The Post E3 Wii U Sticky (you guessed it, keep it here)

Im embarassed for Nintendo right now. I feel like they are making evenless progress for this generation then the last one.

-Does this thing even have voice chat?

-Friend codes are still around

-Current gen graphics (WHY!?!? its seems harder to match graphics of consoles realeased 7 years ago than to outperform them)

-no launch titles or even launch window games I am interested in

- Im unsure whether I like all the different controller options

- Battery life is terrible for the controller

- Pikmin and NSMBU dont have online (WTH) these are launch titles show what your system is capable of

Ultimately, it wouldnt suprise me if the Wii U fails. Nintendo didn't strategize correctly by not having bigger IP's ready for launch.

I hate myself for saying this but I kinda hope this console tanks so Nintendo may go the route of Sega.

BlizzardBear

The WiiU is gonna be sick! I can't wait for Zelda, Smash Bros., Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong and Kirby games. I know they are all gonna come eventually so I'm excited. I really want a new Mario Golf and Mario Tennis game :) I'm going to enjoy the **** out of the WiiU. Plus when the PS4 comes out i'll buy that too. That way I get my awesome Nintendo and whatever Sony does. As long as I have my 1st party Nintendo I'll be fine with the WiiU.RyanShazam

Yeah, that's why I keep buying Nintendo systems. Their 1st party offerings are completely unrivaled. Also Pikmin 3 alone is enough for me to swoon over Nintendo's next console. I'm playing the New Play Control Pikmin 2 that just released here in North America and it's reminding me why it's my favourite game ever made.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]The WiiU is gonna be sick! I can't wait for Zelda, Smash Bros., Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong and Kirby games. I know they are all gonna come eventually so I'm excited. I really want a new Mario Golf and Mario Tennis game :) I'm going to enjoy the **** out of the WiiU. Plus when the PS4 comes out i'll buy that too. That way I get my awesome Nintendo and whatever Sony does. As long as I have my 1st party Nintendo I'll be fine with the WiiU.Pikminmaniac

Yeah, that's why I keep buying Nintendo systems. Their 1st party offerings are completely unrivaled. Also Pikmin 3 alone is enough for me to swoon over Nintendo's next console. I'm playing the New Play Control Pikmin 2 that just released here in North America and it's reminding me why it's my favourite game ever made.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]The WiiU is gonna be sick! I can't wait for Zelda, Smash Bros., Mario, Metroid, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong and Kirby games. I know they are all gonna come eventually so I'm excited. I really want a new Mario Golf and Mario Tennis game :) I'm going to enjoy the **** out of the WiiU. Plus when the PS4 comes out i'll buy that too. That way I get my awesome Nintendo and whatever Sony does. As long as I have my 1st party Nintendo I'll be fine with the WiiU.bonesawisready5

Yeah, that's why I keep buying Nintendo systems. Their 1st party offerings are completely unrivaled. Also Pikmin 3 alone is enough for me to swoon over Nintendo's next console. I'm playing the New Play Control Pikmin 2 that just released here in North America and it's reminding me why it's my favourite game ever made.

Everyone has a counter and noone concurs with another. System wars is just as I remember.

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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Yeah, that's why I keep buying Nintendo systems. Their 1st party offerings are completely unrivaled. Also Pikmin 3 alone is enough for me to swoon over Nintendo's next console. I'm playing the New Play Control Pikmin 2 that just released here in North America and it's reminding me why it's my favourite game ever made.

RyanShazam

I can't wait for Pikmin 3. I'm playing through NPC Pikmin 2 as well. Logged 10+ hours in the last two days!

Ima need to pick up Pikmin 2 again. I used to watch my friend play all the time and loved it! Pikmin 3 looks great! That plus Mario, ZombiU, P-100, and the 3rd party offerings have me excited from the start.

I need to pick them both up. The only time I played them was when I rented Pikmin 2. I wasn't really into gaming at that point so I just kind of forgot about it, but man do I want to play that/those games again. Pikmin 1 shouldn't be too hard, but apparently Pikmin 2 is rare, according to my Gamestop.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

I can't wait for Pikmin 3. I'm playing through NPC Pikmin 2 as well. Logged 10+ hours in the last two days!

