The truth is out, Forza 3 graphics not so great (NO 56K)

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#201 opex07
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I edited my post after i found out your line was deceivingly not straight. Make sense now?Rza_rectah

My lines are straight, I used the line tool in adobe photoshop, and I am aware of your edit it was included in my quote, but I still dont understand what your trying to say especially when you say "oh its straight but its not".?

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#202 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

I edited my post after i found out your line was deceivingly not straight. Make sense now?

My lines are straight, I used the line tool in adobe photoshop, and I am aware of your edit it was included in my quote, but I still dont understand what your trying to say especially when you say "oh its straight but its not".?

i meant not straight in comparison to the car. you may have drew you line with adobe but that means nothing. You should have quoted what I said enitirely not just half of what I said.
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#203 DdoubleT
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"Shadows can be in the form of a straight line when being casted over several different landscapes. I believe you are expecting the line to be un-even, but in real-life shadows can be in a straight line, its just that most shots/photos are taken in such an angle to make shadows appear to be un-even to provide a clear sense of depth to the viewer."

You're completely missing the issue. I'm not talking about the shape of the shadow edge, but the extent to which it is "cast". Go back and look at the picture. The spot on the car where the shadow ends is not consistent with the height of the wall (and to Rza_rectah, if you follow the shadow into the distance, you can clearly see it's supposed to be the wall's shadow). In other words, half of the car should not be shrouded in shadow, only the bottom left quarter should be. If the lighting engine were truly dynamic, that line you drew would lead to the inside edge of the wall, not up into the sky.

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#204 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="DdoubleT"]

"Shadows can be in the form of a straight line when being casted over several different landscapes. I believe you are expecting the line to be un-even, but in real-life shadows can be in a straight line, its just that most shots/photos are taken in such an angle to make shadows appear to be un-even to provide a clear sense of depth to the viewer."

You're completely missing the issue. I'm not talking about the shape of the shadow edge, but the extent to which it is "cast". Go back and look at the picture. The spot on the car where the shadow ends is not consistent with the height of the wall (and to Rza_rectah, if you follow the shadow into the distance, you can clearly see it's supposed to be the wall's shadow). In other words, half of the car should not be shrouded in shadow, only the bottom left quarter should be. If the lighting engine were truly dynamic, that line you drew would lead to the inside edge of the wall, not up into the sky.

Oh its the wall casting it LMAO thats way off then.
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#205 TREAL_Since
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I know one thing: The demo doesn't look as good as it was advertised :(. Game still looks great though.
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#206 killerfist
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I know one thing: The demo doesn't look as good as it was advertised :(. Game still looks great though.TREAL_Since
Well yeah, that's the point of advertising.:P The game looks great, and it improved alot over Forza 2. That makes it a buy for me.

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#207 opex07
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"Shadows can be in the form of a straight line when being casted over several different landscapes. I believe you are expecting the line to be un-even, but in real-life shadows can be in a straight line, its just that most shots/photos are taken in such an angle to make shadows appear to be un-even to provide a clear sense of depth to the viewer."

You're completely missing the issue. I'm not talking about the shape of the shadow edge, but the extent to which it is "cast". Go back and look at the picture. The spot on the car where the shadow ends is not consistent with the height of the wall (and to Rza_rectah, if you follow the shadow into the distance, you can clearly see it's supposed to be the wall's shadow). In other words, half of the car should not be shrouded in shadow, only the bottom left quarter should be. If the lighting engine were truly dynamic, that line you drew would lead to the inside edge of the wall, not up into the sky.

DdoubleT
Its not the height of the wall that's causing that cast shadow in that spot of the race, its the hillside to the left of the wall, the wall itself isn't tall enough to create a shadow on the top of your car, which is the case when the wall is the only thing casting a shadow on your car in the demo.
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#208 abuabed
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It looks great :o
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#209 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Forza3´s hate is too out of controll!! :?

EndorphinMaster

Cows are just bitter because in the time it's taking Poly to develop GT5, the 360 already got 3 Forza games.

Really a third one?Which one is it?

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#210 Walker34
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the game looks great. you are on crack.

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#211 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="spike6566"]lol makes me wonder, who should i believe? the lemmings here, or the lemmings on that thread? think ill pick the lemmings at the xbox forums thread, they seem to be more honest there. vaderhater

Why do you hang out there to begin with? We all know you hate the 360. Pretty sad if you ask me.

it's not like he's the only person on SW that does pathetiic stuff like that..

I think it's sad ,in genral that people are posting pics of games ,and nitpicking the tiniest of jaggies (regardless of it being either Ps3 or 360 game)

instead of actually Ya know?..playing the games.

