Super Mario Galaxy's "good" graphics are an optical illusion.

Did I hear conspiracy?

It doesn't really matter, Galaxy is still an awesome game. Playing it and love it.

Super Mario Galaxy is pushing a whole lot at once. Think about the draw distance of each level and the lighting + texture work put into each environment. Nintendo of Japan did a fantastic job choosing what elements of the game need to look good in order to provide a visually stunning game.

Stop nit-picking and look at the sheer genius behind their "optical illusion".

It's hard to make realistic water in movies.

But it's easy to do them on videogames?

DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!!

what did you expect?

the psp has more ram then the wii

All graphics in all videogames are an optical illusion.

I don't see a problem here.

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

SMG is a great looking game. I am surprised about how good they made it look considering the Wii's specs.

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

edward2332

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Well maybe not optical illusion but its not that great. I bought the game yesterday (loving it). I noticed today though that the graphics are not that advanced for a Wii game. First of all if you zoom to a first person view and look at the objects, they look really really bad.. some of them look like they were from a Ps1 game. Really its all just bright colors and everything is far away so you can't see the pixel mess. Some of the character models are excellent but this game is not that ground breaking. Also the metal effects and etc are nothing.. its easy to make realistic water and metal in video games. I know some gamecube games that did it very well and better (when it comes to water) Anyways... yeah.. Meh___Guy

I don't see why this warrents a thread. The Wii is well known for having the worst graphics capabilities out of the big 3, barely surpassing the XBOX and Gamecube. Everybody knows Galaxy is style > technical -- they emphisized the right things to give it a bright and appealing, well rounded look. Anybody who thinks otherwise is off their rocker.

Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.sexy_chimp

[QUOTE="edward2332"]

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

sexy_chimp

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Whatever dude. Obviously your glasses are rose colored. Galaxy is a great looking game artisticly. But in a pure graphics sense, it's not much, if at all, better than Sunshine. It's not even like the Wii is somewhere inthe middle ofthe GC and the 360/PS3 powerwise. It's more like if the GC wasa 1 and the 360/PS3 were a 10, the Wii would be a 2.

I've played Galaxy, and the graphics are tremendously overrated, even for a Wii game. It doesn't look nearly as sharp as the pre-release screens.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.Meh___Guy

Run straight up to a wall in each game then zoom in. I can tell you that the textures in SMG look better.

Textures look like a PS1 game? Hope you're exaggerating.Ramadear

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.Meh___Guy

This is true. It's very difficult to get close to textures in Galaxy due to the bleh camera. In Metroid you have no problem getting within inches from an object to view the texture.

Which has better textures? I have no idea -- I've never played MP3.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="edward2332"]

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

edward2332

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Whatever dude. Obviously your glasses are rose colored. Galaxy is a great looking game artisticly. But in a pure graphics sense, it's not much, if at all, better than Sunshine. It's not even like the Wii is somewhere inthe middle ofthe GC and the 360/PS3 powerwise. It's more like if the GC wasa 1 and the 360/PS3 were a 10, the Wii would be a 2.

*Posts a picture of glasses*

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.sexy_chimp

Run straight up to a wall in each game then zoom in. I can tell you that the textures in SMG look better.

[QUOTE="edward2332"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="edward2332"]

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

sexy_chimp

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Whatever dude. Obviously your glasses are rose colored. Galaxy is a great looking game artisticly. But in a pure graphics sense, it's not much, if at all, better than Sunshine. It's not even like the Wii is somewhere inthe middle ofthe GC and the 360/PS3 powerwise. It's more like if the GC wasa 1 and the 360/PS3 were a 10, the Wii would be a 2.

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Your argument isn't very compelling so far. Other than some slightly sharper textures, Galaxy looks identical to a good looking GC game, and certainy not better than some of the Xbox's best.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.Meh___Guy

Run straight up to a wall in each game then zoom in. I can tell you that the textures in SMG look better.

You can go into FPV in Galaxy?!! How??

C moves the camera behind Mario (in most cases, sometimes it just flips you off and laughs at you), Z makes Mario crouch. B shoots bits and A is jump. Is it the 1 or 2 that does this magical feet?

