Was there ever a console with a higher failure rate and more technical issues

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, dude, dont come at me with that fanboy crap. Its my experiences, and my opinion. Just because you are a fanboy doesnt make your opinion fact. So dont come at me with that crapnavyguy21

I am not a known fanboy because I enjoy all consoles despite that I only own 2 systems. I dont hate the 360 at all. This is strictly failure rate.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]Skittles lay off NWA please.. They were great back in the day. I am not saying Ps2 dre didn't exist, but just like Eddie-Vedder said its just being overblown. The topic is about the wosrt failure rate of any console. PS2 did have problems if there was a lawsuit but with so many more consoles sold and not nearly as many stories the 360 wins in console failure territory. Whether that is fixed today is still not known and won't be for at least another year.delta3074

Although I loved it, Dreamcast wasnt very reliable. Might just be me but I went through 3 , all died from laser issues. Shoddy parts most likely.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]No its not, nice try though. The percentage was a lot smaller. The only reason it might seem it was more common is because the PS2 sold 3 times what the 360 sold therefore there are more consoles out to break. But percentage wise it was not as big.Midnightshade29

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]PS1, PS2, NES, Game Gear, Virtua Boy. I think PS2 is number 1 though.delta3074

No its not, nice try though. The percentage was a lot smaller. The only reason it might seem it was more common is because the PS2 sold 3 times what the 360 sold therefore there are more consoles out to break. But percentage wise it was not as big.

In fact I praise ms on thier first xbox. It was built like a tank and had the most powerful hardware with mandatory hard drives in every system a kickarse pentium 3 cpu and the first GPU with shader support. I didn't own one no, but I was only into pc games back then .. If only they built the 360 like the original xbox there wouldn't be rrod.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you keep saying that dude, don't keep me in suspense anymore, which consokle do you think had the worst failure rate?delta3074

I remember at launch the PS2 had pretty bad failure rates, but like Microsoft at the end they got their act together.

Vesica_Prime

than the 360?

agesyrh

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

No its not, nice try though. The percentage was a lot smaller. The only reason it might seem it was more common is because the PS2 sold 3 times what the 360 sold therefore there are more consoles out to break. But percentage wise it was not as big.

Midnightshade29

In fact I praise ms on thier first xbox. It was built like a tank and had the most powerful hardware with mandatory hard drives in every system a kickarse pentium 3 cpu and the first GPU with shader support. I didn't own one no, but I was only into pc games back then .. If only they built the 360 like the original xbox there wouldn't be rrod.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="delta3074"]never got to grips with the coleco, was it really that bad, i thought the spectrum 48k was the worst hardware, but back in those days my dad could actually fix them, he showed me how to replace the chips in the C64, these days though theres just too many transistors and they don't use the convenient little plastic slots for your chips anymoredelta3074

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

agesyrh

The PS2 comes to mind.

I have only ever had 4 consoles actually die on me. I went through 3 PS2's all with the same disc read error paying for each repair before I gave up and got a GameCube... big mistake. I also had a PS3 die on me and create a repair bill of $180. My launch 360 is still working fine. Only 1 of my friends has gotten the RRoD, but that was when his little brother knocked over his 360 while it was vertical. I have been gaming since the NES days, and for me, the worst console as far as hardware goes has to be the PS2.

Out of all the consoles I owned in my life, my 360 died the most, with 2 RRODs(my 1st RROD was 1 month later, my 2nd was in 8 months later). My PS2(had serious DRE issuses), Sega Dreamcast(broke within 3 months) and Wii(blame my brother) broke as well, but my Gamecube, Xbox, N64, SNES, NES, Sega Genesis, etc. never broken on me.

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

jimkabrhel

LOL, and that's a tired excuse. Everytime a new chip is released "All the problems are fixed".. You keep saying it and the darn things keep breaking. Go figure.

Almost all systems I've had have had some form of technical issues or other.

My 360 has got the red rings twice. My PSP's analog stick jammed and had to be returned. My Nintendo DS's screen hinges shattered more than once and had to be fixed. My PS2 got many DREs. My GBA SP wouldn't function properly when playing certain games.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

Shewgenja

LOL, and that's a tired excuse. Everytime a new chip is released "All the problems are fixed".. You keep saying it and the darn things keep breaking. Go figure.

He never stated that.

He merely said "doesn't fail nearly as much"

And most chips seem to be pretty solid. Yes, they're not 100% fail-proof, but they still are an improvement.

Yes, though the 360 is up there.

Someone already posted about that computer that failed over 50% of the time...

I've got the RROD 3 times, my PS2 after all this time never had any problems. And i treated that thing badly lol.

The only other problems i had were the games itself. And yes, i always blew on may games. lol the age old myth.

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]

The NES and it's shoddy 72 pin connector for reading games. Blinking lights and unreadable game started just months after first use, which of course led to the world-wide myth that blowing in games would make them work, a myth that is still believed by many today.

VendettaRed07

Using a game genie or pushing in on the edges and shaking it when its in the slot fixes it everytime.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

Shewgenja

LOL, and that's a tired excuse. Everytime a new chip is released "All the problems are fixed".. You keep saying it and the darn things keep breaking. Go figure.

reading comprehension to conclusion level: 1.

The NES and it's shoddy 72 pin connector for reading games. Blinking lights and unreadable game started just months after first use, which of course led to the world-wide myth that blowing in games would make them work, a myth that is still believed by many today.

I remember when the PS2 first came out. The first series had a really high failure rate. Between regular hardware faults, and DRE there was a bunch of them broken. I remember helping a friend of mine who was an EB games manager box up tons of those things to be sent back to Sony. I worked 4 different weekends just to help them catch up. The whole back room was filled with returned consoles. He told me that system wide they had over a 90% return on that first series of PS2s.

It didn't help that right out of the box a lot of the PS2 wouldn't read certain color discs (dark blue I think). Also Sony's lousy 30 day warranty didn't help matters either since if you hit 31 days after purchase you were paying Sony to repair your PS2. Probably the main cause of the Class Action suit.

Of course future versions were better so I'm sure the overall PS2 reliability level was in the 10% range but those first ones were serious junk. Of course the Phats had DRE issues until the end so it might have been higher than 10% over all. But since Sony never counted the DRE failures as hard failures I guess they never occurred. :D

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]

The NES and it's shoddy 72 pin connector for reading games. Blinking lights and unreadable game started just months after first use, which of course led to the world-wide myth that blowing in games would make them work, a myth that is still believed by many today.

VendettaRed07

Using a game genie or pushing in on the edges and shaking it when its in the slot fixes it everytime.

or blow the cartride.

The PS the lense was weak and you had to out the console in an angle sometimes so it can read the disks

The PS2 had huge hardware problems before and I think there was a statemen from a Capcom exec who said that Sony purposely had defective consoles so people would keep buying them.

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

jimkabrhel

It is not tired for me. I was a huge Halo 1 and 2 fan. I waited month after month, year after year for MS to fix the 360. I wanted to play Halo 3 so much. I got tired of waiting, and bought a PS3, which I enjoy greatly.

The present 360 may have better reliaibility than the old one now; but to me it doesn't matter, IF that is true. I will never buy a game console from Microsoft. Ever.

Yes there definately was, I cant quite remember the name of it, but it was like the coleco adam, or one of those random gaming computers in like 1985, more than 50% didn't operate at all.

VendettaRed07

360 surpassed that with it's 54% failure rate

ps2 was not nearly as badstereointegrity

It was just as bad. Worse actually, because mine broke twice, and Sony charged quite a bit for both of the reparations. Oh well, I expected that from Sony.

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

The 360 is quite obviously pretty bad and this cannot be disputed. The Ps2 was awful as well with it's disc read errors. Don't know which one was worse but both caused me problems in the past.

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

lawlessx

Too late. Cows have already been pretending that the problem had never existed.

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

agesyrh

How ironic. :lol:

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Yes there definately was, I cant quite remember the name of it, but it was like the coleco adam, or one of those random gaming computers in like 1985, more than 50% didn't operate at all.

drakecool1

360 surpassed that with it's 54% failure rate

Even if that was true, which there is no real proof that it is. They didn't replace it any time in the next 3 years. You were pretty much screwed if it didn't work.

PS2 was pretty bad from what I remember. I still firmly believe if you treat your consoles properly, they'll work just fine. My launch 360 still works, and so does my 30 year old intellivision.

Renegade_Fury

My 3 year PC gaming episode was terrible. Graphics card fried, got a new one that would always come loose, meaning the screen would stay black. Then sometimes the computer would refuse to start. Hard drive crashes, missing dlls. So I switched to Xbox 360, where I've only had one RROD because I bought a launch model because it was really cheap.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The new 360 hardware doesn't fail nearly as much. This is a tired topic.

Shewgenja

LOL, and that's a tired excuse. Everytime a new chip is released "All the problems are fixed".. You keep saying it and the darn things keep breaking. Go figure.

Having owned almost every console ever made, i cant think of any that come close to the early years of the 360.djsifer01

Atari 5200 says hello. Sometimes your controller would be broken straight out of the box, and if not, it was bound to break after a few hours of play

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

lawlessx

Thing is, that could be repaired (lens cleaner, diod clicking). 360 RROD makes your ENTIRE console obsolete. Yes they are fixes for it such as hot towel trick and the removal or the X clamps and using new thermal paste but all are temporary fixes. You would have no choice but to send it bk to MS and still have no guarantee that RROD has gone for permenant. Only the first year Ps2s were shoddy with laser due to Sanyo laser partnership, the official Sony lasers that were released for the new limited edition and slimline ps2s are much better and are not prone to DRE.

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]PS1, PS2, NES, Game Gear, Virtua Boy. I think PS2 is number 1 though.delta3074

No its not, nice try though. The percentage was a lot smaller. The only reason it might seem it was more common is because the PS2 sold 3 times what the 360 sold therefore there are more consoles out to break. But percentage wise it was not as big.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

before any cow states the ps2 had no issues

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/guides/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide.ars

Too late. Cows have already been pretending that the problem had never existed.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

No its not, nice try though. The percentage was a lot smaller. The only reason it might seem it was more common is because the PS2 sold 3 times what the 360 sold therefore there are more consoles out to break. But percentage wise it was not as big.

furomaster_99

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]does it really matter? i mean really? have you actually ever owned a 360, i have had 3 RROD's, but i will still go back to the 360, gamers do what they have to to play the games they want, if that means putting up with dodgy hardware then that's what they will do, bottom line, the enjoyment i have had from my 360 far outweighs the problems i have had with it, and a lot of my enjoyment has come from PC/360 games.delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Huh? So you are saying "MS you can sell terrible hardware and I will buy it anyway". Well, that's just perfect! :shock:Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]does it really matter? i mean really? have you actually ever owned a 360, i have had 3 RROD's, but i will still go back to the 360, gamers do what they have to to play the games they want, if that means putting up with dodgy hardware then that's what they will do, bottom line, the enjoyment i have had from my 360 far outweighs the problems i have had with it, and a lot of my enjoyment has come from PC/360 games.delta3074