SC4 exclusive characters, WTF?

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Darth Vadar in Star Wars Episode 1, 2 & 3 was a whiny little brat. In Star Wars 4, 5 & 6 - he had his Death Star blown up twice, got his ass kicked by his own son and then burned. Yoda died of natural causes. And up until that point, he kicked major ass. He even stood his own ground against the Emperor. Vadar was the Emeror's little doggie.

I'll take Yoda thank you.

DXGreat1_HGL

Do you have a PS3? No?

Then you don't have a choice who you "take". :lol:

These types of threads are my favorite on system wars. Nothing but spin and damage control.

What is there to spin? The light side of the force >>>>>> then the dark side. Yoda >>>> Vader. Vader died from turning to the light side, Yoda died of old age, after training Luke. Yoda was around far longer then Vader.

Anyone that really knows the universe and characters, knows this...

LOL, what the hell does it matter what happened in the actual story? It's not about the mythology, since it will have NO bearing on how they perform in the game. It is about a 7 ft tall psychopath in a scary suit with a scary voice compared to a 2 ft tall muppet with a voice like Cookie Monster :P

Yoda is cool and all and I would really like to have him too, but I know all the lems here would be saying PWNED IN THE FACE HAHA YODA SUCKS if the tables were turned. I know it.

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgetMad_Rhetoric

Actually, the cows get an asthmatic amputee, while the lemmings get a deranged muppet.

It seems pretty fair. :|

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

excelR83

... lol ... lemmings got shafted ... have fun playing the inferior version newb.

Xbox 360 = inferior version? Ever heard of achievements? :P

Achievements are a pat on the head. They might be nice to have, but they add nothing to the actual game.

Might be just me, but I don't think "positive reinforcement" adds anything to my gaming experience.

man i don't know wtf you're talking about. But I see achievements as a challenge. Don't tell me you've never said to yourself "hmmm i wonder if i can do this, or that", something that most games wouldn't really tell you to do. it's exactly the same except achievements tell you when you've completed the goal. Sometimes they unlock new features as well.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Darth Vadar in Star Wars Episode 1, 2 & 3 was a whiny little brat. In Star Wars 4, 5 & 6 - he had his Death Star blown up twice, got his ass kicked by his own son and then burned. Yoda died of natural causes. And up until that point, he kicked major ass. He even stood his own ground against the Emperor. Vadar was the Emeror's little doggie.

I'll take Yoda thank you.

excelR83

Do you have a PS3? No?

Then you don't have a choice who you "take". :lol:

These types of threads are my favorite on system wars. Nothing but spin and damage control.

What is there to spin? The light side of the force >>>>>> then the dark side. Yoda >>>> Vader. Vader died from turning to the light side, Yoda died of old age, after training Luke. Yoda was around far longer then Vader.

Anyone that really knows the universe and characters, knows this...

LOL, what the hell does it matter what happened in the actual story? It's not about the mythology, since it will have NO bearing on how they perform in the game. It is about a 7 ft tall psychopath in a scary suit with a scary voice compared to a 2 ft tall muppet with a voice like Cookie Monster :P

Yoda is cool and all and I would really like to have him too, but I know all the lems here would be saying PWNED IN THE FACE HAHA YODA SUCKS if the tables were turned. I know it.

James Earl Jones is a scary voice? Sorry if you can't accept the fact that Yoda is more powerful. Heck the guy that replaced Vader in the Empire was a better villain then Vader was.

LOL, what the hell does it matter what happened in the actual story? It's not about the mythology, since it will have NO bearing on how they perform in the game. It is about a 7 ft tall psychopath in a scary suit with a scary voice compared to a 2 ft tall muppet with a voice like Cookie Monster :P

Yoda is cool and all and I would really like to have him too, but I know all the lems here would be saying PWNED IN THE FACE HAHA YODA SUCKS if the tables were turned. I know it.

excelR83

Well, based on Yoda's fight scenes in Ep II and Ep III I would have to say that I am more excited about playing Yoda.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

LOL, what the hell does it matter what happened in the actual story? It's not about the mythology, since it will have NO bearing on how they perform in the game. It is about a 7 ft tall psychopath in a scary suit with a scary voice compared to a 2 ft tall muppet with a voice like Cookie Monster :P

Yoda is cool and all and I would really like to have him too, but I know all the lems here would be saying PWNED IN THE FACE HAHA YODA SUCKS if the tables were turned. I know it.

