Why is Conduit hyped so much? It looks generic

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#1 GodOfSpore
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I'm not going to pretend Xbox 360/PS3 don't have generic shooters as well (Area 51, Haze) but why are the sheep hyping Conduit like it's their Halo?

The developer hasn't made any major title that scored AAA (from what I can tell, they mostly make cheap ports) The story is about another bug invasion of the US.

The graphics at its best look pretty good but in other parts it looks really bad. Safe to say, hermits, cows and lemmings have nothing to worry about here.

good pic

uh, not so good...

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Because it's supposed to have good graphics for the Wii.

It kind of kills the "Gameplay over Graphics" statement the sheep has said all of this gen until now.

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#3 BladesOfAthena
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God that looks ugly. I've seen better looking Xbox shooters.
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#4 BudsMcGreen
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God that looks ugly. I've seen better looking Xbox shooters.BladesOfAthena

Yeah, like Riddick. Or even Doom 3. I don't think the Wii can handle stencil shadows and normal/bump-mapped textures.

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#5 Sword-Demon
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its supposed to be generic. the wii has barely any shooters on it, while the ps3 and 360 have tons and tons of them. so while multi console owners may see it as stupid, a wii only owner may be looking at it with a lot of anticipation. i was very exited for this game before i decided to get a ps3. now, not so much.

HV is just trying to bring a generic shooter to those who dont have any.

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#6 SpinoRaptor24
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People are hyping that?
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#7 MetroidPrimePwn
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Nobody is hyping this except the ones who are REALLY desperate for some Wii shooters.
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#8 Rodneythepom
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So long as it controls well, I could care less about the graphics. I accepted the Wii was never going to be a graphic powerhouse when it launched.
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#9 TreyoftheDead
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It's really not that hyped. =/
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#10 Timstuff
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Well, it can't possibly be as bad Geist, and Nintendo fanboys have been starving for a first person shooter ever since it was discovered that "Perfect Dark 2" would never see the light of day on a Nintendo system, and that Red Steel was actually a great big pile of red poop.
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#11 killerfist
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I guess people hype it (is it even hyped?:?) because it's supposed to be a good addition to the Wii library. I think the Wii is in need of some good shooters.
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#12 elbow2k
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Good.. GOD! Look at those gun models!?!? They can't be serious with this game!?!?
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#13 MetalRX78
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The Wii's real time motion controls will make you feel like you're in the game in real life. The graphics are pushing Wii to the limits. It will have online and voice chat. I'm hyping AAAA Halo and Killzone 2 killer
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#14 BladesOfAthena
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I seem to recall some people in another board saying that this game looks like a X360 game LOL!....my ass!
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#15 Cyberfairy
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The Wii lack generic shooters; that's what makes this game so special.
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#16 Son_of_Some
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I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuch
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#17 BladesOfAthena
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I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchSon_of_Some

Controls don't mean **** if the game plays like garbage.

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I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchSon_of_Some

IGN praised the controls in their preview, which sounds like a very good thing. Gameplay and controls > graphics (for the wii, on xbox/ps3 you need all).

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[QUOTE="Son_of_Some"]I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchBladesOfAthena

Controls don't mean **** if the game plays like garbage.

and somehow you know this, how again?

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#20 BladesOfAthena
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[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

[QUOTE="Son_of_Some"]I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchCyberfairy

Controls don't mean **** if the game plays like garbage.

and somehow you know this, how again?

I didn't state that I know for a fact, hence the "if". I'm only saying as a hypothetical.

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#21 redmetal86
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the same reason everyone else has been hyping every other game this gen, even though theyre all pretty lackluster.
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#22 dylanmcc
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It's because it's the Wii's first exclusive online shooter, and people are excited.
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[QUOTE="Son_of_Some"]I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchCyberfairy

IGN praised the controls in their preview, which sounds like a very good thing. Gameplay and controls > graphics (for the wii, on xbox/ps3 you need all).

I'm not sure why people keep on stressing this point, as if the 2 are mutually exclusive. Simply put, there is no gameplay without graphics, because then how can one interact with what they cannot see? 

