The Nintendo 3DS may be in trouble for 2 major reasons, high price and.........

low battery life. I think $200 would've been the sweet spot. I know it would've sold like hot cakes at that price but $250 is stretching it a bit. If they included a game then things would be better. I have doubts that people will be coming in droves to spend $250 on this thing when a lot of people already own the regular DS and DS XL and really there are almost no games for the 3DS launch.

Now add to that the poor battery life. The 3D effect may be super cool(have yet to try it) but it's not cool to run out of battery in 2 to 3 hours. That's really lame. And I know you get 8 hours if you shut off the 3D but then what is the point of this device anyway?

i am sure you can buy a 3 party power pack for it . 3 hours is really bad who wants to use 3ds with all the settings turn down ?

It'll still sell. Afterall, remember when they introduced the color Gameboy Pockets? Those things flew off the shelves, even though they were just different colors.

Price is no problem and battery life can be increased. Everyone who has wanted to get the most life out of their DS lite and i's battery life has their own ways of increasing it, besides the obvious. The 3DS will only fail if the games suck, nothing else matters in the long run.

low battery life. I think $200 would've been the sweet spot. I know it would've sold like hot cakes at that price but $250 is stretching it a bit. If they included a game then things would be better. I have doubts that people will be coming in droves to spend $250 on this thing when a lot of people already own the regular DS and DS XL and really there are almost no games for the 3DS launch.

Now add to that the poor battery life. The 3D effect may be super cool(have yet to try it) but it's not cool to run out of battery in 2 to 3 hours. That's really lame. And I know you get 8 hours if you shut off the 3D but then what is the point of this device anyway?

alexfla

The battery life is the same as the DS Lite (6-7hrs) I think. It'll have long play time then the NGP, I can tell you that. That thing is a beast. The price is fine for now. It'll drop in price next year. The 3DS is going to sell out everywhere. I've already pre-ordered 2 of them and will sell one of them on EBay for like $300+ Nintendo already said there will be shortages. You're not going to be able to find them this summer and definitely not during the holidays.

They heard how much the PSP2 was gonna cost and figured, "Why the hell not?". Might even blame inflation and the recession.

Nintendo lost focus. The only thing left for them is games. If they have tons of great exclusives, then it won't matter. They need a veritable flood of unique 3D games from Nintendo 1st-party. If the 3DS tries to do the type of games that PSP2 is going to have then it will get stomped.

If you turn off the 3D its 8 hours, and im sure I wont be playing with it on 24/7 anyhow. And everything is getting more expensive now so the price isn't that big of a deal.

Who plays for eight hours straight without recharging? 99% of my hand held time is at home any way. Battery life is such a non issue. Bread_or_Decide

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

Also, the one thing that will make the 3DS sell better, is games are going to sell better on the 3DS than the NGP

The PSP Go failed at getting mobile gamers into DD. Sony is clearly going to price NGP games at $40 to maybe $60 to download (it has PS3 power almost so I'm betting games are going to be more expensive)

Also, you probably won't get as many 4GB-8GB games on NGP as 3DS. Why? No one, I repeat no console gamers (not counting PC gamers) are going to want to download over 2GB or 3GBs over WiFi or 3G just to play a game for $40 that may end up not being what you wanted, but now you're out of $40 and can't resell the game at gamestop or craigslist

This will be the fatal flaw in this next generation of Handhelds, one company going with DD all the way, and the 3DS going with it part of the way

Both will be supported greatly during their first year, and during their second year too, but as the dust settles, developers will see that one customer base will not be buying as many games as the other one, and they will halt their support or slow it down a lot, just like during PSP/DS when PSP games began to not nearly sell as well as DS games

These reasons alone will make whatever trouble the 3DS is in, and believe it does have an up hill battle ahead of it, become the winner in the end

I doubt we ever see a NGP game break 10 million units sold, but if the 3DS is much like the DS, I'm willing to bet it may have dozens cross that mark before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if retailers like GameStop refuse to carry the NGP, why would they? They can't make much more than a few bucks off each unit since there is no physical software. I think people still want to buy games at stores and used, as they tend to be cheaper than the DD Sony has been offering on PSN up to date.

They heard how much the PSP2 was gonna cost and figured, "Why the hell not?". Might even blame inflation and the recession.

Nintendo lost focus. The only thing left for them is games. If they have tons of great exclusives, then it won't matter. They need a veritable flood of unique 3D games from Nintendo 1st-party. If the 3DS tries to do the type of games that PSP2 is going to have then it will get stomped.

gamecubepad

Kinda like how the PSP tried to do the games the PS2/PS3 did and got stomped?