Bgrngod

Well, based on Yoda's fight scenes in Ep II and Ep III I would have to say that I am more excited about playing Yoda.

Yea, Yoda is small, nimble and quick, whereas Vader is slow and lumbering.

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

TheDarkDisciple

... lol ... lemmings got shafted ... have fun playing the inferior version newb.

Xbox 360 = inferior version? Ever heard of achievements? :P

Achievements are a pat on the head. They might be nice to have, but they add nothing to the actual game.

Might be just me, but I don't think "positive reinforcement" adds anything to my gaming experience.

man i don't know wtf you're talking about. But I see achievements as a challenge. Don't tell me you've never said to yourself "hmmm i wonder if i can do this, or that", something that most games wouldn't really tell you to do. it's exactly the same except achievements tell you when you've completed the goal. Sometimes they unlock new features as well.

See, I don't care. I don't go to middle school and tell my friends what my gamerscore is. If I want to do something pointless in a game, I just do it. If I want to get 4 stars and run from the cops for a full half hour, I just do it. As I said, all they are is a pat on the head. I would enjoy them if they are included in a game, but they sure aren't a deal-breaker, and don't make one version "superior" to another, especially when there are other differences, as there are in this case.

I think we're all missing the real point here anyway: who wants to play a fighter with the 360 controller and that horrid D-Pad? Are you all planning on buying a $100 joystick? :P

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Darth Vadar in Star Wars Episode 1, 2 & 3 was a whiny little brat. In Star Wars 4, 5 & 6 - he had his Death Star blown up twice, got his ass kicked by his own son and then burned. Yoda died of natural causes. And up until that point, he kicked major ass. He even stood his own ground against the Emperor. Vadar was the Emeror's little doggie.

I'll take Yoda thank you.

DXGreat1_HGL

Do you have a PS3? No?

Then you don't have a choice who you "take". :lol:

These types of threads are my favorite on system wars. Nothing but spin and damage control.

What is there to spin? The light side of the force >>>>>> then the dark side. Yoda >>>> Vader. Vader died from turning to the light side, Yoda died of old age, after training Luke. Yoda was around far longer then Vader.

Anyone that really knows the universe and characters, knows this...

LOL, what the hell does it matter what happened in the actual story? It's not about the mythology, since it will have NO bearing on how they perform in the game. It is about a 7 ft tall psychopath in a scary suit with a scary voice compared to a 2 ft tall muppet with a voice like Cookie Monster :P

Yoda is cool and all and I would really like to have him too, but I know all the lems here would be saying PWNED IN THE FACE HAHA YODA SUCKS if the tables were turned. I know it.

James Earl Jones is a scary voice? Sorry if you can't accept the fact that Yoda is more powerful. Heck the guy that replaced Vader in the Empire was a better villain then Vader was.

:lol:

Yeah, Yoda is so much more powerful that he sat on his ass in the Dagobah system for decades instead of killing the only other known Jedi (Sith). He even knew Kenobi was out there, why didn't they team up and kick his ass?

ANSWER: IT'S A ****ING MOVIE!

It's a story they made up, it doesn't "fit" into any particular scheme, and it has, as I said, absolutely no bearing whatsoever on Soul Calibur.

Saying Vader is a weak villain is pretty much the worst damage control I have ever heard. I mean ever.

:lol:

Yeah, Yoda is so much more powerful that he sat on his ass in the Dagobah system for decades instead of killing the only other known Jedi (Sith). He even knew Kenobi was out there, why didn't they team up and kick his ass?

ANSWER: IT'S A ****ING MOVIE!

It's a story they made up, it doesn't "fit" into any particular scheme, and it has, as I said, absolutely no bearing whatsoever on Soul Calibur.

Saying Vader is a weak villain is pretty much the worst damage control I have ever heard. I mean ever.

excelR83

Compared to a man in a robot suit that took orders from a weak older man? If Vader was so strong, how come he just took orders instead of actually ruled? The man that took over after Vader was far stronger then Vader and far more foreboding. Besides, you saying Yoda just hid is weaker damage control, revenge was always against the Jedi code. I guess you never realized that, Yoda never would have hunted Vader down.

[QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

PandaBear86

... lol ... lemmings got shafted ... have fun playing the inferior version newb.

Xbox 360 = inferior version? Ever heard of achievements? :P

Yeah that a good reason to play a game....If I ever heard one

This reminds me of a certain video...

Star Wars nerds

I wish we got old kenobi instead, he's cooler than darth vadar. :(

but vadar is still pretty BA

yeah

[QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

ace52387

Vader is far from the most badass villain. Are you kidding me? Look at how dumb he looks. He has a fricken control panel on his chest. With gigantic buttons on it. That is ridiculous if I ever saw ridiculous.

LOL

just remembered classic moment in television history

"Which one of those buttons calls your mom to pick u up" --triumph@ starwars line... dont know what i speak of look it up classic

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

:lol: I love how anytime StarWars comes up in conversation, it turns into a massive debate that has nothing to do with the topic at hand...it's only a matter of time before the "Han/Greedo shot first" crap breaks out :lol:

I'll be getting SC4 for the ps3...only because I don't feel like dishing out $90 for the 360 Hori stick.

I'd actually much rather play Yoda.

Will probably buy the PS3 version to play as Vader then trade it in after a couple months and buy the 360 version to play as Yoda. Hopefully Namco will realise the money making potential and make a Soul Calibur Star Wars edition featuring all our favourite Jedi and Sith Lords.

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

DXGreat1_HGL

As simple as this: Vader - black and red ( obviously PS3 )

Yoda - Green ( 360 )

JUST HAVE FUN!

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

Dream-Bringer

As simple as this: Vader - black and red ( obviously PS3 )

Yoda - Green ( 360 )

Typical, cows try to claim ownage and then back out when they start losing...

Oh wait a minute. NOw the PS3 is getting hated on for getting special treatment? No can't be.Cedmln

lol ...reminds me of this:

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

DXGreat1_HGL

Id still go with the misguided teen, because when it came down to it, by the end, there was pretty much only Luke he couldnt beat. Yoda, on the other hand, couldn't finish off either Count Dooku (Vader did it) or the emperor (Vader did it) in the only two battles we saw him in.

[QUOTE="ace52387"][QUOTE="Mad_Rhetoric"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

surgestrip

Vader is far from the most badass villain. Are you kidding me? Look at how dumb he looks. He has a fricken control panel on his chest. With gigantic buttons on it. That is ridiculous if I ever saw ridiculous.

LOL

just remembered classic moment in television history

"Which one of those buttons calls your mom to pick u up" --triumph@ starwars line... dont know what i speak of look it up classic

Yes that was such a great line that whole bit was hilarious. I laughed so hard during the whole segment.

As for the topic Darth Vader imo is the better choice I mean he's such a badass. I mean cmon hes iconic and if im not mistaking "the most powerful jedi ever"? Vader>>>Yoda I mean yoda is cool but not as cool as sleek black vader. You don't see Yoda on the back of some psps now do u?

yeah, I feel 360 only owners got the short end of the stick on that one.......MikeE21286

duh duh duh dum *symbol*

lol ...reminds me of this:

starfxxxer

Never really cared for Star Wars. They look out of place to tell you the truth. Laser vs. metal, wtf? How is that suppose to work? Ryu H. and Kratos are much better options. I hope we can dowload new characters in the future.

Never really cared for Star Wars. They look out of place to tell you the truth. Laser vs. metal, wtf? How is that suppose to work? Ryu H. and Kratos are much better options. I hope we can dowload new characters in the future.

Blazed

I know. What the *beep* did they think with on this one? Uh.

yeah, I feel 360 only owners got the short end of the stick on that one.......MikeE21286

ha i get it pun

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]

cows get the most badass villian in the universe, and the lemming get an alien midgit

who was in charge in making that decision?

seriously WTF?

Mad_Rhetoric

Darth Vader = black clothes (same color as PS3)

Yoda = green (like Xbox 360 game cases)

this is the first i've heard of each version getting a seperate character

i had assumed that both versions would get both characters

can someone give me a link confirming this?

this is the first i've heard of each version getting a seperate character

i had assumed that both versions would get both characters

can someone give me a link confirming this?

akif22

doesn't matter, found a link. for reference:

http://kotaku.com/343067/ps3-xbox-360-get-exclusive-star-wars-soulcalibur-iv-characters

It's going to be a difficult decision.