Games are a visual medium. Let's not pretend that graphics don't matter, because they do.

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#24 locopatho
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Don't know. Controls I suppose. That's pretty much all you can hype when 360/PS3 do everything else much better.
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#25 BladesOfAthena
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Don't know. Controls I suppose. That's pretty much all you can hype when 360/PS3 do everything else much better.locopatho

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Don't know. Controls I suppose. That's pretty much all you can hype when 360/PS3 do everything else much better.BladesOfAthena

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly. HV has put serious time and effort into this game. the visuals arent bad for a wii game (those screens are crap, there are some much better ones. but its not a 360/ps3 game, dont act like it should look like one.) it has some good new concepts to it (for example: one of the weapons allows you to use the remote to steer a missile). the controls are said to be flawless and fully customisable. so just wait for its release before you pass judgement.

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When you only have crackers to eat, you'll hype a meal of peanuts.
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

[QUOTE="Son_of_Some"]I'm hyped for the controlsm, which are superior to any other fps on consoles thankyouverymuchBladesOfAthena

IGN praised the controls in their preview, which sounds like a very good thing. Gameplay and controls > graphics (for the wii, on xbox/ps3 you need all).

I'm not sure why people keep on stressing this point, as if the 2 are mutually exclusive. Simply put, there is no gameplay without graphics, because then how can one interact with what they cannot see?

Games are a visual medium. Let's not pretend that graphics don't matter, because they do.

what would they not be able to see? its not an ugly game. your acting like people will mistake an alien for a box. ever play a FPS 2 gens ago? ever have any trouble seeing something? of course graphics matter to some degree, but gameplay/controls are much more important. and according to many many previews, thats where this game shines.

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#29 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Don't know. Controls I suppose. That's pretty much all you can hype when 360/PS3 do everything else much better.Sword-Demon

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

Wall of PWNAGE (Inseret MP3 Vs Any Console FPS/A)

Just mentioning MP3 against any other Console FPS/A in control scheme is just straight off OWNAGE to any debate(thumbs up). The Conduit seems to be doing a good job with controls which are 100% customisable, I think the reason why this is being hyped is because of the same reason as KZ2.
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#30 st1ka
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is it me or does the second pic look like a dreamcast game?
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[QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Don't know. Controls I suppose. That's pretty much all you can hype when 360/PS3 do everything else much better.Sword-Demon

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly.




Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?
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#32 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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looks like pdz with textures erased.
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#33 Ratchet_Fan8
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poor sheep..: ( *Sheep when the got the game * WOWZ! amazing! tis is better than any game on tah PS3 and 360 *Later....sheep buy PS3/360 and play G2/R2/L4D*AHAHAHAH! look at teh conduit! well.thats what my crystal ball says
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#34 Litchie
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I'm definitely not hyping it. It looks like the definition of generic. I still think it could be a fun game, though, and I want to try it. Why? It's an FPS on the Wii that's neither Metroid nor a multi-plat. I think it looks ok, but I'm not sure why developers (Nintendo aside) can't make their games look more than ok on the Wii.

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We're not hyping The Conduit. I know this because we're not hyping anything right now.

Or at least we shouldn't be hyping anything right now.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

RuinedMachine

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly.




Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?

Have you played it to have a opinion on whether or not its the weakest in the Trilogy or going off scores from GS? Many people have said the oppesite and enjoyed it more so than the orignal MP like I for instance.

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FPS games are inherently generic, that include Halo.
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#38 HarlockJC
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When was the last time there was a hype thread on this game? Maybe when some found it worked with the Wiichat but that was months ago.
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Its the only FPS planned for the Wii thats not COD or Metroid. They have to hype the only one they are getting.
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#40 Litchie
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FPS games are inherently generic, that include Halo.DaBrainz
Indeed. But since Halo got released before The Conduit, The Conduit is slightly more generic. :P
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="BladesOfAthena"]

Indeed. Its funny when people keep on harping that controls are superior when Resistance 2 is clearly a much better game than Red Steel. Oh the irony.

RuinedMachine

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly.




Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?

did i bring up anything but controls? i think not. while R2 my have gotten a slightly higher score, you cant honestly think the controls are better. youre nothing but a fanboy, there is no argument when it comes to controls.

you fail..

EDIT: and btw, any metroid fan will tell you that MP2 is the weakest in the trilogy.

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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

 

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly.

Dibdibdobdobo




Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?

Have you played it to have a opinion on whether or not its the weakest in the Trilogy or going off scores from GS? Many people have said the oppesite and enjoyed it more so than the orignal MP like I for instance.

 

 

Well obiousvly you would like it more.

But I've seen a lot more posts saying MP3 was lackluster compared to the first two MP masterpieces on the GC.

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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]FPS games are inherently generic, that include Halo.Litchie
Indeed. But since Halo got released before The Conduit, The Conduit is slightly more generic. :P

So Halo is more generic than Perfect Dark? We can go all day saying what came 1st .
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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

 

red steel was a launch title (devs didnt have much time to get it together or learn how to implement the motion controls) and almost any wii owner knows that the controls for it suck. your comparing a poorly made game to a well made game.. why? try comparing R2 controls to MP3 controls.. your argument fails, anyone who takes off their fanboy goggles can tell that the wii has superior controls to the ps3/360 when done correctly.

Sword-Demon




Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?

did i bring up anything but controls? i think not. while R2 my have gotten a slightly higher score, you cant honestly think the controls are better. youre nothing but a fanboy, there is no argument when it comes to controls.

you fail..

 

If the controls were so great wouldn't it reflect the score? I mean, if the controls are so much better than normal console gamepads, how come it's the weakest MP game in the franchise?

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#45 akif22
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there have been a few generic FPSs (not mentioning any names) that have been hyped massively by the fanboys this is just another example
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I'm buying this for my WII, it's meant to have good controls.
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="RuinedMachine"]


Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?RuinedMachine

Have you played it to have a opinion on whether or not its the weakest in the Trilogy or going off scores from GS? Many people have said the oppesite and enjoyed it more so than the orignal MP like I for instance.

 

 

Well obiousvly you would like it more.

But I've seen a lot more posts saying MP3 was lackluster compared to the first two MP masterpieces on the GC.

I liked it because it was less taxing on where to go than previous installments, Gameplay was rock solid, offered some unique puzzles which made you think. The bosses where the best in any game i've played. It was my favourite game of 2007! I dont know if the obvious comment is sarcasm or not but i'll let you off due to ignorance if it was.
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Why do people complain about generic games,but then go onto complain further when devs try to change the formula (Banjo N+B)
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="RuinedMachine"]


Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?RuinedMachine

did i bring up anything but controls? i think not. while R2 my have gotten a slightly higher score, you cant honestly think the controls are better. youre nothing but a fanboy, there is no argument when it comes to controls.

you fail..

If the controls were so great wouldn't it reflect the score? I mean, if the controls are so much better than normal console gamepads, how come it's the weakest MP game in the franchise?

omg how can you not realize that controls are 1 aspect of a game? i personally love MP1 much more than 3. does that mean i think the controls are better? no! the controls in MP3 are much better than in MP1.

the scores arent based just off of controls. did you know that?

EDIT: read the review, he raves about the controls in nearly every paragraph.

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#50 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="RuinedMachine"]


Is that why MP3 is the weakest game in the MP franchise? The only MP to fail to get AAA?

Is that why R2 got AAA and MP3 didn't?RuinedMachine

did i bring up anything but controls? i think not. while R2 my have gotten a slightly higher score, you cant honestly think the controls are better. youre nothing but a fanboy, there is no argument when it comes to controls.

you fail..

 

If the controls were so great wouldn't it reflect the score? I mean, if the controls are so much better than normal console gamepads, how come it's the weakest MP game in the franchise?

Not really. GTA4 comes to mind and got a 10/10 on here though many people say the controls suck ass. Sadly i dont think you have played MP3 to really judge how good or bad the controls are untill you play it yourself. Its not the weakest MP in the franchise so i dont know why you keep saying this. Average score for the game is 9/10 from reviews and 9/10 from gamers so if thats a weak game in a trilogy then i need to play more games which are weaker than previous installments lol.