The Last of Us Part 1 getting torn to shreds on Steam

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#1  Edited By Juub1990
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33% positive reviews is one of the lowest scores I've seen for a AAA game in a long time. Sony will need to up their game. They either release ports no one asked for (Sackboy) or broken games on launch (HZD, TLOU). They did release a few good ports such as Spider-Man and GOW but their batting average isn't too good now.

According to Steam reviews, the shader compilation is exceedingly long (over 20 minutes on a 13900K up to 1h+ on lower-end CPUs/GPUs). The game frequently crashes, the camera with a mouse has jitters, the performance is horrible, and there might be a memory leak causing high VRAM/RAM consumption, stutters, and bad performance. The CPU usage can get very high (90% load on all threads in mid-tier 10th gen Intel CPUs) and some people also reported their entire rig crashing due to the extreme stress compilation shaders put on the CPU and GPU.

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#2 Zero_epyon
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@Juub1990: What's the complaint? Is it broken?

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#3  Edited By Zaryia
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Sony screwed up. As usual. Still not gonna play the 30-40fps version on PS5, rather wait for them to fix this.

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#4  Edited By Chutebox
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@Zero_epyon: He says it's broken in op, just no details.

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#5  Edited By Juub1990
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@Zero_epyon said:

@Juub1990: What's the complaint? Is it broken?

Updated the OP.

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#6 Zero_epyon
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@Juub1990 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@Juub1990: What's the complaint? Is it broken?

Updated the OP.

Yikes!

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#7 lundy86_4
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Saw that. Thankfully, I have no plans to buy the game.

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#8 PCLover1980
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That's what they get for contracting Iron Galaxy lol.

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#9 hardwenzen
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Good. I hope Sony sees that hermits are a bunch of moaning moaners, and stops giving away my exclusives.

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#10 mrbojangles25
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PC gamers be like:

And rightfully so. We waited, and some of us supported by pre-ordering and buying at release. And what do we get? A broken product.

Pass. Spend my money on something better.

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Good. I hope Sony sees that hermits are a bunch of moaning moaners, and stops giving away my exclusives.

Damn, petty and entitled and you played yourself in the same, single sentence. Impressive.

Of course, if they released a better product, they'd sell a few million more copies, make a lot more money, then maybe use that money to make more games for Playstation but hey who is thinking big picture, am I right? More important to own anyone that isn't on your platform.

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#11  Edited By deactivated-65dd04f21decf
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Oh, it's broken alright.

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#12 Archangel3371
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Ouch. Sounds like they definitely did a piss poor job with that port.

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#13 DaVillain  Moderator
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Not sure why this needed a thread when we have the other one on the PC port but whatever. I'll just copy/paste what I've said in the previous thread.

So from what I'm seeing, you'll have to wait at least 20 minutes for the shaders to reach 100% in order to play it. Once I get home tonight, I'll report back and see how it runs. Uncharted 4 PC has the same problem with the shaders taking its time to sort it out.

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#14 KathaarianCode
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That's both surprising and disappointing that Jim doesn't understand the importance of solid PC ports for their strategy. He must be distracted by something that's making him lose focus. Maybe he should try to pass a law that forces all other pc ports to be worse than Sony's. Seem fair and the optimal way to solve the issue.

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#15 locus-solus
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PC port got rushed so it could ride the wave of hype from the hbo series.

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#16 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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Rule of thumb as a PC gamer for the past 10 years now:

Always wait a month or two before playing a newly released game, especially when it's a console port.

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#17 DaVillain  Moderator
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If anyone cares, here's the TLOU PC Performance Analysis vid: (Not DF but its all we've got for now at least)

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Good thing I bought it for cheap as I'm not to worried about the issues as I need to let the shaders do its job.

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#18 lebanese_boy
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That's why I'm glad we have Steam reviews, will always call bs when they see it.

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#19 rmpumper
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What is up with that shader compilation nonsense anyway? How come other studios manage to build great game engines that never have this issue? I remember Ryse Son of Rome going from desktop into gameplay in a few seconds and it never stuttered, and that's a game that still looks great and was running on potato hardware.

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#20 NoodleFighter
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@locus-solus said:

PC port got rushed so it could ride the wave of hype from the hbo series.

Bad idea anyway since it has to compete with RE4 Remake as well which is doing much better than it.

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#21 MirkoS77
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“Mostly Negative”?

Not anymore, now it’s negative. Yeah, torn to shreds alright. Good. The recommended specs for Ultra is RIDICULOUS for such an old game (4090), which rules out like 90% of the market, and is nothing but evidence of a lazy, half-assed port thrown together by a lazy, half-assed third tier developer. Deserves to get hammered, as this is nothing but laziness.

I was going to buy this, but no way now. Gracias, Steam reviews. 🙏🏼 Will check back in six months, as that’s what it sounds like it will take to fix this train wreck.

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#22 R4gn4r0k
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Any reason why this game uses between 20-40GB of CPU ram, while the PS5 is able to pull it off with 16GB shared between CPU and GPU?

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#23 R4gn4r0k
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@lebanese_boy said:

That's why I'm glad we have Steam reviews, will always call bs when they see it.

This. The game Rockacity City which has that Hollywood cast isn't doing so hot either, but since it's exclusively on Epic, customers can't make a fair judgement based on honest consumer reviews, as Epic lacks such a system.

Same thing with Settlers really: only a couple of days after it had gone up for sale, was I able to get a fair assessment of the game through professional and amateur reviewers on Metacritic.