I've been saying this forever, glad that someone else has seen it.

Though the TC is wrong, it isn't bright colors that make it look good, it's just because your zoomed in that the pixels come together and actually make the textures and have them more detailed. For some reason the TC doesn't get the fact that this is how it is for every game. Have you every zoomed in on the walls or dirt in Half-Life 2? It's just a bunch of pixels close up, however when looking at it regularly it looks very realistic, that's what Super Mario Galaxy does. Super Mario Galaxy in no way pushes the Wii's graphics in terms of textures. It's just phenomenal and innovative texture design on Nintendo's part to make it seem so much better. It's amazing what talented developers can do. :)

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="edward2332"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="edward2332"]

I agree. Twice as powerful my ***. Gamecube games look just as good as any Wii game. I remember when a friend brought his Gamecube Metriod Prime and we played it on my Wii and I couldn't believe how the graphics blew away my Wii games. Then there was the whole Mario Sunshine vs Galaxy graphics comparison...and honestly...Galaxy MIGHT have looked better...I couldn't really tell.

Obviously, the main focus of the Wii is not the graphics, but I think Nintendo was BSing when they said it was twice as powerful as the Gamecube. I wonder if the extra "horsepower" is necessary to compute the complex controls, take away from whatever additional graphics power it might have. I mean there has got to be a reason why not a single Wii game has blown away any given Gamecube title.

Gamer556

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Whatever dude. Obviously your glasses are rose colored. Galaxy is a great looking game artisticly. But in a pure graphics sense, it's not much, if at all, better than Sunshine. It's not even like the Wii is somewhere inthe middle ofthe GC and the 360/PS3 powerwise. It's more like if the GC wasa 1 and the 360/PS3 were a 10, the Wii would be a 2.

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Your argument isn't very compelling so far. Other than some slightly sharper textures, Galaxy looks identical to a good looking GC game, and certainy not better than some of the Xbox's best.

*Posts a link to a Sunshine vs. Galaxy comparison*

*Posts a picture of glasses*

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Zoom in on a wall in Metroid Prime 3 then do it in Galaxy. Galaxy's textures are WAY better.Apathetic-Irony

Run straight up to a wall in each game then zoom in. I can tell you that the textures in SMG look better.

You can go into FPV in Galaxy?!! How??

C moves the camera behind Mario (in most cases, sometimes it just flips you off and laughs at you), Z makes Mario crouch. B shoots bits and A is jump. Is it the 1 or 2 that does this magical feet?

Up on the D-pad...But it doesn't work in a lot of places.

Hmmm... Im just looking forward to getting a copy of the game... :s

Graphics arn't exactly my first concern when it comes to a Mario game....

[QUOTE="Ramadear"]Textures look like a PS1 game? Hope you're exaggerating.Meh___Guy

Have you seen PS1 textures?

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

*Posts a picture of glasses*

sexy_chimp

Your argument isn't very compelling so far. Other than some slightly sharper textures, Galaxy looks identical to a good looking GC game, and certainy not better than some of the Xbox's best.

*Posts a link to a Sunshine vs. Galaxy comparison*

*Posts a picture of glasses*

*Posts an image of a 404 error.*

*Posts an image of glasses.*

EDIT: Remove the 's' at the end of the url (it reads HTMLS, it should read HTML).

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="Ramadear"]Textures look like a PS1 game? Hope you're exaggerating.Devil-Itachi

Have you seen PS1 textures?

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

*Posts a picture of glasses*

Apathetic-Irony

Your argument isn't very compelling so far. Other than some slightly sharper textures, Galaxy looks identical to a good looking GC game, and certainy not better than some of the Xbox's best.

*Posts a link to a Sunshine vs. Galaxy comparison*

*Posts a picture of glasses*

*Posts an image of a 404 error.*

*Posts an image of glasses.*

EDIT: Remove the 's' at the end of the url (it reads HTMLS, it should read HTML).

*Fixes link*

Wow people. Does this look good?

How About This?