TilxWLOC

Ima need to pick up Pikmin 2 again. I used to watch my friend play all the time and loved it! Pikmin 3 looks great! That plus Mario, ZombiU, P-100, and the 3rd party offerings have me excited from the start.

I need to pick them both up. The only time I played them was when I rented Pikmin 2. I wasn't really into gaming at that point so I just kind of forgot about it, but man do I want to play that/those games again. Pikmin 1 shouldn't be too hard, but apparently Pikmin 2 is rare, according to my Gamestop.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Ima need to pick up Pikmin 2 again. I used to watch my friend play all the time and loved it! Pikmin 3 looks great! That plus Mario, ZombiU, P-100, and the 3rd party offerings have me excited from the start.

RyanShazam

I need to pick them both up. The only time I played them was when I rented Pikmin 2. I wasn't really into gaming at that point so I just kind of forgot about it, but man do I want to play that/those games again. Pikmin 1 shouldn't be too hard, but apparently Pikmin 2 is rare, according to my Gamestop.

Are you looking for the Wii version or the GameCube original?

Well, I've actually been saving up some dough for Xenoblade, but when I was last looking I'm pretty sure only Pikmin 1 had New Play Control here in NA. I guess that isn't the case now, so either one, really, whichever I find first. Gamedude, is good for all kinds of games even usually rare ones, but its too far out of my way to check.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

I need to pick them both up. The only time I played them was when I rented Pikmin 2. I wasn't really into gaming at that point so I just kind of forgot about it, but man do I want to play that/those games again. Pikmin 1 shouldn't be too hard, but apparently Pikmin 2 is rare, according to my Gamestop.

TilxWLOC

Are you looking for the Wii version or the GameCube original?

Well, I've actually been saving up some dough for Xenoblade, but when I was last looking I'm pretty sure only Pikmin 1 had New Play Control here in NA. I guess that isn't the case now, so either one, really, whichever I find first. Gamedude, is good for all kinds of games even usually rare ones, but its too far out of my way to check.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Are you looking for the Wii version or the GameCube original?

RyanShazam

Well, I've actually been saving up some dough for Xenoblade, but when I was last looking I'm pretty sure only Pikmin 1 had New Play Control here in NA. I guess that isn't the case now, so either one, really, whichever I find first. Gamedude, is good for all kinds of games even usually rare ones, but its too far out of my way to check.

I'm pretty sure you can just walk into a Walmart or Target and get the New Play Control version. I want to say I saw Walmart advertising it today.

Cool, thanks.

If Nintedno wants next gen they need to release Super Smash Bros. 4 on launch day! That would be a day 1 buy for everyone who calls themselves a gamer.RyanShazam

Smash Bros is boring as hell after a few hours. I don't get how people can stand playing it.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]If Nintedno wants next gen they need to release Super Smash Bros. 4 on launch day! That would be a day 1 buy for everyone who calls themselves a gamer.ChubbyGuy40

Smash Bros is boring as hell after a few hours. I don't get how people can stand playing it.

If Nintedno wants next gen they need to release Super Smash Bros. 4 on launch day! That would be a day 1 buy for everyone who calls themselves a gamer.RyanShazam

Development of that game started back in April. You won't be seeing that until at least 2014.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]If Nintedno wants next gen they need to release Super Smash Bros. 4 on launch day! That would be a day 1 buy for everyone who calls themselves a gamer.ChubbyGuy40

Smash Bros is boring as hell after a few hours. I don't get how people can stand playing it.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]If Nintedno wants next gen they need to release Super Smash Bros. 4 on launch day! That would be a day 1 buy for everyone who calls themselves a gamer.TyberZannxxxx

Development of that game started back in April. You won't be seeing that until at least 2014.