Owning both consoles means I have the luxury of trying to get the most ideal version of multiplats.

This one however is a though nut to crack, but at the moment I'm leaning towards the ps3 version. I played the previous SC on playstation consoles and I like the controll scheme and the controllers.

Also Vader is in my humble oppinion more iconic to the SW universe than Yoda (it's close though).

But most of all, I'm one of those guys who will never forgive Lucas for making the prequels. Where the originnal trilogy was one of the most influencial movie series in film history (it changed the ways movies are made and started the whole blockbuster/marketing rave), the three prequel episodes just don't carry the same charm.

Why? The mysticism got lost. The force became something measurable with a device, Obi Wan meets R2 and C3po since his first missions, but doesn't recognise them in episode IV (very unlikely), annakin looks like a member of a boysband and does nothing but whining and whining, the plot twists come much too easy and the most dramatic events in SW history (the destruction of the Jedi order) gets only ten minutes coverage. Weak. But most of all I was horrified by how they made yoda fight. It's very uncharacteristic for a jedi to fight so erratic. Yoda should have had a more Tai Chi fightstyle, relaxed, flowing evading all with seemingly no movement.... The Jedi used to be ronin and samurais in space, in episodes 1 2 and 3 Lucas decided to go all out in the choreography departement, resulting in spectacular visuals, but losing the psychology and eastern feeling of the originnal films.

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

DXGreat1_HGL

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

Ibacai

The point of the argument was which character was stronger and it's more then obvious that Yoda wins. Yoda fought both Palpatine and Dooku to a stalemate whereas Vader needed help to defeat both and it still doesn't account for the fact that Luke, with very little Jedi training was able to hold his own against Vader. It's the mainstream that continues to quantify Vader as a powerful villian, when in the end he is only a pawn of Palpatine and both his predecessor and successor are more powerful...

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

Here's how you sum up this debate:

Darth Vader (PS3) - The mainstream movie audience quantifies him as one of the baddest villians ever. However, his character is just a classic of case of manipulation. Emporer Palpatine corrupted him as a teenager, goaded him into killing Mace Windu and slaughtering little kids and then lied to him about Padme, causing him to be evil. In the end, Vader was just a puppet controlled by Palpatine that bullied his subordinates instead of taking responsibility for his own incompatence and then turned good at the end. He couldn't outdual his own son even though his son had less training then him.

Yoda(360) - Small in stature, experienced and easy to underestimate. A very capable warrior that put himself into exile after the destruction of the Jedi army, because of the guilt of not seeing the turn of Anakin. Ended up training Luke into bcoming capable enough to fight Vader to a close lose and a win by having Luke run around a swamp carrying him.

So, who's the stronger character? The misguided teen or the grizzled warrior?

DXGreat1_HGL

The point of the argument was which character was stronger and it's more then obvious that Yoda wins. Yoda fought both Palpatine and Dooku to a stalemate whereas Vader needed help to defeat both and it still doesn't account for the fact that Luke, with very little Jedi training was able to hold his own against Vader. It's the mainstream that continues to quantify Vader as a powerful villian, when in the end he is only a pawn of Palpatine and both his predecessor and successor are more powerful...

sif bag yoda.

darth vader was my favourite anyway, i loved his cold blooded nature, he was the perfect villian. (eps 1,2 and 3 dont count, although i didnt mind hayden christensen)

Again you are missing the point Vader wins where Yoda is defeated. Dooku and the Emperor are both killed by Vader. Dooku with no help (Obi-Wan is taken out early) and the Emperor after being beaten by his son and only one hand. And the reason he was beaten by Luke is already stated, you just disregard it. Pawn or not Vader was still the stronger, as Palpatine said he would be in Episode 3.Ibacai

To be honest, pointing to Vader killing the Emperor to prove he's stronger than Yoda is kinda weak, especially when the Emperor was basically blindsided by Vader while he was busy using Force Lightning on Luke. Picking up a frail old man and throwing him off a bridge doesn't really take much skill. Hell, I can do that. Give me a old man, I'll prove it.:lol: