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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They're not. All things considered, BioWare has been a MUCH more consistent studio in terms of quality than Naughty Dog has. Now that may change with EA's acquisition, but we'll see. They also make completely different kinds of games. It would be like comparing Bungie to Blizzard. You really can't do it.Deadbeatcobra
How so are they more consistent then Naughty Dog? Uncharted 2 was near flawless and received massive amounts of nearly every award there was. Mass Effect 2 was Bioware's best game and didn't get near the amount of recognition Uncharted 2 has.
mass effect 2 isnt their best.but one of their besttop 3 from the top of my head would be baldurs gate, knights of the old republic, never winter nights
naughty dog is good but no way are they better than bioware.
Naughty Dog is the better developer IMO, Bioware has made alot of great games but not as great as Uncharted 2.
mass effect 2 isnt their best.but one of their best[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"]
[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
How so are they more consistent then Naughty Dog? Uncharted 2 was near flawless and received massive amounts of nearly every award there was. Mass Effect 2 was Bioware's best game and didn't get near the amount of recognition Uncharted 2 has.
Blazerdt47
top 3 from the top of my head would be baldurs gate, knights of the old republic, never winter nights
naughty dog is good but no way are they better than bioware.
Naughty Dog is the better developer IMO, Bioware has made alot of great games but not as great as Uncharted 2.
ME 2 is already as great as UNcharted 2, if not better, and besides a couple of alright platforming series, ND has nothing left. Bioware on the other hand, has KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG 2, NWN Dragon Age, Mass Effect, the old republic and are always at the forefront of the industry.[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] mass effect 2 isnt their best.but one of their best
top 3 from the top of my head would be baldurs gate, knights of the old republic, never winter nights
naughty dog is good but no way are they better than bioware.
Dead-Memories
Naughty Dog is the better developer IMO, Bioware has made alot of great games but not as great as Uncharted 2.
ME 2 is already as great as UNcharted 2, if not better, and besides a couple of alright platforming series, ND has nothing left. Bioware on the other hand, has KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG 2, NWN Dragon Age, Mass Effect, the old republic and are always at the forefront of the industry.ME2 is already as great as Uncharted 2??? Your mistaken greatly. Your opinion is in the minority.
ME 2 is already as great as UNcharted 2, if not better, and besides a couple of alright platforming series, ND has nothing left. Bioware on the other hand, has KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG 2, NWN Dragon Age, Mass Effect, the old republic and are always at the forefront of the industry.[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
Naughty Dog is the better developer IMO, Bioware has made alot of great games but not as great as Uncharted 2.
Blazerdt47
ME2 is already as great as Uncharted 2??? Your mistaken greatly. Your opinion is in the minority.
i don't know what world you live in
[QUOTE="campzor"]the mass effect 3 trailer was REALLY cool and sheppard looks like an awesome character but havnt played mass effect yet (waiting for #2 to debut on the ps3) ill have to go with uncharted 3 (which i probably would have gone with anyways) that trailer was awesome...the narrative , the music , da Gr4fiixx , and the gameplay(sorta) near the end... man 2011 is going to probably be the best year in gaming...period..Blazerdt47
I don't know where everyone gets their knowledge from. What tree are some of you eating from? What makes the story in Mass Effect 3 that much better than Uncharted 3? First of all both games aren't even out, second of all Uncharted 2 had a better story and overall complete package much more than Mass Effect 2. Third, 2011 will be the greatest year in gaming period.
i never said the story in mass effect 2 was great. i just think the universe is intriguing and want to see what all the fuss is about... uncharted 2 is one of my favourite games this gen and 3 is looking just as awesome[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No, what matters is how much effort developers put to make the game prime. GeneralShowzer
I don't....I don't even know. We are talking about Bioware? Pretty much the premier RPG developer in the video game world?