After watching the comparison, I can honestly state Galaxy's graphics are not a big improvement over Sunshine. What IS a HUGE improvement is style, mood, and setting. And to be honest, it felt really bias in favor of Galaxy. It reminded me of those commercials where they go "Tired of your regular dessert?" in black and white with everybody sleeping at the table, then go "THEN TRY THIS MEGA ULTRA DELIC DESSERT!" in bright and vibrant colors, with everybody throwing a party.Apathetic-Irony

How is it biased? They mainly show Mario doing the same exact thing in each game.

Oh for heaven's sake, who cares? It's a Mario Wii game. I think the graphics are devilishly simple up close but awesomely artistic and detailed from afar. Just look at Bowser!

But then again, what would I know, I just play SMG for fun.

Wow people. Does this look good?

How About This?

I am incredibly happy with what Nintendo of Japan accomplished with Super Mario Galaxy. Stop this rubbish and go play the game; it looks fantastic!kansasdude2009

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]After watching the comparison, I can honestly state Galaxy's graphics are not a big improvement over Sunshine. What IS a HUGE improvement is style, mood, and setting. And to be honest, it felt really bias in favor of Galaxy. It reminded me of those commercials where they go "Tired of your regular dessert?" in black and white with everybody sleeping at the table, then go "THEN TRY THIS MEGA ULTRA DELIC DESSERT!" in bright and vibrant colors, with everybody throwing a party.sexy_chimp

How is it biased? They mainly show Mario doing the same exact thing in each game.

I was stating how it felt, and used an example everybody is familier with to express the vibe the video gave off. Either way, I've already expressed my views on the title, but I'll summarize them:

• Galaxy's graphics are not a large improvement over Sunshine, from a technical perspective.
• The mood, setting, and style is a huge improvement. Lighting is much better for the tone, and the game has a certain ambience from the combination of lighting and the stary sky.
• Mario has very appealing graphics. Nintendo did an amazing job with them, knowing what to emphasize to give the best overall visual experience.

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

Wow people. Does this look good?

How About This?

I am incredibly happy with what Nintendo of Japan accomplished with Super Mario Galaxy. Stop this rubbish and go play the game; it looks fantastic!Meh___Guy

*sigh*

so you have not played Galaxy? You need to see the second picture in motion. Mushroom Kingdom looks drop-dead gorgeous!

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

Wow people. Does this look good?

How About This?

I am incredibly happy with what Nintendo of Japan accomplished with Super Mario Galaxy. Stop this rubbish and go play the game; it looks fantastic!kansasdude2009

*sigh*

so you have not played Galaxy? You need to see the second picture in motion. Mushroom Kingdom looks drop-dead gorgeous!

I wouldn't say 'drop-dead gorgeous', but it did look very good.

[QUOTE="Meh___Guy"][QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

Wow people. Does this look good?

How About This?

I am incredibly happy with what Nintendo of Japan accomplished with Super Mario Galaxy. Stop this rubbish and go play the game; it looks fantastic!kansasdude2009

*sigh*

so you have not played Galaxy? You need to see the second picture in motion. Mushroom Kingdom looks drop-dead gorgeous!

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"] [QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]After watching the comparison, I can honestly state Galaxy's graphics are not a big improvement over Sunshine. What IS a HUGE improvement is style, mood, and setting. And to be honest, it felt really bias in favor of Galaxy. It reminded me of those commercials where they go "Tired of your regular dessert?" in black and white with everybody sleeping at the table, then go "THEN TRY THIS MEGA ULTRA DELIC DESSERT!" in bright and vibrant colors, with everybody throwing a party.Apathetic-Irony

How is it biased? They mainly show Mario doing the same exact thing in each game.

I was stating how it felt, and used an example everybody is familier with to express the vibe the video gave off. Either way, I've already expressed my views on the title, but I'll summarize them:

• Galaxy's graphics are not a large improvement over Sunshine, from a technical perspective.
• The mood, setting, and style is a huge improvement. Lighting is much better for the tone, and the game has a certain ambience from the combination of lighting and the stary sky.
• Mario has very appealing graphics. Nintendo did an amazing job with them, knowing what to emphasize to give the best overall visual experience.

Those are not your views - those are facts.