Sony says Home 'not a social network' ... didn't they say it WAS?

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]

I don't quite understand the post... Did something happened to Home? Something big? Or something completely irrelevent and has no importance?

Stonin

Sort of, but in reality it's just Sony backpedalling on promises they made when Home was announced. Essentially they had the vision but lacked the skills to pull it off :(.

So what happened?

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

Fart_Storm, trying to be an internet bully due to being bullied in real life is not a good sign for yourself. It pretty much shows everyone how sad you are...

On-Topic: So...what exactly is home?

Fart_Storm

I'm not an internet bully. I'm just sick of Lemmings bashing the PS3. I have had enough. And someone has to defend Sony. You guys are quick to forget the good times that Sony brought you in the PS1 and PS2 era. I don't forget.

Also, AAAA esclusive, anyone? 360 don't got one. LOL.

You're not trying to be an internet bully?

1) You pull a really sad attempt at lemmings talking about how you got in a fight with 3 lemmings at school because of their opinion about a system...That story is so crap.(This was in that thread about which fan/protector are you, etc..)

2) You tell a poster here if he stated his opinion infront of your face you'd do something to him...for all we know you're probably just a 10 year old and would plummet if you fought him, but anyways...

3) I'd prefer a alot of AA's+ AAA's instead of a small amount of AA's and one AAAA.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. ZIMdoom

Plus it sounds to me like Home itself hasn't changes one bit since they've first shown it. Neither the idea nor the execution has changes. THe only thing that has changes is how they refer to it.

Seems pretty irrelevant to me and a weak excuse to bash Sony. Maybe if the end product suddenly no longer delivers what they claimed...then there would be something to bash. But really, right now, lemmings are just bashing adjective choice.

It is called managing expectations. At first it was going to be all singing, all dancing feature full social networking/gaming hub. Now they are 'managing expectations' by saying it isn't a social site, it's not about bringing the community together but its all about games.

Reading between the lines and knowing they have had to delay once, this reall means: We promised too much, we now can't deliver and so we will PR spin it so you think we were never giving these things in the first place.

[QUOTE="Fart_Storm

the PS3 will lose to the 360. It's already on pace to sell exactly what Sony predicted- 150 million. Seriously, how can the 360 possible beat the PS3? It's not possible. The PS3 should pass the 360 this year, especially once the power of the Cell is unlocked and we see true photorealism like GT5.

BTW anyone looking for the key that unlocks the Cell should give me a call. I found it stuck to the bottom of my shoe just the other day.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Calling it a social networking thing would open a whole new can of worms. It makes sense to distance themselves from it.SecretPolice

Just not good business form if you ask me.

I guess you're more qualified then Sony exec's, apply for a job and see what happens.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Stonin

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Yeah, a multi-billion dollar company needs saving from forum users....

And you really, really don't want to debate game lineup PS3 vs 360. I love my PS3, but it will lose, and badly, between those two on this site.

NielsNL

It surprises me that you think the PS3 will lose to the 360.

Right now, using SW methods going over game library? Why would I not think that the 360 would win?

I am not talking about the future, and I am not talking about sales. Talking strictly about the present and games, using GS as the meter stick.

LOL at him thinking that the PS3 will lose to the 360. It's already on pace to sell exactly what Sony predicted- 150 million. Seriously, how can the 360 possible beat the PS3? It's not possible. The PS3 should pass the 360 this year, especially once the power of the Cell is unlocked and we see true photorealism like GT5.

Fart_Storm

LOL at two people not reading what I wrote, and instead reading what they wanted to.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Ibacai

I agree we do need more info but this does smell fishy to me. Delays and then spin, this has been Sony from the start of the gen.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Fart_Storm

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Calling it a social networking thing would open a whole new can of worms. It makes sense to distance themselves from it.shadyd1717

Just not good business form if you ask me.

I guess you're more qualified then Sony exec's, apply for a job and see what happens.

LOL at him thinking that the PS3 will lose to the 360. It's already on pace to sell exactly what Sony predicted- 150 million. Seriously, how can the 360 possible beat the PS3? It's not possible. The PS3 should pass the 360 this year, especially once the power of the Cell is unlocked and we see true photorealism like GT5. PS3_FartFanboy

OMG :lol: LOL

Just like the Ps2 Hiden Power That never was unlocked :lol:

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Calling it a social networking thing would open a whole new can of worms. It makes sense to distance themselves from it.shadyd1717

Just not good business form if you ask me.

I guess you're more qualified then Sony exec's, apply for a job and see what happens.

"work more hours to buy one"

It's probably too cheap."

"I'll give you $1,200 bucks for it."

"rumble is last generation."

"I don't think we are arrogant."

"backwards compatibility is a core value of what we believe we should offer."

