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#101 Ibacai
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this is turning into a star wars geek out. pff-platy-
Darn skippy
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#102 Redmoonxl2
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this is turning into a star wars geek out. pff-platy-

Because a video game geek off is any better?

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#103 Supafly1
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cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midget

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Mad_Rhetoric

Because some people like Yoda more, like me.

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#104 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Again you are missing the point Vader wins where Yoda is defeated. Dooku and the Emperor are both killed by Vader. Dooku with no help (Obi-Wan is taken out early) and the Emperor after being beaten by his son and only one hand. And the reason he was beaten by Luke is already stated, you just disregard it. Pawn or not Vader was still the stronger, as Palpatine said he would be in Episode 3.Redmoonxl2

To be honest, pointing to Vader killing the Emperor to prove he's stronger than Yoda is kinda weak, especially when the Emperor was basically blindsided by Vader while he was busy using Force Lightning on Luke. Picking up a frail old man and throwing him off a bridge doesn't really take much skill. Hell, I can do that. Give me a old man, I'll prove it.:lol:

Could you do it while being hit with force lightning? HMMMMMMMMM Could You? :P
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#105 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Again you are missing the point Vader wins where Yoda is defeated. Dooku and the Emperor are both killed by Vader. Dooku with no help (Obi-Wan is taken out early) and the Emperor after being beaten by his son and only one hand. And the reason he was beaten by Luke is already stated, you just disregard it. Pawn or not Vader was still the stronger, as Palpatine said he would be in Episode 3.Ibacai

To be honest, pointing to Vader killing the Emperor to prove he's stronger than Yoda is kinda weak, especially when the Emperor was basically blindsided by Vader while he was busy using Force Lightning on Luke. Picking up a frail old man and throwing him off a bridge doesn't really take much skill. Hell, I can do that. Give me a old man, I'll prove it.:lol:

Could you do it while being hit with force lightning? HMMMMMMMMM Could You? :P

It's a challenge I'm willing to take. FOR SCIENCE!

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#106 gensigns
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Kirk could kick the crap out of both of them....
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#107 haris12121212
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Yoda kills that robot with 6 swords, Yoda pwns.
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#108 blacktorn
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I know it suxs,but i guess they decided to give the 360 version Yoda because he's green,and uses a green light-saber? LOL sounds stupid i know but only reason i could think of,or maybe Sony paid them to put Vader on the ps3 version,because we all know Vader > Yoda.

I think i might buy both versions just because the ps3 version as Vader,and the 360 has yoda+points.

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#109 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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we all know Vader > Yoda.blacktorn
we don't "all" know that.
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#110 akif22
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Yoda kills that robot with 6 swords, Yoda pwns. haris12121212

wasn't that obi or are you talking about somethinh else?

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#111 Supafly1
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Kinda sad that Chuck Norris won't be in SC IV.
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#112 animation_imp
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everyone knows vader is the most powerfull.

Yoda knew it, Obi Wan knew it and the emperor knew it.

His power was the reason he was so easy to corrupt. He felt he was stronger than any other Jedi, but still the order held him back. This fueled his dismay and eventually led to his turning to the dark side.

Also the profecy stated he would be the one to end the sith threath, which also came true.

Yoda wasn't a sissy, although like stated before his fighting style is very un-Jedi, but Vader was the ultimate force-wielder in the galaxy. If it wasn't for the inner struggle, if Luke wasn't his son, he would never have been beaten.

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#113 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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everyone knows vader is the most powerfull.

Yoda knew it, Obi Wan knew it and the emperor knew it.

His power was the reason he was so easy to corrupt. He felt he was stronger than any other Jedi, but still the order held him back. This fueled his dismay and eventually led to his turning to the dark side.

Also the profecy stated he would be the one to end the sith threath, which also came true.

Yoda wasn't a sissy, although like stated before his fighting style is very un-Jedi, but Vader was the ultimate force-wielder in the galaxy. If it wasen't for the inner struggle, if Luke wasn't his son, he would never have been beaten.

animation_imp

So, what you're saying is that Vader has the most power.

Unfortunately it is untapped and weighted down by unnecessary gadgetry?

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#114 animation_imp
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No it's untapped because of psychological instability.

If vader would have been 100% good or 100% evil he would have been unstopable.

His doubt however was his weakness.

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#115 Minglis
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anakin skywalkerwas by far the most powerful jedi, he was also cocky, arrogant and had alot of issues (padme and his mother) which made him easy for palpaltine tomanipulate him and ultimately led to his downfall in episode 3. thats what made him such a great character, that his ultimate strength was also the cause of his ultimate weakness.

as darth vader he had the greatest knowledge of the dark side of the force next to the emperor , i dont think he really was a pawn of the emperor's, if you sawep3 its clearly obvious that he ended up just wanting power and to prove he was the best jedi in the galaxy. palpaltine simply gave him a nudge in the right direction really.

seriously as if bag darth vader, he was awesome. he seemed like just an ice cold villian who killed everybody no matter what and yet he was so much more than that

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#116 Dream-Bringer
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Vader owns 8)
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#117 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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No it's untapped because of psychological instability.