All i could think off when playing ME2 is how little effort went into this game. Especially in the enviromental layout and storytelling. obvious troll is obvious. the game had excellent graphics "the stupid picture of the bad texture was a small mistake. there are barely any bad textures in the game. the dialogue was amazingly written and the story was expertly crafted to be controlled by the players action. the gameplay was excellent with all of the different biotic abilities and suck the bosses were cool as hell. the characters were great, especially joker. try actually playing the games instead of attacking and defending them as if your life depends on it.They're not. All things considered, BioWare has been a MUCH more consistent studio in terms of quality than Naughty Dog has. Now that may change with EA's acquisition, but we'll see. They also make completely different kinds of games. It would be like comparing Bungie to Blizzard. You really can't do it.[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
Yes. Bioware isn't known for consistency. Example look at Dragon Age 2, it looks like a downgrade from the first. Naughty Dog improves on after every game they make. Uncharted 3 will put hollywood to shame the same way Uncharted 2 did but to a more extensive degree. I don't think we have to argue on how Naughty Dog is a better developer than Bioware.
Blazerdt47
How so are they more consistent then Naughty Dog? Uncharted 2 was near flawless and received massive amounts of nearly every award there was. Mass Effect 2 was Bioware's best game and didn't get near the amount of recognition Uncharted 2 has.
Last I checked, their Metacritic average was like... the same. As far as GOTY awards go, UC2 had MUCH less competition than ME2 does. UC2 didn't have to deal with StarCraft II, Halo: Reach, SMG2, Red Dead Redemption, etc, etc. Really, UC2's only competition was DA:O, and Demon's Souls. If UC2 had released alongside the games that ME2 has, it would have won a lot less GOTY awards. As for developer consistency, ND usually takes one or two iterations to get a franchise right. Look at the critical difference between UC1 and UC2 or the first couple Crash titles. Now look at BioWare's catalogue. Many of BioWare's games scored higher right out of the gate. They didn't need a sequel to make KOTOR a fantastic game. Naughty Dog did. And influence wise, nothing Naughty Dog has can touch Baldur's Gate 2.[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They're not. All things considered, BioWare has been a MUCH more consistent studio in terms of quality than Naughty Dog has. Now that may change with EA's acquisition, but we'll see. They also make completely different kinds of games. It would be like comparing Bungie to Blizzard. You really can't do it.DarkLink77
How so are they more consistent then Naughty Dog? Uncharted 2 was near flawless and received massive amounts of nearly every award there was. Mass Effect 2 was Bioware's best game and didn't get near the amount of recognition Uncharted 2 has.
Last I checked, their Metacritic average was like... the same. As far as GOTY awards go, UC2 had MUCH less competition than ME2 does. UC2 didn't have to deal with StarCraft II, Halo: Reach, SMG2, Red Dead Redemption, etc, etc. Really, UC2's only competition was DA:O, and Demon's Souls. If UC2 had released alongside the games that ME2 has, it would have won a lot less GOTY awards. As for developer consistency, ND usually takes one or two iterations to get a franchise right. Look at the critical difference between UC1 and UC2 or the first couple Crash titles. Now look at BioWare's catalogue. Many of BioWare's games scored higher right out of the gate. They didn't need a sequel to make KOTOR a fantastic game. Naughty Dog did. And influence wise, nothing Naughty Dog has can touch Baldur's Gate 2. finally someone who knows their stuffThose 2 and Gears of War in my opinion.I like Uncharted 3 more, but these two are undoubtedly the two best new series of the gen imo.
brennan7777
ME2 takes massive wet dumps all over UC2. ME2 kept me playing for multiple play throughs and added DLC for well over 100 hours. UC2 had a good quick SP that was over in 10 hours and a mediocre MP component. It's quite clear to me which game is better. I'm sure PS3 only owners will start to agree come January when they can actually play ME2. HoolaHoopManthe only saving grace of UC 2 was the multiplayer and the amazing graphics, the campaign was easily forgettable.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]ME2 takes massive wet dumps all over UC2. ME2 kept me playing for multiple play throughs and added DLC for well over 100 hours. UC2 had a good quick SP that was over in 10 hours and a mediocre MP component. It's quite clear to me which game is better. I'm sure PS3 only owners will start to agree come January when they can actually play ME2. Dead-Memoriesthe only saving grace of UC 2 was the multiplayer and the amazing graphics, the campaign was easily forgettable. Opposite for me, I loved the SP, but it's just too short. I've been moving away from MP games lately, and I didn't find UC2's very engaging.
