When a 360 exclusive, goes to the PC is it really an "exclusive lost"?

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#101 BillGates_Money
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so in the end its a microsoft exclusive
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#102 BillGates_Money
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so in the end its a microsoft exclusive
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#103 Vandalvideo
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so in the end its a microsoft exclusiveBillGates_Money
Which is a designation you totally just made up. Microsoft does NOT own the PC platform. Let me break it down for you. More than one platform? Check. More than one? Multi Platform? Plat Multiplat. Not exclusive.
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#104 Trading_Zoner
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Why is this topic brought up so much?

Especially when the answer is so obvious? I think lemmings just can't deal with the fact that most of thier BIG hyped games are going to PC as well. Including Halo 3.

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#105 BudgetMessiah
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Repeated for emphasis... Microsoft does not own PC gaming.foxhound_fox

You can repeat it all you'd like, it doesn't make you right.

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#106 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Repeated for emphasis... Microsoft does not own PC gaming.BudgetMessiah

You can repeat it all you'd like, it doesn't make you right.

But he is right.

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#107 BillGates_Money
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[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]so in the end its a microsoft exclusiveVandalvideo
Which is a designation you totally just made up. Microsoft does NOT own the PC platform. Let me break it down for you. More than one platform? Check. More than one? Multi Platform? Plat Multiplat. Not exclusive.

ummmmm all im sayin is if M$ owns the rights to it its a M$ exclusive no matter where it goes..whats your beef with M$

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#108 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]so in the end its a microsoft exclusiveBillGates_Money

Which is a designation you totally just made up. Microsoft does NOT own the PC platform. Let me break it down for you. More than one platform? Check. More than one? Multi Platform? Plat Multiplat. Not exclusive.

ummmmm all im sayin is if M$ owns the rights to it its a M$ exclusive no matter where it goes..whats your beef with M$

Once again, what relevance does this have to the discussion at hand again? None. Its on more than one platform. Multiplat. Not exclusive. End of story.
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#109 Trading_Zoner
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[QUOTE="BudgetMessiah"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Repeated for emphasis... Microsoft does not own PC gaming.Meu2k7

You can repeat it all you'd like, it doesn't make you right.

But he is right.

Of course he is. Linux users enjoy PC games as well. On top of that, PC is an open platform.

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#110 BillGates_Money
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[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]so in the end its a microsoft exclusiveVandalvideo

Which is a designation you totally just made up. Microsoft does NOT own the PC platform. Let me break it down for you. More than one platform? Check. More than one? Multi Platform? Plat Multiplat. Not exclusive.

End of story? who are you my dad? you need to calm down. I didnt disagree with a game being multi plat, all I was saying is that its a m$ exclusive that is all. If it had nothing to do with the conversation then fine, I was just looking for a yes or no not a "its not a console exclusive"

ummmmm all im sayin is if M$ owns the rights to it its a M$ exclusive no matter where it goes..whats your beef with M$

Once again, what relevance does this have to the discussion at hand again? None. Its on more than one platform. Multiplat. Not exclusive. End of story.

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#111 Bigboss232
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If all of you are crying so much over something so stupid dont get halo 3 or fable 2 just buy it for your pc I dont see what the big deal is no pc gamers get to injoy gears why wouldnt you want to enjoy gears like we have. And ninja gaiden has gone to the ps3 with stigma stop crying people if it goes multiplat so what just let things run there course and stop crying.

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#112 BillGates_Money
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[QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="BillGates_Money"]so in the end its a microsoft exclusiveVandalvideo

Which is a designation you totally just made up. Microsoft does NOT own the PC platform. Let me break it down for you. More than one platform? Check. More than one? Multi Platform? Plat Multiplat. Not exclusive.

Calm down man. All im saying that its a M$ exclusive. They still own the rights. I see that its not a PLATFORM EXCLUSIVE

ummmmm all im sayin is if M$ owns the rights to it its a M$ exclusive no matter where it goes..whats your beef with M$

Once again, what relevance does this have to the discussion at hand again? None. Its on more than one platform. Multiplat. Not exclusive. End of story.

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#113 _Pedro_
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An exclusive being lost to the PC is the lamest argument I've ever heard (no explaining required).

PS Microsoft luvs when popular games are ported to the PC. No, they won't recieve revenue directly, but if popular, moresystem demanding games keep gamers usings Windows OS and upgrading said OS to recieve maximum benefits, then you better believe Microsoft luvs it. Heck, I'll bet the bank they asked Epic to port Gears to PC. Especially if Gears supports DX10.

Nevermind gamers.....Microsoft gets to keep Epic and other developersusing Windows OS and Microsoft development tools. It's a win win.

More revenue for MS equals new iterations of Xbox for gamers. All lemmings should get on their knees and kiss hermit feet.

