The Wii is not an innovation. Don't make me laugh.

princeofshapeir · 2008-11-22 07:58:45

So I own a Nintendo Wii. It's a fun console and the games are great. I get a lot of playtime out of it, and overall it's a decent machine. But here's the thing:It isn't an innovation.I hear all of the Sheep talking here, telling me about how motion sensing is such a groundbreaking idea in gaming and how Nintendo is pioneering player involvement in video games. And with all of that hype from the fans, I bought a Wii, along with Super Mario Galaxy. When I picked mine up, I thought I'd try out Wii Sports first, since I'm a big tennis enthusiast. So I made a goofy Mii and played against the computer in a doubles game (I wish you could do singles) and tried to incorporate a swift forehand and backhand into my gameplay. I found that I was missing the ball more and more, so I attempte to adjust my sensor bar directly above my TV and try again. Still, my attempts to bring my actual tennis play into the game failed. Then my brother comes up, takes the remote, and tells me that I shouldn't try to be so involved in the game. He started playing and just barely moved his hand, flicking his wrist a little as the ball came close to him. I found he was hitting it dead on and winning every round. I was speechless: this was innovation? Flicking your wrist rather than actually mimic the movements exactly? So I moved on to Super Mario Galaxy. It was fun at first: I was jumping around, spinning Mario around by shaking the remote, and... Wait. 'Shaking' the remote. To spin Mario around. So that was the level of the involvement of the motion sensing in this game: waggling the remote to spin Mario around. I remember the hype for the game way back when: people said you'd be flicking the remote up to make Mario jump, tossing fireballs by actually having to make Mario throw his arm back and pitch like a baseball pitcher. And instead I get what could be done just as good, if not better, on the PS3 or Xbox 360. I didn't see what made this game so exclusive to the Wii control-wise, and by now I was definitely disillusioned by the promises of innovation that Nintendo was selling the Wii on. But hey, the games were still fun, so I kept on playing. I now own Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, and these games don't incorporate motion sensing effectively either (besides aiming to shoot in RE4, which is fun, but that's really the maximum level of motion sensing in the game). Brawl doesn't use it at all, and RE4 just replaced the button-mashing minigames with remote-shaking minigames, and the knife fights now use waggle (which are optional; you don't have to shake the remote to use the knife). So this is what I'm getting from the Wii: a system that has graphics inferior to the competition with a tacked-on motion sensing feature for its games. As for the games, yes, they are fun, but I don't see how most of the killer titles can't be done on the 360 or PS3. It seems to be such a downer to know that the Wii doesn't really deliver on those promises of being able to swing Link's sword or make Mario jump, and instead gives us some lame waggle feature that requires little input from the player. Sheep, your console has some good games on it, but you don't have anything innovative here. If anything, the motion sensing is a letdown, and I'd rather take improved graphics and better online over a tacked-on feature anyday.

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#51 VirtuaCast

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[QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]It's not just innovation it's successful innovation, from a business point of viewprinceofshapeir

Only because Nintendo can paint a Gamecube white and tell people that they'll get healthy and fit from shaking their wrists.

Come on the Wii is more successful then the GameCube.

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#52 princeofshapeir

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]It's not just innovation it's successful innovation, from a business point of viewVirtuaCast

Only because Nintendo can paint a Gamecube white and tell people that they'll get healthy and fit from shaking their wrists.

Come on the Wii is more successful then the GameCube.

Only because Nintendo has falsely marketed it to be a revolution in videogaming.

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#53 princeofshapeir

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You're 2 years late.
At the moment though it's only been good for point and click, and FPS's. I guess the feeling I got from it when my brother had his was that it felt like an arcade in my house. (he had a few on the rail shooters)
Metroid Prime 3 made the Wii's controls awesome.
It's a good console to have with another console, e.g. 360 and Wii.
EuroMafia

I do have a gaming PC along with my Wii, but it's unfortunate that people say that you should own the Wii alongside a separate console. Apparently it wasn't meant to be a stand-alone system?

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#54 VirtuaCast

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[QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]
[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Only because Nintendo can paint a Gamecube white and tell people that they'll get healthy and fit from shaking their wrists.princeofshapeir

Come on the Wii is more successful then the GameCube.

Only because Nintendo has falsely marketed it to be a revolution in videogaming.

Well I could say it was a revolution because Nintendo made it successful and other companies will follow suit, call it what you want but Nintendo did impact the industry and set it's mark on history.

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#55 Hexagon_777

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[QUOTE="Willy105"]
Technically, the Wii is innovative, because other console manufacturers are putting elements from it into their console. Sony added a tilt sensor to their PS3 controller just months after the Wiimote was unveiled in TGS 2005. Microsoft has started a huge campaign to sell the Xbox 360 to casuals, and they have introduced to their system the Avatar, based on the success the feature had on the Wii. Even Sonic Unleashed borrows elements from Super Mario Galaxy, (3D to 2D, music). The Wii is an innovation, there's plenty of proof.princeofshapeir

Sony and Microsoft followed suit only because of the hype and positive reaction from many people following the Wii's unveiling. There's no reason why games like Twilight Princess, Galaxy, Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, and other killer apps couldn't be done on the 360. All of those games use minimal motion sensing.

They could be done on the 360, but I sure as Hell wouldn't want to aim with dual analog in Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3.

At the same time, 360 and PS3 games can be downsized regarding graphics so that one can play them on the Wii.

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#56 EuroMafia

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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]
You're 2 years late.
At the moment though it's only been good for point and click, and FPS's. I guess the feeling I got from it when my brother had his was that it felt like an arcade in my house. (he had a few on the rail shooters)
Metroid Prime 3 made the Wii's controls awesome.
It's a good console to have with another console, e.g. 360 and Wii.
princeofshapeir

I do have a gaming PC along with my Wii, but it's unfortunate that people say that you should own the Wii alongside a separate console. Apparently it wasn't meant to be a stand-alone system?

That was my opinion, and at the moment it does have plenty of great games, but they're not consistent enough.

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#57 farnham

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[QUOTE="VirtuaCast"]
[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Only because Nintendo can paint a Gamecube white and tell people that they'll get healthy and fit from shaking their wrists.princeofshapeir

Come on the Wii is more successful then the GameCube.

Only because Nintendo has falsely marketed it to be a revolution in videogaming.

why they skyrocketed from no. 3 to no.1 they brought in a lot of people that did not care about games the wii still has a lot of games in genres outside of the popular ones i see it as revolutionary and didnt sony say that PS3 will be no.1 without even one game released.. that is false marketing as well

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#58 NinjaMunkey01

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I was talking to someone yesterday who said COD5 was actually better on the wii, the controls felt very natural and were great.

Fact is Nintendo has just gone and changed gaming. They have turned us away from controllers and its a good thing, next gen could be full of motion sensing controllers, and its just another step close to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiiUkh_r7U

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#59 RK-Mara

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If it's not innovative, what is? Or how many consoles with motion sensing do you own? Just try Metroid Prime 3.

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#60 rogelio22

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if they were to downsize games like R2 or gears i would not get them for the wii!!! now if they were to upsize mario galaxy and zelda tp for 360 and ps3 i would gladly buy them again just for the way better graphics not to mention they could expand the games 50 times there size now that is innovation!!!! not gonna hapen though jus saying i prefer the game to look better than trying to use the stupid lil waggly stuff nintendo is getting richer up off

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