If vader would have been 100% good or 100% evil he would have been unstopable.

His doubt however was his weakness.

animation_imp

Sorry, I'm still trying to make connections here.

So, if the PS3 had been a 100% dedicated gaming machine, then.... unstoppable?

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#118 Dream-Bringer
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[QUOTE="animation_imp"]

No it's untapped because of psychological instability.

If vader would have been 100% good or 100% evil he would have been unstopable.

His doubt however was his weakness.

Jandurin

Sorry, I'm still trying to make connections here.

So, if the PS3 had been a 100% dedicated gaming machine, then.... unstoppable?

It has no connection with the games, kid.
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#119 murat8
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If this was also coming to the Wii what Star Wars character do u think they would get?
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#120 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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kid. Dream-Bringer
Lol. Are you trying to imply some sort of secret knowledge of my age or maturity level?

If this was also coming to the Wii what Star Wars character do u think they would get?murat8
*whistles innocently*

Jar Jar?

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#121 buuzer0
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But most of all, I'm one of those guys who will never forgive Lucas for making the prequels. Where the originnal trilogy was one of the most influencial movie series in film history (it changed the ways movies are made and started the whole blockbuster/marketing rave), the three prequel episodes just don't carry the same charm.

Why? The mysticism got lost. The force became something measurable with a device,

animation_imp

LOL. You make it sound like an episode of Dragonball Z.

Emporor: Quick Vader, this boy, what does your scouter say about his midichlorian level?

Vader: Impossible!!! It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!!

:lol:

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#122 ace52387
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[QUOTE="ace52387"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Bgrngod

Vader is far from the most badass villain. Are you kidding me? Look at how dumb he looks. He has a fricken control panel on his chest. With gigantic buttons on it. That is ridiculous if I ever saw ridiculous.

The ignorance is strong in this one. Educate you I will.

I'm not about to read a wiki article on a piece of the star wars stories using obscure details from every product lucas has made. Instead. Here.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/844/844675/soulcalibur-iv-20080109063529033.jpg

Control panels. Multi colored giant buttons. Not badass. My conclusion.

Holy crap that article is ridiculous. It's written like an entry in a history textbook.

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#123 animation_imp
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[QUOTE="animation_imp"]

But most of all, I'm one of those guys who will never forgive Lucas for making the prequels. Where the originnal trilogy was one of the most influencial movie series in film history (it changed the ways movies are made and started the whole blockbuster/marketing rave), the three prequel episodes just don't carry the same charm.

Why? The mysticism got lost. The force became something measurable with a device,

buuzer0

LOL. You make it sound like an episode of Dragonball Z.

Emporor: Quick Vader, this boy, what does your scouter say about his midichlorian level?

Vader: Impossible!!! It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAND!!!!

:lol:

Now you mention it, maybe Lucas was a fan.

It used to be they sensed the force from miles away.

But in episode one they meet this kid with incredible potention and what do they do, whip out a measuring device, get some blood and OOOOOH He's SOOO powerfull.

Jedi's should sense this! Not measure it, that's just plain stupid.

If it were Star Trek...

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#124 wok7
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Link will return for the Wii version.
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#125 ace52387
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Link will return for the Wii version.wok7

What wii version....

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#126 -platy-
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am i a tool for not watching the last 3 movies?
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#127 ace52387
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What's with the win and lose debate? Considering this is SCIV, I say we all lose. Both versions get a tard looking character who wields a laser sword. Yoda looks like he's from sesame st and vader has on plastic armor, styrofoam leggings, and a giant control panel on his chest. I don't think they belong in any fighting game, let alone one set in medieval times.

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#128 animation_imp
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am i a tool for not watching the last 3 movies?-platy-

No in the contrary, you're lucky... You can remember the saga like it should be remebered.

I for one used to be one of the biggest SW freaks of all my friends. But the prequels ruined it for me.

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#129 Maverick_Chaos1
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cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midget

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Mad_Rhetoric

Oh c'mon, it's easy to make anything sound bad when you reduce it to it's basic components in a cynical fashion. I could just reverse what you said and claim that PS3 got the raw deal because they lost out on getting the greatest jedi ever for a limbless, depressed, bald android. I'm not saying one is better than the other because I love most Star Wars characters (except for the obvious Jar Jar Binks) but your bias is evident.

Hopefully that edit worked.

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#130 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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am i a tool for not watching the last 3 movies?-platy-
first 3 or last 3?
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#131 -platy-
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[QUOTE="-platy-"]am i a tool for not watching the last 3 movies?animation_imp

No in the contrary, you're lucky... You can remember the saga like it should be remebered.

I for one used to be one of the biggest SW freaks of all my friends. But the prequels ruined it for me.