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The PC is open source. People that buy the games for the pc may well not buy a 360 to do so. If a certain section of a company is only making losses it will be forced to close down. That means: Bye bye Xbox!

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#114 PS3_3DO
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Sony fanboys hiding behind the PC that is why the will never realize is that it's still console exclusive. Not everyone has a $2,000 PC to play Gears at high settings to match the 360 version.

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#115 Vandalvideo
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Sony fanboys hiding behind the PC that is why the will never realize is that it's still console exclusive. Not everyone has a $2,000 PC to play Gears at high settings to match the 360 version.

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Try 600 dollar PC for max settings in DX9.
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#116 Trading_Zoner
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If all of you are crying so much over something so stupid dont get halo 3 or fable 2 just buy it for your pc I dont see what the big deal is no pc gamers get to injoy gears why wouldnt you want to enjoy gears like we have. And ninja gaiden has gone to the ps3 with stigma stop crying people if it goes multiplat so what just let things run there course and stop crying.

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:lol: Gears is coming to PC :lol:

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#117 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony fanboys hiding behind the PC that is why the will never realize is that it's still console exclusive. Not everyone has a $2,000 PC to play Gears at high settings to match the 360 version.

Vandalvideo

Try 600 dollar PC for max settings in DX9.

You are going to be Pwnt when Gears is out on the PC and you think your $600 PCis going to match the 360 version! :lol:

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#118 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Sony fanboys hiding behind the PC that is why the will never realize is that it's still console exclusive. Not everyone has a $2,000 PC to play Gears at high settings to match the 360 version.

PS3_3DO

Try 600 dollar PC for max settings in DX9.

You are going to be Pwnt when Gears is out on the PC and you think your $600 PCis going to match the 360 version! :lol:

Considering the machine I provided is far superior to the technology inside the 360 and the specs of Crysis coupled with Crytek saying how optimized the game was, I'd have to say you're just throwing speculation without any proof out there.
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#120 nintendo-4life
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Short answer: Microsoft does not own the PC platform. So yes. Shorter answer: yes. More than one platform = multiplat.Vandalvideo
exactly
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#121 gnutux
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I mean strictly console speaking...of course it is..

But I mean most games are played on Windows OS PC and we all know what software company runs thats OS.

So if Gears of War published and paid for in part by Microsoft..gets ported over to Windows...which is well published and paid for by Microsoft, is it really an exclusive lost?

Its all kind of staying "in-house" so to speak.

This goes for Lost Planet and other "also available on PC" games.

Its like when GTA VCS and LCS got ported over from PSP to the PS2...I didnt count that as an "exclusive lost" for the PSP

Hermits and Lems shouldnt really argue about exclusive being lost to each other, as they kind of both end up gracing the same companies platform (Microsoft).

I think in terms of consoles its much more painful for PS3 "losing an exclusive" to the 360...then the 360 "losing an exclusive" to the PC

Please dont bother bringing up Linux and Mac OS's for PC gaming because we all know most games being played on a PC are being played on a Windows OS.

What are your thoughts?

P.S. Anybody else picking up "300" for Blu-ray and or HD-DVD? (Im getting the HD-DVD version because I heard it supported better extra features, but both versions will be amazing in HD)rappid_rabbit

Highly debatable.

My answer: until Gears of War or any other X360 titles go to Linux or MacOS X, it's not a lost exclusivity since Microsoft is still publishing the game on their own platform. PC not= Windows. Windows is Microsoft's platform and Gears of War or any other X360 game I don't think will ever land on Linux or MacOS X. Hermits need to learn that they're not PC fanboys but Windows fanboy. Remember, PC runs Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Zeta, SkyOS, Solaris, and technically MacOS X. So let's think this for a sec. How many Microsoft XBOX 360 games are on Linux or any other OS than Windows natively? None, last count. Therefore, exclusivity is not lost.

Short answer: NO

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#122 PS2_ROCKS
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I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.
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#123 smokeydabear076
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I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.PS2_ROCKS
Too bad they will not hear it.
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#124 Gangans
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Yes it is lost. Many more people have good pc's than an xbox360, so when an xbox360 exclusive goes to pc it will steal sales from any xbox360 owners-to-be and those xbox360 owners who have a good pc and find that they can get the game cheaper and play it at higher graphical settings on pc.
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#125 smokeydabear076
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Yes it is lost. Many more people have good pc's than an xbox360, so when an xbox360 exclusive goes to pc it will steal sales from any xbox360 owners-to-be and those xbox360 owners who have a good pc and find that they can get the game cheaper and play it at higher graphical settings on pc.Gangans
Sales have nothing to do with its exclusivity.
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#126 swanlee
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None of the 360 games are coming out on anything other than Windows, which is an MS platform. PC gaming = Windows for these games people are referring to, so No it's not a lost exclusive. By there logic the PS2 and PS3 have lost alot of exclusives to the PSP.