Seriously though, i think everyone is going to be "cool its a handheld PS3!" and go back to playing games on their 47 inch HDTVs

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

Also, the one thing that will make the 3DS sell better, is games are going to sell better on the 3DS than the NGP

The PSP Go failed at getting mobile gamers into DD. Sony is clearly going to price NGP games at $40 to maybe $60 to download (it has PS3 power almost so I'm betting games are going to be more expensive)

Also, you probably won't get as many 4GB-8GB games on NGP as 3DS. Why? No one, I repeat no console gamers (not counting PC gamers) are going to want to download over 2GB or 3GBs over WiFi or 3G just to play a game for $40 that may end up not being what you wanted, but now you're out of $40 and can't resell the game at gamestop or craigslist

This will be the fatal flaw in this next generation of Handhelds, one company going with DD all the way, and the 3DS going with it part of the way

Both will be supported greatly during their first year, and during their second year too, but as the dust settles, developers will see that one customer base will not be buying as many games as the other one, and they will halt their support or slow it down a lot, just like during PSP/DS when PSP games began to not nearly sell as well as DS games

These reasons alone will make whatever trouble the 3DS is in, and believe it does have an up hill battle ahead of it, become the winner in the end

I doubt we ever see a NGP game break 10 million units sold, but if the 3DS is much like the DS, I'm willing to bet it may have dozens cross that mark before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if retailers like GameStop refuse to carry the NGP, why would they? They can't make much more than a few bucks off each unit since there is no physical software. I think people still want to buy games at stores and used, as they tend to be cheaper than the DD Sony has been offering on PSN up to date.

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

darth-pyschosis

Mario on 3DS = automatic win.

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

Also, the one thing that will make the 3DS sell better, is games are going to sell better on the 3DS than the NGP

The PSP Go failed at getting mobile gamers into DD. Sony is clearly going to price NGP games at $40 to maybe $60 to download (it has PS3 power almost so I'm betting games are going to be more expensive)

Also, you probably won't get as many 4GB-8GB games on NGP as 3DS. Why? No one, I repeat no console gamers (not counting PC gamers) are going to want to download over 2GB or 3GBs over WiFi or 3G just to play a game for $40 that may end up not being what you wanted, but now you're out of $40 and can't resell the game at gamestop or craigslist

This will be the fatal flaw in this next generation of Handhelds, one company going with DD all the way, and the 3DS going with it part of the way

Both will be supported greatly during their first year, and during their second year too, but as the dust settles, developers will see that one customer base will not be buying as many games as the other one, and they will halt their support or slow it down a lot, just like during PSP/DS when PSP games began to not nearly sell as well as DS games

These reasons alone will make whatever trouble the 3DS is in, and believe it does have an up hill battle ahead of it, become the winner in the end

I doubt we ever see a NGP game break 10 million units sold, but if the 3DS is much like the DS, I'm willing to bet it may have dozens cross that mark before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if retailers like GameStop refuse to carry the NGP, why would they? They can't make much more than a few bucks off each unit since there is no physical software. I think people still want to buy games at stores and used, as they tend to be cheaper than the DD Sony has been offering on PSN up to date.

darth-pyschosis

the ngp is using flash-based memory cards

no man, its a nintendo handheld. they always manage to sell alot. stamp a nintendo logo on dirty diapers and people will buy it.

this video convinced me to get the 3DS on launch. And yes, the game is a launch titleNintendoNite

no man, its a nintendo handheld. they always manage to sell alot. stamp a nintendo logo on dirty diapers and people will buy it.

right4dead

Theres a reason why most gamers prefer the DS over the PSP ya know? *cough*games*cough*

3DS has been sold out already in Japan. The U.S. will be the same.

The PSP launched for 250 as well, and people bought it. 250 is reasonable (versus the 300+ assumed price people once thought).

same could be said about the psp2

NGP will be more expensive, and might have a worse battery life. I don't know the life of a PSP's though.

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

Also, the one thing that will make the 3DS sell better, is games are going to sell better on the 3DS than the NGP

The PSP Go failed at getting mobile gamers into DD. Sony is clearly going to price NGP games at $40 to maybe $60 to download (it has PS3 power almost so I'm betting games are going to be more expensive)

Also, you probably won't get as many 4GB-8GB games on NGP as 3DS. Why? No one, I repeat no console gamers (not counting PC gamers) are going to want to download over 2GB or 3GBs over WiFi or 3G just to play a game for $40 that may end up not being what you wanted, but now you're out of $40 and can't resell the game at gamestop or craigslist

This will be the fatal flaw in this next generation of Handhelds, one company going with DD all the way, and the 3DS going with it part of the way

Both will be supported greatly during their first year, and during their second year too, but as the dust settles, developers will see that one customer base will not be buying as many games as the other one, and they will halt their support or slow it down a lot, just like during PSP/DS when PSP games began to not nearly sell as well as DS games

These reasons alone will make whatever trouble the 3DS is in, and believe it does have an up hill battle ahead of it, become the winner in the end

I doubt we ever see a NGP game break 10 million units sold, but if the 3DS is much like the DS, I'm willing to bet it may have dozens cross that mark before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if retailers like GameStop refuse to carry the NGP, why would they? They can't make much more than a few bucks off each unit since there is no physical software. I think people still want to buy games at stores and used, as they tend to be cheaper than the DD Sony has been offering on PSN up to date.

darth-pyschosis

NGP will be more expensive, and might have a worse battery life. I don't know the life of a PSP's though.