*EDIT*...and I could care less about either F3 or GT5 considering I loathe racing games.

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#212 Magik85
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Every game looks better in motion. Screenshots let you analyze the little details.aaronmullan
Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

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#213 aero250
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Forza 3 looks incredible, just as good as the GAMEPLAY we have all seen, Don't know what your on about.
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#214 aero250
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Every game looks better in motion. Screenshots let you analyze the little details.Magik85

Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

As i said Forza 3 looks incredible.
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#215 aero250
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Sorry TC, but Forza 3 looks fantastic on my TV

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#216 devilsoultaker2
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Pinball Racing Mode !!!
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#217 LemmingReborn
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Sorry TC, but Forza 3 looks fantastic on my TV

aero250
is that replay mode? forza 3 looks good but im a little dissappointed in the slight downgrade from replay to gameplay. but still imo the environments are amazing and the damage is pretty good too.
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#218 aero250
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[QUOTE="LemmingReborn"][QUOTE="aero250"]

Sorry TC, but Forza 3 looks fantastic on my TV

is that replay mode? forza 3 looks good but im a little dissappointed in the slight downgrade from replay to gameplay. but still imo the environments are amazing and the damage is pretty good too.

Nop gameplay, the fact is Forza 3 looks amazing, yes not as good as some of the shots posted, but still amazing.
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#219 aero250
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Pinball Racing Mode !!!  devilsoultaker2
I had to look to see what you mean and WTF is was that all about?
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#220 LemmingReborn
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[QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]Pinball Racing Mode !!! aero250
I had to look to see what you mean and WTF is was that all about?

its teh superior physics engine of gt not
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#221 mayforcebeyou
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it look pretty good and it's just it's been overhyped in graphics
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#222 aero250
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[QUOTE="aero250"][QUOTE="devilsoultaker2"]Pinball Racing Mode !!! LemmingReborn
I had to look to see what you mean and WTF is was that all about?

its teh superior physics engine of gt not

Seriously PD need to do better than this, After 4 years + in development.
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#223 aero250
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it look pretty good and it's just it's been overhyped in graphicsmayforcebeyou
Yeh people expected too much from this game, and the funny this is we saw gameplay similar to the demo, but people still expected a miracle.
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#224 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Every game looks better in motion. Screenshots let you analyze the little details.Magik85

Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

Yet GT5 will look better. ;)

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#225 navyguy21
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Yet GT5 will look better. ;)

jakehouston88

lol, no one takes you seriously dude lol

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#226 aero250
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

[QUOTE="Magik85"]

Every game looks better in motion. Screenshots let you analyze the little details.aaronmullan
Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

Yet GT5 will look better. ;)

Well it should 4 + years of dev time, Not that it actually maters only cows care, I personally am buying Forza 3 for it's fantastic physics, Community, Online etc.
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#227 Phreek300
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those graphics are acceptable. I see this looking even better at release anyways. You all know graphics don't always make the game right?

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#228 aero250
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those graphics are acceptable. I see this looking even better at release anyways. You all know graphics don't always make the game right?

Phreek300
I don't care for graphics that much, but forza 2 had acceptable graphics, Forza 3 on the other hand has fantastic graphics that fit in with the times (2009)
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#229 horgen  Moderator
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Why not wait for the actual games of Forza 3 and GT5 then compare? Imo both games look great. The differences are there, but really how much will it affect your gaming experience?
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#230 nhh18
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[QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]it look pretty good and it's just it's been overhyped in graphicsaero250
Yeh people expected too much from this game, and the funny this is we saw gameplay similar to the demo, but people still expected a miracle.

It looks alot worse than pgr4.

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#231 aero250
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Why not wait for the actual games of Forza 3 and GT5 then compare? Imo both games look great. The differences are there, but really how much will it affect your gaming experience? horgen123
Yeh the physics in Forza 3 are amazing, So even if the graphics were average i could care less.
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#232 aero250
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[QUOTE="aero250"][QUOTE="mayforcebeyou"]it look pretty good and it's just it's been overhyped in graphicsnhh18

Yeh people expected too much from this game, and the funny this is we saw gameplay similar to the demo, but people still expected a miracle.

It looks alot worse than pgr4.

lol wut? Above Forza 3 clearly out performs GT5P then in that case PGR4 > GT5P.
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#233 W1NGMAN-
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The deceiving pics that kept the FM3 graphical hype train rollin...so many people owned in one thread :o

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#234 Liquid_DC
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Forza 3 looks incredible, just as good as the GAMEPLAY we have all seen, Don't know what your on about.aero250
LMAO!!!!
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#235 Liquid_DC
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[QUOTE="Magik85"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Every game looks better in motion. Screenshots let you analyze the little details.jakehouston88

Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

Yet GT5 will look better. ;)

besides that gt5 pic is from the demo tht came out in dec 06, not even gt5p, and that forza shot still looks horible

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#236 aero250
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[QUOTE="aero250"]Forza 3 looks incredible, just as good as the GAMEPLAY we have all seen, Don't know what your on about.Liquid_DC
LMAO!!!!