[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]ME2 takes massive wet dumps all over UC2. ME2 kept me playing for multiple play throughs and added DLC for well over 100 hours. UC2 had a good quick SP that was over in 10 hours and a mediocre MP component. It's quite clear to me which game is better. I'm sure PS3 only owners will start to agree come January when they can actually play ME2. HoolaHoopManthe only saving grace of UC 2 was the multiplayer and the amazing graphics, the campaign was easily forgettable. Opposite for me, I loved the SP, but it's just too short. I've been moving away from MP games lately, and I didn't find UC2's very engaging. it was one of the better designed MP games this gen to be honest. i had quite a fun time with it, superb graphics, tight controls, smooth P2P and expertly designed maps. ND should focus more on the multiplayer next time around, it could be something special.
I haven't played any of the Uncharteds (due to a lack of PS3) and probably never ever will. The Mass Effect games are fun to play through on the first go, but after that they just get mindnumbingly boring and tedious. Which is a horrible trait for any kind of RPG game.
I pick the Witcher 2.
its a waiste of time comparing games, the best thing is playing both, cause we all know both titles will be amazing..
Well it will be a win/win for PS3 owners but I'm biased so I will say U3 will take all honors next year.
Well think about it like this.
The Cidatel in ME : A living world, populated by hundreds of NPC's, traders, a lot of quests, battles, a night club, and it all felt connected, there were no loading times, all levels felt connected, i know there were elevator waits, but it was part of the immersion. It really felt like a really big epic place.
The Cidatel in ME2 : Two corridors connected together. Game of the generation?
It's obvious what game was influenced by EA, Bioware saved money on all they possibly can, thus making their product feel cheap.
ME3 was another lame CGI trailer >_>The uncharted trailor was a dissapointment and the ME3 trailer was insanely cool... Mass effect has always been, will always be and forever better than uncharted amen.
TheEroica
[QUOTE="TheEroica"]ME3 was another lame CGI trailer >_>The uncharted trailor was a dissapointment and the ME3 trailer was insanely cool... Mass effect has always been, will always be and forever better than uncharted amen.
Ratchet_Fan8
Definitely not lame.
ME3 was another lame CGI trailer >_>[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]
The uncharted trailor was a dissapointment and the ME3 trailer was insanely cool... Mass effect has always been, will always be and forever better than uncharted amen.
waltefmoney
Definitely not lame.
CGI is squat,it doesnt introduce anything but characters and story.Gameplay,worlds and new improvements are whats cool. I was very disappointed with Batman AA trailer ,i still havent seen a gameplay trailer from it :( Maybe ME3 will be a good game and someone would buy it for me for PS3,maybe i'd like it.But CGI trailers are pretty lame and i never get excited over themUC3 will be the better game.No competition people are saying? UC3 is slapping it around.
I will buy both, but if they came out the same day, id have to play UC3 first.
SRTtoZ
I think it will have the same effect. Uncharted 3 will blow me away more than mass effect 3 during the first playthrough, but mass effect 3 will ultimately appeal more in the long run as the buzz dies down around uncharted. Happened with U2 vs Me2..suspect the same. I will enjoy both heavily early on though without doubt.
[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] ME 2 is already as great as UNcharted 2, if not better, and besides a couple of alright platforming series, ND has nothing left. Bioware on the other hand, has KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG 2, NWN Dragon Age, Mass Effect, the old republic and are always at the forefront of the industry. Dead-Memories
ME2 is already as great as Uncharted 2??? Your mistaken greatly. Your opinion is in the minority.
i don't know what world you live in
Funny how Uncharted 2 has almost twice as many reviews and loss mixed/negative reviews. I thought you were trying to prove me wrong?
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