Big_Pecks

Original PSP: 2-4 hours

PSP 2000: 3-8

PSP 3000: 4-9

PSPGo: 3-6

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NGP will be more expensive, and might have a worse battery life. I don't know the life of a PSP's though.

Zanoh

Original PSP: 2-4 hours

PSP 2000: 3-8

PSP 3000: 4-9

PSPGo: 3-6

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

NGP will be more expensive, and might have a worse battery life. I don't know the life of a PSP's though.

Big_Pecks

Original PSP: 2-4 hours

PSP 2000: 3-8

PSP 3000: 4-9

PSPGo: 3-6

I'm already turned off by the lack of UMD transfering service available (because most of my stuff are not on the PSN). I am betting a 300 and 400 dollar price tag will happen on the NGP models. As a net result it's PSP deja vu all over again and that is the same mistake I do not want to make over again....

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

NGP will be more expensive, and might have a worse battery life. I don't know the life of a PSP's though.

Big_Pecks

Original PSP: 2-4 hours

PSP 2000: 3-8

PSP 3000: 4-9

PSPGo: 3-6

It's meant to be around 4-5 hours

spookykid143

That is what they are aiming for, yes, but to power an OLED screen takes a lot of battery as well as some of the features that are questionable at best.

I am not dissing the system, but I am certainly feeling a PSP deja vu....which is why I won't be buying it like I did with the original PSP.

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Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

Also, the one thing that will make the 3DS sell better, is games are going to sell better on the 3DS than the NGP

The PSP Go failed at getting mobile gamers into DD. Sony is clearly going to price NGP games at $40 to maybe $60 to download (it has PS3 power almost so I'm betting games are going to be more expensive)

Also, you probably won't get as many 4GB-8GB games on NGP as 3DS. Why? No one, I repeat no console gamers (not counting PC gamers) are going to want to download over 2GB or 3GBs over WiFi or 3G just to play a game for $40 that may end up not being what you wanted, but now you're out of $40 and can't resell the game at gamestop or craigslist

This will be the fatal flaw in this next generation of Handhelds, one company going with DD all the way, and the 3DS going with it part of the way

Both will be supported greatly during their first year, and during their second year too, but as the dust settles, developers will see that one customer base will not be buying as many games as the other one, and they will halt their support or slow it down a lot, just like during PSP/DS when PSP games began to not nearly sell as well as DS games

These reasons alone will make whatever trouble the 3DS is in, and believe it does have an up hill battle ahead of it, become the winner in the end

I doubt we ever see a NGP game break 10 million units sold, but if the 3DS is much like the DS, I'm willing to bet it may have dozens cross that mark before all is said and done.

I wouldn't be surprised if retailers like GameStop refuse to carry the NGP, why would they? They can't make much more than a few bucks off each unit since there is no physical software. I think people still want to buy games at stores and used, as they tend to be cheaper than the DD Sony has been offering on PSN up to date.

spookykid143

I was referring to NPG software, not hardware

But I didn't know the NGP uses game cards, can someone give me a link I must have totally missed that.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

DerekLoffin

no man, its a nintendo handheld. they always manage to sell alot. stamp a nintendo logo on dirty diapers and people will buy it.

right4dead

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Oh dear, people please look up the details from Nintendo about battery life

With turning 3D off, turning WiFi off, putting brightness down to lower settings, and turning on power save mode, you could get up to 8-10 hours on 3DS games, even more with DS games

If you think the price is high, wait until the NGP is priced woah that's gonna be bad

runbleduck

*raises hand* There is nothing wrong with playing old games on a new gen handheld or console. Hence I still have a 60 gb PS3. And if people want to play with 3D off, let them. Who are you to tell them what to do with their purchase? As for the virtual boy bomb remark: The system already is sold out in Japan, and North American pre-orders are filled....the Virtual Boy never even SAW that success....

Battery life can be increased by toning down the features, such as the brightness and 3D effects. The old DS also drained battery power quickly if the brightest setting is used.

As for games, well, the DS didn't exactly have an impressive library either at launch back in 2004.

The 3DS will still probably sell well but I dont know if it will sell as much as the DS. The DS sold so much because of the same reason the wii did. A pretty cheap console with a cool gimick. The 3DS is doing the same with 3D but because of all the issues with your eyes and all that I think parents would rather just stick with the regular DS for their kids. Also I think the NGP is going to do a lot better this time around than the psp because Sony has put thier name out in the handheld world and with all the cool features that come with it I think more core gamers will prefer the better graphics and dual analog. Oh yeah and the 3DS is expensive as hell.

I don't think we'll still be talking about the price and battery life of the 3DS once the figures for the NGP are released. Just a guess though.

the 3ds is the best position to sell the price is not high its most likely going to be less then the NGP

this video convinced me to get the 3DS on launch. And yes, the game is a launch titleNintendoNite

this video convinced me to get the 3DS on launch. And yes, the game is a launch titleNintendoNite