you cry ?

Youre full of BS , so much that i dont even know where to start

@reduc_ab_: your experience and dedication has helped me earn xp points. I look up to you and your troll topics that you create just like this one.

This thread is a perfect example of your wisdom. Hence your comment of "SW rule 1"

The question we all have is why you are not practicing what you preach? This thread put you 3 steps back into troll stardom.

Calling someone a liar doesn't bury your lie induced thread.

Silly topic is silly.

@Pedro: agreed which makes me wonder if the TC was coherent when making this thread.

.....aaaaaand the troll has been trolled.

Feels nice, huh?

@charizard1605: They aren't involved as they were with bloodborne but they are publishing the game in the west, they deserve a point for that.

Blood Borne and Nioh were very safe bets, Sony didn't prove a thing.

Their PS exclusive games are the best though, no question.

Precisely.

I love the butthurtism around here about the fact that SONY is the only console company out there that providing AAA caliber NEW IP exclusives over and over.

Why people getting upset over this fact , a god knows.

It makes your claim void. But you knew that. :)

Interesting... what are the top 10 Playstation 4 games currently?

I bet the list is 75% shooters/sports.

I gaurentee it.

@reduc_ab_: sooooo sweet!

My claim is a fact. Nothing more , nothing less.

You coming here to counter my point by showing me a top10 of 2016 games ... obviously talking about sales ! What this has to do with what im speaking of , go figure.

SONY is the only console maker in the market that tries new IPs in that extend every single generation. Doesnt matter if they sale 10M or 1M or if they score 1 or 10. It is what it is , theres no but or why or if to that. Period.

EDIT : Do you understand that some of the highest scored and highly acclaimed games out of all platforms each generation are NEW AAA exclusive IPs to SONY ? Isnt that a damn great thing ?

People keep saying this about games like Bloodborne but ... they praised Bayonetta 2 like its Nintendos or something and wasnt even NEW IP to begin with.

Personally i dont care if a NEW IP is coming from 1st or 2nd or 3rd parties ... a NEW AAA caliber exclusive IP is more than welcome whatever the case. Thats what drives me to buy a product.

Do Nintendo deserve a point for publishing Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, or Bravely Default in the west?

You mean buying challenging exclusives...

Do you understand what I was responding to?

At the end of the day, the Playstation platform has always thrived on 3rd party support. Something Cows don't seem to understand (or they're too stupid, likely the case) and can't seem to sink into their skulls.

This is not a BS statement. The top ten games of last year proves this statement to be true. That is a fact.

@kvally: Mwhaaa;)

cause UC4, until dawn, the order, killzone, infamous, etc were so challenging. bloodborne is basically dark souls and that's from software MO but for me personally I don't see them as challenging. they are very exploitable making it pretty easy but not fun and clunky. random deaths =/= challenge.

If you want a real challenge. go get the halo MCC and play halo 1-3 by yourself on legendary with all skulls

@reduc_ab_ said:

This gen, Bloodborne, and now Nioh. That's only two, granted, but at least they're putting them out. It's like the rest of the big three have thrown even the idea of hardcore gaming under the rug. And by hardcore I mean HARD. Is it that much to ask, give me a game once in a while that actually kicks my ass?

And I'm not talking about handhelds, so no Monster Hunter on 3DS (those games are pretty tough though from what I understand). Just straight up full exclusive games that tear you a new one. Aside from Sony's offerings, it is apparently a genre left in the past.

While good games they are, I'm am sorely missing the 'arcade' area of games that seems to be almost none existent in some genres: character action, hack and slash and racers. Challenging is fun, but I still wanna chill out sometimes and stylishly beat the shit out of things or race and purposefully crash to gain points(I want a new burnout game so bad).

Must you always make it a competition?

Yes, Nintendo deserves a point. Hell, make it plural. They deserve points. Happy?

Did you seriously just discount Bloodborne as being hard, and then replace it with Halo. Did you seriously just do that.

@darkangel115 said:

cause UC4, until dawn, the order, killzone, infamous, etc were so challenging. bloodborne is basically dark souls and that's from software MO but for me personally I don't see them as challenging. they are very exploitable making it pretty easy but not fun and clunky. random deaths =/= challenge.

If you want a real challenge. go get the halo MCC and play halo 1-3 by yourself on legendary with all skulls

@reduc_ab_ said:

This gen, Bloodborne, and now Nioh. That's only two, granted, but at least they're putting them out. It's like the rest of the big three have thrown even the idea of hardcore gaming under the rug. And by hardcore I mean HARD. Is it that much to ask, give me a game once in a while that actually kicks my ass?

And I'm not talking about handhelds, so no Monster Hunter on 3DS (those games are pretty tough though from what I understand). Just straight up full exclusive games that tear you a new one. Aside from Sony's offerings, it is apparently a genre left in the past.

No, because all the points awarded in this case are dumb and predicated on a facile point