"supercomputer"

I don't see him screwing things up anymore than the actual exects so maybe he should fax a resume in asap.

[QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. 6matt6

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Fart_Storm

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

Ok. How do you suppose I do that?

Nevermind. I spot a troll.

Wait, so nothing has changed with Home.....people are still going to use it as Sony has shown......they would just rather not pitch it as a social network. Ok, so what's the problem exactly? It's still going to be exactly what we've been seeing for the past year. The only difference is Sony wants to pitch it as a way to get groups to get together to play games.......I'm almost 100% postive it will be used for social aspects more than anything else though. As long as the core mechanics haven't changed, why should anyone care what Sony thinks people should use home for?

[QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. 6matt6

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yeahhh :lol: someone Need To get a life :lol:

Wait, so nothing has changed with Home.....people are still going to use it as Sony has shown......they would just rather not pitch it as a social network. Ok, so what's the problem exactly? It's still going to be exactly what we've been seeing for the past year. The only difference is Sony wants to pitch it as a way to get groups to get together to play games.......I'm almost 100% postive it will be used for social aspects more than anything else though. As long as the core mechanics haven't changed, why should anyone care what Sony thinks people should use home for?

darthogre

Yeah, they've changed nothing about the content, only what they've decided to call it.

I don't see it changing the opinions of people who had heard of Home previously.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Fart_Storm

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

Bad, Bad Fakeboy. Shoo.

PS_John Wannabe...

Since Phil Harrison left, all they have been doing is destroying his vision.Krigon

[QUOTE="Krigon"]Since Phil Harrison left, all they have been doing is destroying his vision.Riverwolf007

You can make assumptions how much you want. The fact we have been given, is that he left.

I believe he said those comments because he knew that he was leaving the week after.

Sony should put a gag order on all their Sony employees that don't make the games.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Krigon"]Since Phil Harrison left, all they have been doing is destroying his vision.Krigon

You can make assumptions how much you want. The fact we have been given, is that he left.

I believe he said those comments because he knew that he was leaving the week after.

Sony should put a gag order on all their Sony employees that don't make the games.

it can still be a social network that is focused on games....

and how would that be a bad thing?

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Stonin

Plus it sounds to me like Home itself hasn't changes one bit since they've first shown it. Neither the idea nor the execution has changes. THe only thing that has changes is how they refer to it.

Seems pretty irrelevant to me and a weak excuse to bash Sony. Maybe if the end product suddenly no longer delivers what they claimed...then there would be something to bash. But really, right now, lemmings are just bashing adjective choice.

It is called managing expectations. At first it was going to be all singing, all dancing feature full social networking/gaming hub. Now they are 'managing expectations' by saying it isn't a social site, it's not about bringing the community together but its all about games.

Reading between the lines and knowing they have had to delay once, this reall means: We promised too much, we now can't deliver and so we will PR spin it so you think we were never giving these things in the first place.

Well, considering the Sony hating fanboys and lemmings on the net have a bad habit of taking every tiny thing SOny does, and blowing it up into something it isn't...I hope you will excuse me if I laugh at your "managing expectations" excuse. Because it seems to me, the only people who are complaining about not meeting expectations, are the lemmings who hate Sony anyway.

But I am honestly interested. Where is there any link, story, news or other data that shows Home isn't going to be what Sony promised? What features have been removed? What can Home no longer do that it was once promised? Can I now longer show my trophies? Can I no longer meet with people in other game lobbies and discuss strategy? If I can still meet and talk with people using an avatar, how is this any different from what Sony originally promised...whether they want to call it "social networking" or not?

Seriously, other than changing how they describe Home, what is different? Nothing. Home is exactly the same product they showed years ago. They only thing different is what they are referring to it as. Big Deal.

What are you talking about? I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Post your address, internet tough guy. I will fly to wherever you are to settle this once and for all.

Fart_Storm

[QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

What are you talking about? I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Post your address, internet tough guy. I will fly to wherever you are to settle this once and for all.

The_Game21x

LOL yeah i like that alot :lol: :lol: :lol:

LMAO @ fartstorm. no you're not funny. bye.

plus i wonder what will happen when home lags... it could look naughty

[QUOTE="Fart_Storm"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. 6matt6

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

Ok. How do you suppose I do that?

Nevermind. I spot a troll.

Post your address. I am on delta.com right now, I can book a flight. We can sort this out face to face.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. ZIMdoom

Plus it sounds to me like Home itself hasn't changes one bit since they've first shown it. Neither the idea nor the execution has changes. THe only thing that has changes is how they refer to it.

Seems pretty irrelevant to me and a weak excuse to bash Sony. Maybe if the end product suddenly no longer delivers what they claimed...then there would be something to bash. But really, right now, lemmings are just bashing adjective choice.