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#24 BassMan
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@rmpumper said:

What is up with that shader compilation nonsense anyway? How come other studios manage to build great game engines that never have this issue? I remember Ryse Son of Rome going from desktop into gameplay in a few seconds and it never stuttered, and that's a game that still looks great and was running on potato hardware.

This is the result of using a low level API like DX12/Vulkan. It requires more work from developers. They either neglect it completely and you get shader stutter or they have to design a shader management system. The easiest being to compile all shaders at the beginning of the game, but this also has the longest wait time before you can start playing.

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#25 Djoffer123
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Mehh was thinking about picking this up for the pc ( already played it on ps4) to expirence the story again after I had finished with the show, but now I definitely won’t bother!

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#26  Edited By Litchie
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It's fine, it's just an interactive movie. Play some real games instead.

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#27 R4gn4r0k
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@BassMan said:
@rmpumper said:

What is up with that shader compilation nonsense anyway? How come other studios manage to build great game engines that never have this issue? I remember Ryse Son of Rome going from desktop into gameplay in a few seconds and it never stuttered, and that's a game that still looks great and was running on potato hardware.

This is the result of using a low level API like DX12/Vulkan. It requires more work from developers. They either neglect it completely and you get shader stutter or they have to design a shader management system. The easiest being to compile all shaders at the beginning of the game, but this also has the longest wait time before you can start playing.

The only issue I'm forseeing is this actually crossing the Steam 2-hour limit for refunds, which locks you out of a refund even if the game is broken afterwards.

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#28 R4gn4r0k
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@djoffer123 said:

Mehh was thinking about picking this up for the pc ( already played it on ps4) to expirence the story again after I had finished with the show, but now I definitely won’t bother!

Yeah same here, I purposefully ignored the PS5 version, just to wait for this... turd.

Definitely a shameful display and I'll just replay the original on PS3 or PS4, lol.

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#29 Macutchi
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very bizarre releasing games in this state. not just after all the hoopla over the change in direction to go multiplat, but also after the huge success of the hbo show when interest in the game would be at its peak.

so much of their potential pc audience will now be like...

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#30 KathaarianCode
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Jim is really dropping the ball.

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#31 R4gn4r0k
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@kathaariancode said:

Jim is really dropping the ball.

Cows were really pissed when they learned that PC gamers were getting superior versions of their games, so Jim made sure the PC gamers would get a worse version this time.

Kudos to Jim.

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#32 KathaarianCode
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@R4gn4r0k: He's a genius, really. 4D chess and all.

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#33 R4gn4r0k
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@kathaariancode said:

@R4gn4r0k: He's a genius, really. 4D chess and all.

Dude's playing 4D Chess while we are still playing TLOU.

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#34 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Controversial opinion - PC just isn’t that important of a market for this type of game. Most PC gamers are kids that like to play Minecraft and Roblox and their PCs are potatoes that can’t handle much else.

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#35  Edited By SecretPolice
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@kathaariancode said:

Jim is really dropping the ball.

Cows were really pissed when they learned that PC gamers were getting superior versions of their games, so Jim made sure the PC gamers would get a worse version this time.

Kudos to Jim.

He da man!!!

lol :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Cows were really pissed when they learned that PC gamers were getting superior versions of their games, so Jim made sure the PC gamers would get a worse version this time.

Kudos to Jim.

He da man!!!

lol :P

He is our prophet, whilst Philly boy is our messiah:

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#37 R4gn4r0k
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A review from Steam:

There are a lot of people review bombing this game right now. The things they are saying are true but also a bit over the top.

But, the game is really unplayable right now if you have a really average PC like me (Ryzen 5 3600 / 16GB RAM / GTX 1060 (6GB)). I'm on the lowest settings and still getting horrible frame drops and performance.

And then the interesting part:

The other thing is, the game on low settings looks worse than the remastered version on PS4. Loads of blurry textures and is just a really horrible thing to look at, the remaster of the remaster was NOT needed.

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#38 R4gn4r0k
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But Naughty dog lissssssteens you guys.

All these companies do is talk and talk to get good PR, but they never actually set out to improve anything:

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#39 Mesome713
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That’s Sony for you, always lazy with their games.

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#40 GNS
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For me, personally, what I don't get is this shader compilation business every time I launch a game. Like, what the **** is this?

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#41 TheEroica  Moderator
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Day 1 purchases... The definition of insanity.

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#42 KathaarianCode
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Give it to Microsoft. Phil Spencer will fix it himself with just two lines of code.

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#44 simple-facts
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One day naughy dog might be as good as playground and the coalition.

But not today

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#46  Edited By uninspiredcup
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That'll be £49.99 please.

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#48 Gifford38
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@MirkoS77 said:

“Mostly Negative”?

Not anymore, now it’s negative. Yeah, torn to shreds alright. Good. The recommended specs for Ultra is RIDICULOUS for such an old game (4090), which rules out like 90% of the market, and is nothing but evidence of a lazy, half-assed port thrown together by a lazy, half-assed third tier developer. Deserves to get hammered, as this is nothing but laziness.

I was going to buy this, but no way now. Gracias, Steam reviews. 🙏🏼 Will check back in six months, as that’s what it sounds like it will take to fix this train wreck.

its not a old game anymore. stop acting like its the ps3 version. its a remake for the ps5.

it happen when you design a game around one console and not pc/xbox/ps5/nin.

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@girlusocrazy said:

The best part is they can do benchmarks before, during, and after changing IRQs and loading himem.sys into the registry via commandline syntax parameters.

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#50 Gifford38
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@simple-facts said:

One day naughy dog might be as good as playground and the coalition.

But not today

yet naughty dog did not do the pc port. ouch that hurt next time find simple facts before posting. it was Nexxis a company sony bought to do pc ports.