It's sad that the PS3 is so bad at gaming it has turned PS3 cows into PC gamers because they can no longer defend how crappy the PS3 is.

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#127 gnutux
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I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.PS2_ROCKS

It's still multiplat, but the term exclusive means that it's only available on the company's platform. Actually, the term itself isn't really defined.

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#128 Bigboss232
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your right its not really defined Microsoft is puting there game on another microsoft system the pc and it will probably only work on windows vista which is microsoft so how are they losing an exclusive again.
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#129 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.gnutux

It's still multiplat, but the term exclusive means that it's only available on the company's platform. Actually, the term itself isn't really defined.

gnutux

Yeah and the PC is not Microsoft's platform it is the user's.
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#130 Private_Vegas
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I think that it is an exclusive lost........ But I'm against the exclusive hording so I don't care.
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#131 Private_Vegas
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[QUOTE="gnutux"]

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.smokeydabear076

It's still multiplat, but the term exclusive means that it's only available on the company's platform. Actually, the term itself isn't really defined.

gnutux

Yeah and the PC is not Microsoft's platform it is the user's.

If the game is a Vista only game then they require MS software for the game. So it's not a MS platform.... buts is still essential to the process of playing..... and.... umm.... I dunno where I'm going with this. bu tI see where some people are coming from when they say it isn't a lost exclusive, but I still disagree with them.

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#132 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="gnutux"]

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I cannot believe people argue this. The PC and 360 are not the same plaform therefore if a game is on both it must be multiplat. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is the publisher, it is still multiplat.Private_Vegas

It's still multiplat, but the term exclusive means that it's only available on the company's platform. Actually, the term itself isn't really defined.

gnutux

Yeah and the PC is not Microsoft's platform it is the user's.

If the game is a Vista only game then they require MS software for the game. So it's not a MS platform.... buts is still essential to the process of playing..... and.... umm.... I dunno where I'm going with this. bu tI see where some people are coming from when they say it isn't a lost exclusive, but I still disagree with them.

Oh and what does any Mircosoft OS require? or do you just buy a copy of windows xp and it transforms into a PC?
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Short answer: Microsoft does not own the PC platform. So yes. Shorter answer: yes. More than one platform = multiplat.Vandalvideo

Agreed.

It's one less reason to buy a 360 if you have a PC, and that's all there is to it. Assuming that the porting is top-notch of course.

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#134 Hermitkermit
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Are Console's doomed to walk in the shadows of PCs forever!!!!!!

I wonder if the Mac gained any from this.....

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#135 Bigboss232
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yes they are but than again im a console gamer and wish i could game on my pc :cry:
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#136 swanlee
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Answer this question are any 360 games mentioned here planned to show up on any other operating system than Windows?

The answer is no,

You can call the PC an open platform all you want but if you are talking about playing these games you are talking about Windows which is an MS product. MS has encouraged titles going to Vista and has built a PC live interface and pc achievements so 360 players can play with PC players online. It's part of their company strategy and is not a lost exclusive.

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#137 Acenso
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Its yes and no...Its kind of one of those gray areas...They are direct competition yet at the sametime indirect.

For the most part I would say it is just a bunch of cows pretending PC matters...When last gen they were saying it was dead...Unless of course about Halo and Kotor. Notice how it seems to be always big games that matter?

I like MS better for this reason...It seems like if the developer wants to port it to PC...They will let them. Sony on the other hand...Since they just picked up the new Q-Dreams game...means no PC version.:cry:

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#138 smokeydabear076
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Answer this question are any 360 games mentioned here palnned to show up on ny other operating system than Windows?

The answer is no,

You can call the PC open platform all you want but if you are talking about platying these games you are talking about Windows which is an MS product. MS has encouraged titles going to Vista and has built a PC live interface so 360 players can play with PC players online. It's part of their company strategy and is not a lost exclusive.

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The system exclusivity is lost.
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#139 lettuceman44
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Answer this question are any 360 games mentioned here palnned to show up on ny other operating system than Windows?

The answer is no,

You can call the PC open platform all you want but if you are talking about platying these games you are talking about Windows which is an MS product. MS has encouraged titles going to Vista and has built a PC live interface so 360 players can play with PC players online. It's part of their company strategy and is not a lost exclusive.

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they don't make money of pc games! They don't own rights to them or anything! So it's not a MS exclusive. Not everyone buys Windows for games, basically everyone has it. Even if MS tries to force a game to be on there OS, it is not their game, there exclusive.
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#140 Bigboss232
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Stop crying on this subject its not exclusive anymore get over it alright Halo 3 wont be exclusive lets just call them both timed exclusives there now stop crying its getting annoying.