The Wii is not an innovation. Don't make me laugh.

So I own a Nintendo Wii.  It's a fun console and the games are great.  I get a lot of playtime out of it, and overall it's a decent machine.  But here's the thing:

It isn't an innovation.

I hear all of the Sheep talking here, telling me about how motion sensing is such a groundbreaking idea in gaming and how Nintendo is pioneering player involvement in video games.  And with all of that hype from the fans, I bought a Wii, along with Super Mario Galaxy.  When I picked mine up, I thought I'd try out Wii Sports first, since I'm a big tennis enthusiast.  So I made a goofy Mii and played against the computer in a doubles game (I wish you could do singles) and tried to incorporate a swift forehand and backhand into my gameplay.  I found that I was missing the ball more and more, so I attempte to adjust my sensor bar directly above my TV and try again.  Still, my attempts to bring my actual tennis play into the game failed.  Then my brother comes up, takes the remote, and tells me that I shouldn't try to be so involved in the game.  He started playing and just barely moved his hand, flicking his wrist a little as the ball came close to him.  I found he was hitting it dead on and winning every round.  I was speechless: this was innovation?  Flicking your wrist rather than actually mimic the movements exactly?  

So I moved on to Super Mario Galaxy.  It was fun at first: I was jumping around, spinning Mario around by shaking the remote, and... Wait.  "Shaking" the remote. To spin Mario around.  So that was the level of the involvement of the motion sensing in this game: waggling the remote to spin Mario around.  I remember the hype for the game way back when: people said you'd be flicking the remote up to make Mario jump, tossing fireballs by actually having to make Mario throw his arm back and pitch like a baseball pitcher.  And instead I get what could be done just as good, if not better, on the PS3 or Xbox 360.  I didn't see what made this game so exclusive to the Wii control-wise, and by now I was definitely disillusioned by the promises of innovation that Nintendo was selling the Wii on.  But hey, the games were still fun, so I kept on playing.  

I now own Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, and these games don't incorporate motion sensing effectively either (besides aiming to shoot in RE4, which is fun, but that's really the maximum level of motion sensing in the game).  Brawl doesn't use it at all, and RE4 just replaced the button-mashing minigames with remote-shaking minigames, and the knife fights now use waggle (which are optional; you don't have to shake the remote to use the knife).  

So this is what I'm getting from the Wii: a system that has graphics inferior to the competition with a tacked-on motion sensing feature for its games.  As for the games, yes, they are fun, but I don't see how most of the killer titles can't be done on the 360 or PS3.  It seems to be such a downer to know that the Wii doesn't really deliver on those promises of being able to swing Link's sword or make Mario jump, and instead gives us some lame waggle feature that requires little input from the player.  

Sheep, your console has some good games on it, but you don't have anything innovative here.  If anything, the motion sensing is a letdown, and I'd rather take improved graphics and better online over a tacked-on feature anyday.

Perhaps you should try WarioWare? It has all the motion controls you could ever ask for.

Or Metroid Prime 3? Nice shooter, aiming is accurate, using the remote is to interact with certain obstacle works.

You just need to find the right game, pal. Even us Nintendo devouts admit not every Wii game works.

Perhaps you should try WarioWare? It has all the motion controls you could ever ask for.

Or Metroid Prime 3? Nice shooter, aiming is accurate, using the remote is to interact with certain obstacle works.

You just need to find the right game, pal. Even us Nintendo devouts admit not every Wii game works.

Nintendoguy325

Perhaps you should try WarioWare? It has all the motion controls you could ever ask for.

Or Metroid Prime 3? Nice shooter, aiming is accurate, using the remote is to interact with certain obstacle works.

You just need to find the right game, pal. Even us Nintendo devouts admit not every Wii game works.

[QUOTE="Nintendoguy325"]

Perhaps you should try WarioWare? It has all the motion controls you could ever ask for.

Or Metroid Prime 3? Nice shooter, aiming is accurate, using the remote is to interact with certain obstacle works.

You just need to find the right game, pal. Even us Nintendo devouts admit not every Wii game works.

princeofshapeir

Although I have to admit that the Wii-mote is flawed, it is a step in the right direction, and definitely more innovative than improved graphics and better online, both features that have been around since last gen. I would rather play a shooter on the Wii than the 360 or the PS3 if I had to choose between a console for shooting games, mainly because once you play a shooter with a Wii-mote, there's no way you're going back to Dual Analogs, kind of how you would appreciate Goldeneye and Perfect Dark for the N64, but would never be able to enjoy it because how awkward the controls are. Nice try, though, although your credibility is seriously in doubt once I saw your sig.hiphops_savior

I was expecting what everybody else was expecting, and that was intuitive controls where I would mimic the movement on screen exactly. Instead I got wrist-shaking.princeofshapeir

Innovation is something that is new. motion controls are not new, but the Wii perfected the idea of motion controls to a very large extent. I dont know what ur talking about the controls work fine for me. Your expectations are a bit high. Motion technology has a long way to go. The only thing that i can think of right now that accuratly imitates a users motion are those huge mats with a jumpsuit with wires attached that are used to animate 3d characters bones or skeletons. heard that those cost 20,000 dollars.

ollars.