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"] I can think of a couple people of the top of my head. That this even had to be questioned is amazing. Haziqonfire

Meanwhile Nintendo seems intent to keep the Wii U a deliberately confusing product offering.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"] I can think of a couple people of the top of my head. That this even had to be questioned is amazing. shinrabanshou

Meanwhile Nintendo seems intent to keep the Wii U a deliberately confusing product offering.

it was justified but it was still selling from brand name alone....,

i really hope the wiiu is a success just for the sake of getting SW jelly

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] It's System Wars. By the time the Wii U is out we'll be seeing doom and gloom stories again a la last year when the 3DS came out. Mario1331

Meanwhile Nintendo seems intent to keep the Wii U a deliberately confusing product offering.

it was justified but it was still selling from brand name alone....,

i really hope the wiiu is a success just for the sake of getting SW jelly

Agreed. Too much Nintendo hating. Hate the Wii, hate Nintendo's past decisions, I don't care, but don't forget the good times too, damnit!

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] It's System Wars. By the time the Wii U is out we'll be seeing doom and gloom stories again a la last year when the 3DS came out. Mario1331

Meanwhile Nintendo seems intent to keep the Wii U a deliberately confusing product offering.

it was justified but it was still selling from brand name alone....,

i really hope the wiiu is a success just for the sake of getting SW jelly

That would be very entertaining.

Current Beyond3D hardware rumor:

From what I hear (and I trust my source on this as reliable), the CPU chip in WiiU is almost certainly weaker than Xenon & Cell. Which is why some devs have outright refused to port their existing (in-development) PS360 games to it. I believe Nintendo indended the GPU compute support to make up the difference for their weak CPU choice, however the CPU performance is so bad that devs would be required to refactor their entire engines to get stuff working on the GPU instead, and for many dev that would be impossible on their current project schedules.

A tri-core CPU from IBM's best architecture, is weaker than 2005 hardware? That isn't believable in the least bit, especially when developers said they're adding extra features seen on the PC versions of the multiplat where the 360/PS3 versions will not. It also just doesn't seem wise for Nintendo to bet on that GPGPU stuff, and it doesn't seem like them since they usually wait for tech to be proven (if it doesn't relate to gameplay that is.)

And we already know it can't be that bad if devs like Vigil and Gearbox have their games running in just a few weeks and only a handful of people working on it.

Current Beyond3D hardware rumor:

From what I hear (and I trust my source on this as reliable), the CPU chip in WiiU is almost certainly weaker than Xenon & Cell. Which is why some devs have outright refused to port their existing (in-development) PS360 games to it. I believe Nintendo indended the GPU compute support to make up the difference for their weak CPU choice, however the CPU performance is so bad that devs would be required to refactor their entire engines to get stuff working on the GPU instead, and for many dev that would be impossible on their current project schedules.

shinrabanshou

Fake! POWER7 wipes the floor with Xenon and Cell.

Current Beyond3D hardware rumor:

From what I hear (and I trust my source on this as reliable), the CPU chip in WiiU is almost certainly weaker than Xenon & Cell. Which is why some devs have outright refused to port their existing (in-development) PS360 games to it. I believe Nintendo indended the GPU compute support to make up the difference for their weak CPU choice, however the CPU performance is so bad that devs would be required to refactor their entire engines to get stuff working on the GPU instead, and for many dev that would be impossible on their current project schedules.

shinrabanshou

Wow just watched Nintendo conference, seriously how can any1 be excited of WiiU ??

Nice it now supports 2controllers tho:P

Wow just watched Nintendo conference, seriously how can any1 be excited of WiiU ??

Nice it now supports 2controllers tho:P

aroxx_ab

ZombiU, Rayman Origins, and new control schemes and/or content for multiplats. Nintendo Land actually looks fun too. Hope it supports online.

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Wow just watched Nintendo conference, seriously how can any1 be excited of WiiU ??

Nice it now supports 2controllers tho:P

ChubbyGuy40

ZombiU, Rayman Origins, and new control schemes and/or content for multiplats. Nintendo Land actually looks fun too. Hope it supports online.