[QUOTE="-platy-"]am i a tool for not watching the last 3 movies?Jandurin
first 3 or last 3?

yeh shoulda been more clear, i meant i never watched a new hope, etc.

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#132 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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yeh shoulda been more clear, i meant i never watched a new hope, etc.-platy-
then the answer is go watch them. :|
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#133 nervmeister
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yoda rules. he's not a whiny, annoying paraplegic in a body suit.

Ontain
No he isn't. He's a hypocritical smelly little midget with a speech impediment.
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#134 XanderZane
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cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midget

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Mad_Rhetoric

Have you even seen Yoda fight in SW III: Revenge of the Sith? Yoda is the bomb. He jumps and flips all over the place when he fights with the light saber. I'd rather play as Yoda anyways. Just his size and moves along with make for interesting matches. I also what to her his backward comments. Should be pretty funny.

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#135 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

yoda rules. he's not a whiny, annoying paraplegic in a body suit.

nervmeister
No he isn't. He's a hypocritical smelly little midget with a speech impediment.

As opposed to a teenage dork with clunky armor, that could barely beat up old man and couldn't beat his kid, who had almost no training. Good thing Leia never got a clue, she would have taken over the Death Star in A New Hope.
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#136 DXGreat1_HGL
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BTW, if Vader was such a vile villian, then why couldn't he handle a planet populated by Teddy Bears? The ewoks are stronger then Vader...
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Krigon

Darth Vader = black clothes (same color as PS3)

Yoda = green (like Xbox 360 game cases)

Darth vader (anikin)= is in all the movies (Ps3 is expected to be in the market for 10 years)

Yoda = dies early in the second(fourth) movie (microsoft already abandoning their console*)

*rumour: Microsoft is making a game for their next console.

:P just kidding.

Yoda didn't die until the 6th movie (Return of the Jedi). M$ isn't abandoning their XBox 360. It'll be around for at least 7 years I'm sure. If Microsoft is smart this time they will make their next system B/C.

I'm happy the 360 got Yoda. I hope he's able to use the force as well.

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#138 blazinpuertoroc
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Yoda is the strogest jedi there ever was...stop complaining...i really want to play as yoda....but darth vader is also rather tempting...Ill try out both!
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#139 yoshi_64
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I'd rather not play as Star Wars characters.... but I'm getting the game regardless. Right now for 360 cause most of my friends have that, and I'll buy a PS3 version when I get a PS3 sometime in the future...
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#140 anshuk20002
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yodas gonna be cheap as hell! i bet you most characters cant land a horizontal high attack against him. all upper attacks will miss. that is cheap
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#141 ELJUDEZ
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Both sides should be happy at least you didn't get this.

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#142 nervmeister
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Well there's the chance that they'll decide to go with the alternate plan and make Jar Jar Binks the exclusive character for the 360 version. I hear he has a kendo stick for a weapon plus a comedic fighting style.

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#143 slothboyadvance
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I think they should pull a 'Nintendogs' with this.

Make Yoda playable on the 360 version and Vader on the PS3 initially...

...then you unlock the other after completeing a certain task.

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#144 cell1138
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Darth Vadar in Star Wars Episode 1, 2 & 3 was a whiny little brat. In Star Wars 4, 5 & 6 - he had his Death Star blown up twice, got his ass kicked by his own son and then burned. Yoda died of natural causes. And up until that point, he kicked major ass. He even stood his own ground against the Emperor. Vadar was the Emeror's little doggie.

I'll take Yoda thank you.

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not to mention darth vader KILLED the emperor. He also BLEW UP a planet. yoda in episode 1 and 5 and 6= lame.
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#145 nervmeister
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not to mention darth vader KILLED the emperor. He also BLEW UP a planet. yoda in episode 1 and 5 and 6= lame.cell1138
For the last time, it was Grand Moff Tarkin who nuked Alderaan!
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#146 yoshi_64
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yodas gonna be cheap as hell! i bet you most characters cant land a horizontal high attack against him. all upper attacks will miss. that is cheapanshuk20002
I'm certain that will not be a case. Yoda will be altered in size a bit to ensure he can get his from high attacks.
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#147 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]yodas gonna be cheap as hell! i bet you most characters cant land a horizontal high attack against him. all upper attacks will miss. that is cheapyoshi_64
I'm certain that will not be a case. Yoda will be altered in size a bit to ensure he can get his from high attacks.

...does anyone else remember Gon from Tekken 3?

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#149 cell1138
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[QUOTE="cell1138"]not to mention darth vader KILLED the emperor. He also BLEW UP a planet. yoda in episode 1 and 5 and 6= lame.nervmeister
For the last time, it was Grand Moff Tarkin who nuked Alderaan!

but vader helped :P
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#150 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="cell1138"]not to mention darth vader KILLED the emperor. He also BLEW UP a planet. yoda in episode 1 and 5 and 6= lame.cell1138
For the last time, it was Grand Moff Tarkin who nuked Alderaan!

but vader helped :P

All he did was make Leia watch.