So I own a Nintendo Wii. It's a fun console and the games are great. I get a lot of playtime out of it, and overall it's a decent machine. But here's the thing:

It isn't an innovation.

I hear all of the Sheep talking here, telling me about how motion sensing is such a groundbreaking idea in gaming and how Nintendo is pioneering player involvement in video games. And with all of that hype from the fans, I bought a Wii, along with Super Mario Galaxy. When I picked mine up, I thought I'd try out Wii Sports first, since I'm a big tennis enthusiast. So I made a goofy Mii and played against the computer in a doubles game (I wish you could do singles) and tried to incorporate a swift forehand and backhand into my gameplay. I found that I was missing the ball more and more, so I attempte to adjust my sensor bar directly above my TV and try again. Still, my attempts to bring my actual tennis play into the game failed. Then my brother comes up, takes the remote, and tells me that I shouldn't try to be so involved in the game. He started playing and just barely moved his hand, flicking his wrist a little as the ball came close to him. I found he was hitting it dead on and winning every round. I was speechless: this was innovation? Flicking your wrist rather than actually mimic the movements exactly?

So I moved on to Super Mario Galaxy. It was fun at first: I was jumping around, spinning Mario around by shaking the remote, and... Wait. "Shaking" the remote. To spin Mario around. So that was the level of the involvement of the motion sensing in this game: waggling the remote to spin Mario around. I remember the hype for the game way back when: people said you'd be flicking the remote up to make Mario jump, tossing fireballs by actually having to make Mario throw his arm back and pitch like a baseball pitcher. And instead I get what could be done just as good, if not better, on the PS3 or Xbox 360. I didn't see what made this game so exclusive to the Wii control-wise, and by now I was definitely disillusioned by the promises of innovation that Nintendo was selling the Wii on. But hey, the games were still fun, so I kept on playing.

I now own Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, and these games don't incorporate motion sensing effectively either (besides aiming to shoot in RE4, which is fun, but that's really the maximum level of motion sensing in the game). Brawl doesn't use it at all, and RE4 just replaced the button-mashing minigames with remote-shaking minigames, and the knife fights now use waggle (which are optional; you don't have to shake the remote to use the knife).

So this is what I'm getting from the Wii: a system that has graphics inferior to the competition with a tacked-on motion sensing feature for its games. As for the games, yes, they are fun, but I don't see how most of the killer titles can't be done on the 360 or PS3. It seems to be such a downer to know that the Wii doesn't really deliver on those promises of being able to swing Link's sword or make Mario jump, and instead gives us some lame waggle feature that requires little input from the player.

Sheep, your console has some good games on it, but you don't have anything innovative here. If anything, the motion sensing is a letdown, and I'd rather take improved graphics and better online over a tacked-on feature anyday.

princeofshapeir

I really disagree the Wii is HIGHLY INNOVATIVE but not really perfected

kinda like how the first light bulb only lasted a couple seconds before it burnt out...the first light bulb was highly innovative but not perfect

you could say the same thing about almost anything the first tv, the first phone, first computer, they are all innovative ideas but take time to perfect

i expect the next console to be more realistic so that the movements require more than a flick of the wrist

Innovation is something that is new. motion controls are not new, but the Wii perfected the idea of motion controls to a very large extent. I dont know what ur talking about the controls work fine for me. Your expectations are a bit high. Motion technology has a long way to go. The only thing that i can think of right now that accuratly imitates a users motion are those huge mats with a jumpsuit with wires attached that are used to animate 3d characters bones or skeletons. heard that those cost 20,000 dollars.

painguy1

the controls work fine but i think hes means how most games can be played sitting down and just flicking your wrist and litterally not moving you arm at all

im actually better in tennis and most other games sitting down rather than standing and trying to do a full swing of the arm

Wii is not an innovation it's a revolution and an un-stoppable sales phenomenon. Wii is, in short, a juggernaut. The Wii controller is an innovation...

Try playing Trauma Center or Warioware on a D-pad ;)

It is an innovation.

so in short graphics are the most important thing in the world blah blah

i didnt even read your OP btw 

i got all 3 systems and i gotta admit graphics > wii mote that little waggle you do is not cool you could of just as easily pushed a button to do the same thing. and mario galaxy while its an excellent game could of been done better on the ps3 and 360 imagine it in full 1080p:orogelio22

so by your definition innovation is bringing something new to the table so theat means 360 and ps3 are also innovation they both brought hd gaming to consoles:Progelio22

so by your definition innovation is bringing something new to the table so theat means 360 and ps3 are also innovation they both brought hd gaming to consoles:Progelio22

It's not just innovation it's successful innovation, from a business point of viewVirtuaCast

You're 2 years late.

At the moment though it's only been good for point and click, and FPS's. I guess the feeling I got from it when my brother had his was that it felt like an arcade in my house. (he had a few on the rail shooters)

Metroid Prime 3 made the Wii's controls awesome.

It's a good console to have with another console, e.g. 360 and Wii.