Valve = best developer of gen 7

Anybody praising Naughty Dog's games is praising mediocrity, and I have no idea what you think I'm jealous of.

@MonsieurX: tlou 95

uc 88

uc2 96

uc3 92

tlou over 270 gotys

uc2 over 200 gotys

And i noticed you are too scared to show your face here

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/generation-7-report-card-results-31114676/#72

keep on beggin for them console games :)

and keep praying for a pc goty exclusive.

@uninspiredcup: DOTA 2... never heard of it, ahh multiplayer RTS.

Yea, it's one of them "moba" games. The most played multiplayer games on the planet, you may have heard of them. They are kind of a big deal.

hiding behind MC as usual

UC 8

TLOU 8

UC2 9.5

UC3 9

TLOU no GOTY,Zelda won LOL

no, your statement was stupid. "oh its popular that means its not quality" ... DoTA 2 got a 9... its been out 3 friggin years and is growing in popularity. as does League of Legends. they are not shallow games, they did not transform into the lowest common denominator like CoD did... and they are not rehashed yearly.

You are a fool with no valid point. fact of the matter is, console games don't have staying power. the casuals are thickle.

Not on metacritic... You're still ignoring the fact TLoU beat Skyrim being the most awarded game ever

AFAIK,we're not on metacritic's forums

That exactly proves my point. Do you really think Valve is gonna come out and say "Sorry, no Half Life 3 for you guys because we're too afraid it's gonna become the new Duke Nukem Forever."?

Of course they'll give some wishy washy excuse about diversification blah blah blah. And sure, they are making money from Dota 2, but that doesn't disprove the fact that they are afraid of their own legacy. In that respect, at least Blizzard didn't chicken out from their Starcraft legacy and instead just sit on the WoW cash cow.

And to your seemingly rhetorical question - "Why make Half Life 3?". Simple. They are game developers, no different from creators of other forms of art. If Christopher Nolan chickened out after directing Memento (his Magnum Opus), in fear of not being able to direct a better movie, we wouldn't get Inception or the Batman movies. Half Life 2 is Valve's magnum opus. If they keep things the way they are, Valve will eventually lack the ability to make any Half Life game. Ever.

True, but you're also ignoring the fact that it has gotten a lot of recognition. Besides Tom McShea and Carolyn Petit are some of the worst reviewers out there

Naughty Dog was the best for Gen7!

@jhcho2: My guess is they're waiting until they finish their new source engine. You're statement is kind of funny though considering what you are using as evidence.

@SEANMCAD: Why would their development team focus on those things?

At the end of the day, it's all down to taste though

Debatable.

Valve is the best developer of all generations, even those before their establishment. Hail Gaben!

So they made Half Life Episode 1 and 2, left the story hanging, while Episode 3 was supposed to be in development last gen, and Valve eventually came out and said that they felt Half Life Episode 3 would be better being incorporated into Half Life 3.....and after all that.....said something along the lines of "been there done that". And you believed them?

Go ahead and believe that if you want. Cumulative press statements over the last 8 years prove otherwise.

Good developer. Nowhere near the peak.

Even leaving aside the usual suspects for "BEST DEV EVAR!" I'd happily rank someone like Ubisoft above them. Think the Assassin's Creed, Prince of Persia, Far Cry, Rayman, Tom Clancy, Rocksmith and Anno series' have given me more pleasure this past gen.