Can you not read the gameplay we have seen as in E3 stage demo or vids on Gametrailers.
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#237 Panosola
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The Forza 3 graphics are awesome.The game is very good....for more and better photos go here and you will see....

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forzamotorsport3/images/0/15/?tag=thumbs_below;thumb;15

The graphics are just perfect.:shock:

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#238 aero250
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The deceiving pics that kept the FM3 graphical hype train rollin...so many people owned in one thread :o

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Have you played the demo? The game looks great, Sure not as good as those screens, but stll great.
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#239 aero250
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

[QUOTE="Magik85"] Ok so lets analize the details of GAMEPLAY shots.

Source - http://www.gameswire.net/screenshots/forza-motorsport-3-better-than-gt5p-after-all_179.html

Liquid_DC

Yet GT5 will look better. ;)

besides that gt5 pic is from the demo tht came out in dec 06, not even gt5p, and that forza shot still looks horible

Horrible? Seriously fanboys on here amaze me :lol:

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#240 Nick_851
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Forza 3's cardboard cut out crowds

This game has terrible graphics, please don't ever insult GT5 again by comparing it to garbage like this. Turn 10 should be fired.

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#242 aero250
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[QUOTE="Nick_851"]

Forza 3's cardboard cut out crowds

This game has terrible graphics, please don't ever insult GT5 again by comparing it to garbage like this. Turn 10 should be fired.

Actually the cardboard cut outs look decent, As for GT5 don't compare forza 3 to an arcade racing game. PS lol at you looking for the worst possible shots you could find.
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#243 aero250
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And you are comparing a two year old build of GT5 in those pics above, are you really that dense?

Nick_851
Why are you comparing Forza 3 (2 years dev time) to GT5 (4 years dev time)?
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#244 zaibutzu
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Is that last gen?
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#245 Malta_1980
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Seriously guys, i hope nobody expected F3 to look like all the bullshots or 'replay' mode vids that circulated in the boards the past couple of months... Having played the demo for s couple of days i can say F3 does look great... Imo GT5 will surpass it visually but for that we have to wait till it gets released and then be able to compare the 2 games..

What the F3 demo showed however is what imo is a significantlack of gameplay/physics/damage improvements i expected.. F3 feels like F2 in better visuals... it also looks like Turn 10 somehow made the game 'easier, or better say much more accessible to newcomers..

I'll still get F3 1st day upon release cause being a racing fan i surely cannot afford to miss playing this great title, hopefully the final game wont disappoint me like the demo..

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#246 Liquid_DC
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i cant believe the devs tried to tell everyone there game was the best looking racer. LMAO

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#247 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Nick_851"]

And you are comparing a two year old build of GT5 in those pics above, are you really that dense?

aero250

Why are you comparing Forza 3 (2 years dev time) to GT5 (4 years dev time)?

why do people keep bringing up the 2+ more years PD took to creat the game comapred to F3... i hope people do realise that having 400+ more cars take much more time to create, right??

Also like myself you seem like a Forza fan, so i ask you HONESTLY did you find F3 improved significantly in the damage system / physics & overall gameplay?? (i refer to your impressions from the F3 demo which as devs said is representative of what the final game will play/look)

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#248 aero250
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[QUOTE="Liquid_DC"]

i cant believe the devs tried to tell everyone there game was the best looking racer. LMAO

I can't believe PD call GT the ulitmate driving simulator, Now this is LMFAO worthy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr2us7TpKqI
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#249 aero250
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="aero250"][QUOTE="Nick_851"]

And you are comparing a two year old build of GT5 in those pics above, are you really that dense?

Why are you comparing Forza 3 (2 years dev time) to GT5 (4 years dev time)?

why do people keep bringing up the 2+ more years PD took to creat the game comapred to F3... i hope people do realise that having 400+ more cars take much more time to create, right??

Also like myself you seem like a Forza fan, so i ask you HONESTLY did you find F3 improved significantly in the damage system / physics & overall gameplay?? (i refer to your impressions from the F3 demo which as devs said is representative of what the final game will play/look)

Damage, No apart from roll over Physics and gameplay are incredible Graphically the game looks amazing, but not as good as some shots.
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#250 II_Seraphim_II
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Forza aint no GT5 in the graphics department, but it still looks great :D