It is called managing expectations. At first it was going to be all singing, all dancing feature full social networking/gaming hub. Now they are 'managing expectations' by saying it isn't a social site, it's not about bringing the community together but its all about games.

Reading between the lines and knowing they have had to delay once, this reall means: We promised too much, we now can't deliver and so we will PR spin it so you think we were never giving these things in the first place.

Well, considering the Sony hating fanboys and lemmings on the net have a bad habit of taking every tiny thing SOny does, and blowing it up into something it isn't...I hope you will excuse me if I laugh at your "managing expectations" excuse. Because it seems to me, the only people who are complaining about not meeting expectations, are the lemmings who hate Sony anyway.

But I am honestly interested. Where is there any link, story, news or other data that shows Home isn't going to be what Sony promised? What features have been removed? What can Home no longer do that it was once promised? Can I now longer show my trophies? Can I no longer meet with people in other game lobbies and discuss strategy? If I can still meet and talk with people using an avatar, how is this any different from what Sony originally promised...whether they want to call it "social networking" or not?

Seriously, other than changing how they describe Home, what is different? Nothing. Home is exactly the same product they showed years ago. They only thing different is what they are referring to it as. Big Deal.

How can you say exactly what Home is when they haven't even released a final feature set? All we've seen are bullet ponited lists of pie-in-the-sky features. Since it's not a final product, they're totally free to add and/or subract from those features.

How they refer to a thing can greatly influence how it's marketed to investors/advertisers as well as it's core functionality.

Do we know for sure what this means? Of course not. That said, you can't claim to know either. All we know is that they said one thing before, now they say something very different. This could have repurcussions on how Home operates. We'll have to wait and see.

Easy there PS3 fanboy. :) You're just showing why people like you can't have a realy conversation about consoles. You call people 'lemmings' when you're obviously a big one yourself. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="sam280992"]

TC, can you just tell me how does this affect you in anyway? I doubt you own a PS3... So why get all worked up over it.

Fart_Storm

Maybe it got you all worked up eh.

LOL. I'll bet you don't even own a PS3. You will never get to play Home. LOL. And I bet you wouldn't talk this kind of junk to my face- I would hurt someone who did that.

For daring to post the news contained within the O.P. I've made some here angry.

Let me now make you happy and prove - I'll report, you decide. :)

New news on the subject that I already posted in the Home bashing thread.

Home beta opens in Japan, features Namco space on 07.31.2008

It looks like Sony may finally be ramping up towards the actual release of the much-delayed PlayStation Home. The Sixth Axis is reporting that a public beta of Home is open ... in Japan.

By downloading a Home-related theme from the Japanese PlayStation store (before August 11), select PS3 owners will be allowed access to the long-awaited Home beta. Images over at The Sixth Axis show a playable Echochrome arcade machine, as well as a Namco game space that has playable versions of ****cs like Pac-Man, Galaga and more, completely with what looks like leaderboards.

No word on when (or if) North America or Europe will be allowed into a similar program. For those who are impatient, it might be worth trying to make your own Japanese PSN account.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Fart_Storm

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

Ok. How do you suppose I do that?

Nevermind. I spot a troll.

Post your address. I am on delta.com right now, I can book a flight. We can sort this out face to face.

Just STFU you piece of crap. You cant hurt **** , talkin like you bad. The most redicilous **** thing is you would fight over a console.

I don't care what they call it. It will be yet another AAAA exclusive for the PS3, that will be cause the downfall of the RRODBOX360 and Wii even more. I'll take it, even if they call it birthday cake. :D I can't wait to invite all my friends to my "house" and watch some movies together! While playing the following games:

- motorstorm

- MGS4

- Heavenly Sword

- FF13

- GT1-5

- MGS2 Sons of the Patriots

- Haze

- COD4

- ICO

- FF7

- Uncharted

- Lair

Fart_Storm

LMFAO!!!!! I know this guy is full of fakeboy but he's still hilarious.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Fart_Storm"]

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]I don't really care how Sony refers to it. What I do care about is the final product, whether I like that or don't. This thread is just attacking Sony because you're a fanboy of another system and because you can. Fart_Storm

Seriously. I am so sick of delusional lemming fanboys, trying to plot the demise of the PS3. It's a good thing they don't say these things to my face, because I would explode on them. I will LOL when the PS3 sells 150 million (like the announced recently they would)

You would explode in someones face over a console war? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol:

Yes. Care to try me?

Ok. How do you suppose I do that?

Nevermind. I spot a troll.

Post your address. I am on delta.com right now, I can book a flight. We can sort this out face to face.

Dude, put your mom's credit card back in her purse and go back to playing with your Legos before your dad finds you on his computer.