So I played COD multiplayer for the first time in years. It's all twitch gaming. Fastest reflexes wins. I don't see where the skill comes in. Am I wrong?
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So I played COD multiplayer for the first time in years. It's all twitch gaming. Fastest reflexes wins. I don't see where the skill comes in. Am I wrong?
fast aiming is skill, are u talking about tactics??? Becuz i hate to break it to you, cods never been about tactics
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Reflex does not count as skill.lild1425
It counts as luck?
It counts as reflex. Reflex is reflex and skill is skill. Hence, the 2 different words.[QUOTE="lild1425"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Reflex does not count as skill.DudeNtheRoom
It counts as luck?
It counts as reflex. Reflex is reflex and skill is skill. Hence, the 2 different words.WTF is reflex isn't a skill than what the hell counts as skill? or if as you say as skill is a skill would be please define skill hereOops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
tagyhag
[QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced. Then how do you practice breathing techniques?[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="lild1425"]
It counts as luck?
It counts as reflex. Reflex is reflex and skill is skill. Hence, the 2 different words.You might be retarded in which case this might not make sense to you. This attribute can be classified only as luck or skill. If something is not skill, then it must be by complete chance which we can aptly describe as luck. The opposite of skill is not reflex. Nor can you say something is skill, luck, or reflex. It just doesn't make logical sense.
So many ppl in todays society read so much into things. You kids create and combine things that aren't even there b/c it "seems" true. Skill is volutary. Reflex is not. You can't practice to improve reflex. Aiming is a skill, b/c you can learn to adjust. It's volutary.[QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced. Then how do you practice breathing techniques? What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX.Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.[QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
DudeNtheRoom
Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
[QUOTE="lild1425"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] It counts as reflex. Reflex is reflex and skill is skill. Hence, the 2 different words.DudeNtheRoom
You might be retarded in which case this might not make sense to you. This attribute can be classified only as luck or skill. If something is not skill, then it must be by complete chance which we can aptly describe as luck. The opposite of skill is not reflex. Nor can you say something is skill, luck, or reflex. It just doesn't make logical sense.
So many ppl in todays society read so much into things. You kids create and combine things that aren't even there b/c it "seems" true. Skill is volutary. Reflex is not. You can't practice to improve reflex. Aiming is a skill, b/c you can learn to adjust. It's volutary.you can't practice to improve your reflexes? you've got to be kidding me...
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] So many ppl in todays society read so much into things. You kids create and combine things that aren't even there b/c it "seems" true. Skill is volutary. Reflex is not. You can't practice to improve reflex. Aiming is a skill, b/c you can learn to adjust. It's volutary. alextherussianWhat game in your opinion, within the shooter genre, is skill based? UT 2K3&4. You have to learn and practice to get the combos to become second nature. Tribes series. Flying, using projectile weapons, aiming from long distances all at the same time requires practice. COD is so small that usually the person who dies is unaware what even hit him. The games I mentioned allow (most of the time) both ppl to be ready to fight......which would require another to beat them using skill.
Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]
[QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
tagyhag
Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
Hey if he believes that everyone is born with a set of constant reflexes that never change all the more power to him. Pretty much limits him in any of his life endeavours as he can just blame it on biology.[QUOTE="lild1425"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] It counts as reflex. Reflex is reflex and skill is skill. Hence, the 2 different words.DudeNtheRoom
You might be retarded in which case this might not make sense to you. This attribute can be classified only as luck or skill. If something is not skill, then it must be by complete chance which we can aptly describe as luck. The opposite of skill is not reflex. Nor can you say something is skill, luck, or reflex. It just doesn't make logical sense.
So many ppl in todays society read so much into things. You kids create and combine things that aren't even there b/c it "seems" true. Skill is volutary. Reflex is not. You can't practice to improve reflex. Aiming is a skill, b/c you can learn to adjust. It's volutary.Please tell that to tennis players. While you're at it tell them that reflex isn't a skill and they'll laugh at you. The majority of that game is reflex. If reflex can't be practiced and improved then pretty everyone should be able to be a pro tennis player.
[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.Then how do you practice breathing techniques? What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX. You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath.DudeNtheRoom
[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.
alextherussian
Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
Hey if he believes that everyone is born with a set of constant reflexes that never change all the more power to him. Pretty much limits him in any of his life endeavours as he can just blame it on biology.Clearly the topic creator will not change his mind set even though everyone here has put up valid arguments only to be matched with his nonsense.
Reflex is the skill needed in Call of Duty Black Ops.
If you're looking for actual Team Work, Planning, and Espionage to bring your enemy down then go on MAG or some other MMO.
In Call of Duty Black Ops the Maps are so small there really is no room for Tatics, only Run and Gun and Perhaps a Sabotage or two.
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]
[QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Skill: "the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well"
You can practice to improve your reflexes (Hence it being a skill).
Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
Those that "try" and train in reflex...or so you say, train in the experience. The more you are accustomed to something the more you can know what to do. Look at it this way, You know that thing the doctore hits your knee with that makes it kick. You CAN'T train that.[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] Oops, thats not actually true. Reflex: "2. Physiology An involuntary response to a stimulus. 3. Psychology An unlearned or instinctive response to a stimulus." It's involuntary, it can't be pracitced.
DudeNtheRoom
Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
Those that "try" and train in reflex...or so you say, train in the experience. The more you are accustomed to something the more you can know what to do. Look at it this way, You know that thing the doctore hits your knee with that makes it kick. You CAN'T train that.Please seek a college education. Nothing you've said has made any sense and everyone else's arguments are overwhelmingly more logical than anything you've said.