A tri-core CPU from IBM's best architecture, is weaker than 2005 hardware?ChubbyGuy40

IBM have never actually said anything in their PR about a POWER7 microprocessor - only that it's Power-based - which the Broadway technically is - and will contain eDRAM, which they give as an example of "advanced technology". Engadget are the ones that have said it's "the same processor technology found in Watson."

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A tri-core CPU from IBM's best architecture, is weaker than 2005 hardware?shinrabanshou

IBM have never actually said anything in their PR about a POWER7 microprocessor - only that it's Power-based - which the Broadway technically is - and will contain eDRAM, which they give as an example of "advanced technology". Engadget are the ones that have said it's "the same processor technology found in Watson."

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A tri-core CPU from IBM's best architecture, is weaker than 2005 hardware?shinrabanshou

IBM have never actually said anything in their PR about a POWER7 microprocessor - only that it's Power-based - which the Broadway technically is - and will contain eDRAM, which they give as an example of "advanced technology". Engadget are the ones that have said it's "the same processor technology found in Watson."

I'm reluctant to believe anything said on a forum about hardware.Even though I don't think the WiiU is some powerhouse I doubt ninty would be dumb enough to put the Wii/GCN CPU in the console.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

A tri-core CPU from IBM's best architecture, is weaker than 2005 hardware?bonesawisready5

IBM have never actually said anything in their PR about a POWER7 microprocessor - only that it's Power-based - which the Broadway technically is - and will contain eDRAM, which they give as an example of "advanced technology". Engadget are the ones that have said it's "the same processor technology found in Watson."

No proven record which is why I wrote not sure if credible.

Current Beyond3D hardware shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Should have put the corresponding rumor from last year that claims it's not POWER7 derivative but actually derivative of the Wii's Broadway microprocessor. Except tricore and clocked faster. Again not sure how credible.

IBM have never actually said anything in their PR about a POWER7 microprocessor - only that it's Power-based - which the Broadway technically is - and will contain eDRAM, which they give as an example of "advanced technology". Engadget are the ones that have said it's "the same processor technology found in Watson."

shinrabanshou

No proven record which is why I wrote not sure if credible.

Engadet said IBM told them that. So are you saying Engadet could be lying? (Not accusing you of that, just wondering how this is all playing out) Engadet article herebonesawisready5

When all it really means is that it's Power-based like IBM have said in their press release.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Current Beyond3D hardware ShuichiChamp24

• Quad Core, 3 GHz PowerPC-based 45nm CPU, very similar to the Xbox 360 chip. The CPU features two threads per core, 2-4 MB L3 cache, and 256B of L2 cache per core
• 768 MB of DRAM ?embedded? with the CPU, and shared between CPU and GPU
• Custom, Nintendo-made Wii U operating system that runs on a separate, ARM-based processor.

The Engadget article seems to be moreso speculation and an overeagerness to jump to conclusions based on said speculation. IBM's release has only said the WiiU is getting a "power-based" adaptor with no such mention of Watson if I remember correctly. I'm excited but we don't properly know what the console is going to be capable of until we start getting more official information.

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Current Beyond3D hardware shinrabanshou

• Quad Core, 3 GHz PowerPC-based 45nm CPU, very similar to the Xbox 360 chip. The CPU features two threads per core, 2-4 MB L3 cache, and 256B of L2 cache per core
• 768 MB of DRAM ?embedded? with the CPU, and shared between CPU and GPU
• Custom, Nintendo-made Wii U operating system that runs on a separate, ARM-based processor.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Wow just watched Nintendo conference, seriously how can any1 be excited of WiiU ??

Nice it now supports 2controllers tho:P

ChubbyGuy40

ZombiU, Rayman Origins, and new control schemes and/or content for multiplats. Nintendo Land actually looks fun too. Hope it supports online.

Rayman Origins looked good but can play Rayman elsewhere, only game that didn't look kiddie/meh was that Alien shooter but then again i can play that on PC.

Don't hold your expectations to high with the online, you will more likely get disappointed. Nindendo have lots to learn from Microsoft when it come to an online service.

Nintendo have long way to go before i am willing to buy WiiU.

Rayman Origins looked good but can play Rayman elsewhere, only game that didn't look kiddie/meh was that Alien shooter but then again i can play that on PC.

Don't hold your expectations to high with the online, you will more likely get disappointed. Nindendo have lots to learn from Microsoft when it come to an online service.

Nintendo have long way to go before i am willing to buy WiiU.

aroxx_ab

You can't play Rayman Legends elsewhere. Darksiders 2 wasn't kiddie, and I sure as hell know it was nothing short of amazing. There were plenty of non-kiddie games.

Why not? Even Nintendo knows online by now as demonstrated with the 3DS. Yeah no, Microsoft needs to learn from Nintendo (and Sony, and PC.) Nintendo already has groups, chat, video chat, and voice chat. Free online and a new friend-code based system. Every game will also be available digitally. There's nothing for them to learn except when to do some DD sales!

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Rayman Origins looked good but can play Rayman elsewhere, only game that didn't look kiddie/meh was that Alien shooter but then again i can play that on PC.

Don't hold your expectations to high with the online, you will more likely get disappointed. Nindendo have lots to learn from Microsoft when it come to an online service.

Nintendo have long way to go before i am willing to buy WiiU.

ChubbyGuy40

You can't play Rayman Legends elsewhere. Darksiders 2 wasn't kiddie, and I sure as hell know it was nothing short of amazing. There were plenty of non-kiddie games.

Why not? Even Nintendo knows online by now as demonstrated with the 3DS. Yeah no, Microsoft needs to learn from Nintendo (and Sony, and PC.) Nintendo already has groups, chat, video chat, and voice chat. Free online and a new friend-code based system. Every game will also be available digitally. There's nothing for them to learn except when to do some DD sales!

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353327/ubisoft-rayman-legends-may-not-be-wii-u-exclusive/

We'll be playing Rayman Legends on the 360 and PS3 no problem.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Rayman Origins looked good but can play Rayman elsewhere, only game that didn't look kiddie/meh was that Alien shooter but then again i can play that on PC.

Don't hold your expectations to high with the online, you will more likely get disappointed. Nindendo have lots to learn from Microsoft when it come to an online service.

Nintendo have long way to go before i am willing to buy WiiU.

ChubbyGuy40

You can't play Rayman Legends elsewhere. Darksiders 2 wasn't kiddie, and I sure as hell know it was nothing short of amazing. There were plenty of non-kiddie games.

Why not? Even Nintendo knows online by now as demonstrated with the 3DS. Yeah no, Microsoft needs to learn from Nintendo (and Sony, and PC.) Nintendo already has groups, chat, video chat, and voice chat. Free online and a new friend-code based system. Every game will also be available digitally. There's nothing for them to learn except when to do some DD sales!

I don't want friend codes, i want online system like xbox live/PSN. Oh yeah i forgot about Darksiders 2 that going to be great, but it is not a "system seller" because people already got 360,Ps3 and PC to play it on.

Ofc Nindendo´s online is free who would pay for that terrible online service?

Here's something for fighting game fans.

A supposed next gen console with a touch screen has no multi touch

EPIC FAIL!!!

LOL, watching the Wii U crash and burn, who would have thought

We'll be playing Rayman Legends on the 360 and PS3 no problem.

RR360DD

Wouldn't count on it, seeing how you guys didn't support them at all judging by those failure sales.

A supposed next gen console with a touch screen has no multi touch

EPIC FAIL!!!

Zaibach

It's an epic fail that it's using superior resistive instead of inferior capacitive?

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

We'll be playing Rayman Legends on the 360 and PS3 no problem.

ChubbyGuy40

Wouldn't count on it, seeing how you guys didn't support them at all judging by those failure sales.

A supposed next gen console with a touch screen has no multi touch

EPIC FAIL!!!

Zaibach

It's an epic fail that it's using superior resistive instead of inferir capacitive?