What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX. You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath. .......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Then how do you practice breathing techniques?soulitane
[QUOTE="soulitane"]You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath. .......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX.DudeNtheRoom
Jesus Christ.....try holding your breath until you pass out and you'll see what he was talking about.
[QUOTE="soulitane"]You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath. .......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"? Did you read what I said? Look at the part where i said if you hold your breath long enough. There is no way for you to stop your body from trying to breathe if the levels of CO2 in your blood stream get too high.[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX.DudeNtheRoom
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Reflexes can be trained, boxers train it, goalies train it, the Navy SEALS train it, I have no idea how you can deny this.
Those that "try" and train in reflex...or so you say, train in the experience. The more you are accustomed to something the more you can know what to do. Look at it this way, You know that thing the doctore hits your knee with that makes it kick. You CAN'T train that.Please seek a college education. Nothing you've said has made any sense and everyone else's arguments are overwhelmingly more logical than anything you've said.
How can you practice an involuntary reaction??????????? Please telll me. It either makes react or it does not. Maybe, I'm wrong in thinking that its actually a reaction and not just ppl being quicker to react...voluntarily.[QUOTE="soulitane"]You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath........................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] What? Breathing is voluntary. You can stop anytime you want. You can't stop a reflex. Thats why its called a REFLEX.DudeNtheRoom
The Phrase 'hold your breath' means "don't expect it, it's not likely,"
Also
"Try holding your breath. After a minute you will have used up most of the oxygen stored in your body and carbon dioxide will build up, triggering senses in your diaphragm to start breathing. You will experience an overwhelming urge to gulp some air, something which you will not be able to resist."
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="soulitane"] You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath.
.......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"? Did you read what I said? Look at the part where i said if you hold your breath long enough. There is no way for you to stop your body from trying to breathe if the levels of CO2 in your blood stream get too high. Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="soulitane"] You can't stop breathing, if you were to hold your breath for long enough your body's instincts will kick in and force you to breath.
.......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?The Phrase 'hold your breath' means "don't expect it, it's not likely,"
Also
"Try holding your breath. After a minute you will have used up most of the oxygen stored in your body and carbon dioxide will build up, triggering senses in your diaphragm to start breathing. You will experience an overwhelming urge to gulp some air, something which you will not be able to resist."
So you've never heard of ppl holding their breath until they pass out? Seems you need to be less worried about proving me stupid.Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.DudeNtheRoom
But why would you want to stop?
Breathing is Required for you to stay alive, and even if you do stop breathing you quickly realize that your body needs to Breath Oxygen and you will eventually have to start Breathing again.
[QUOTE="soulitane"]Did you read what I said? Look at the part where i said if you hold your breath long enough. There is no way for you to stop your body from trying to breathe if the levels of CO2 in your blood stream get too high. Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.If you want to look at it that way, when you're younger didn't you play around and pretend to hit someone to see if they flinch and they don't flinch. You do know that is a reflex right? So there you can stop your reflex's even if it is a completely stupid example.[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] .......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?DudeNtheRoom
Where does the skill come into any game?
Silverbond
In fighting games you have to learn the move sets of Certain Characters and maybe All Characters and then you would have to learn each Combos for each individual Character and of course there's how fast you move with your hands and thumbs...(reflexes)
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.LegatoSkyheart
But why would you want to stop?
Breathing is Required for you to stay alive, and even if you do stop breathing you quickly realize that your body needs to Breath Oxygen and you will eventually have to start Breathing again.
Now you're just splitting hairs."[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] .......................................................the whole world has never heard of the pharse, "hold you breath"?DudeNtheRoom
The Phrase 'hold your breath' means "don't expect it, it's not likely,"
Also
"Try holding your breath. After a minute you will have used up most of the oxygen stored in your body and carbon dioxide will build up, triggering senses in your diaphragm to start breathing. You will experience an overwhelming urge to gulp some air, something which you will not be able to resist."
So you've never heard of ppl holding their breath until they pass out? Seems you need to be less worried about proving me stupid.You mean the Phrase "Don't hold your breath or you'll pass out"? :|
Couldnt the same be said for pretty much every FPS? I mean, twitch shooting is all Counter Strike is, isnt it?
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.DudeNtheRoom
But why would you want to stop?
Breathing is Required for you to stay alive, and even if you do stop breathing you quickly realize that your body needs to Breath Oxygen and you will eventually have to start Breathing again.
Now you're just splitting hairs.Eh, I was just saying. Breathing doesn't seem like something that is Voluntary, Sure you can hold your breath but It's sort of Required in living.
[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Did you read what I said? Look at the part where i said if you hold your breath long enough. There is no way for you to stop your body from trying to breathe if the levels of CO2 in your blood stream get too high.Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.If you want to look at it that way, when you're younger didn't you play around and pretend to hit someone to see if they flinch and they don't flinch. You do know that is a reflex right? So there you can stop your reflex's even if it is a completely stupid example. Really, you mean it didn't seem as if you already knew he was bluffing. Thats called experience. Besides, if you didn't flinch, then you DIDN'T have a reflex. You're contradicting youself.soulitane
If you want to look at it that way, when you're younger didn't you play around and pretend to hit someone to see if they flinch and they don't flinch. You do know that is a reflex right? So there you can stop your reflex's even if it is a completely stupid example. Really, you mean it didn't seem as if you already knew he was bluffing. Thats called experience. Besides, if you didn't flinch, then you DIDN'T have a reflex. You're contradicting youself. So if you train yourself to stop reacting to that why can't you train yourself to react faster the next time?[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] Breathing isn't a reflex. It's voluntary! The point is you can hold your breath. Regardless of the chemical reaction that makes you start up again, you can stop.DudeNtheRoom
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