Rise of the Tomb Raider - Games like this need to die off

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#101 hrt_rulz01  Online
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@DarthaPerkinjan: You don't want it, but a lot of others (myself included), do. So what.

If you don't like those types of games, then don't buy them. Simple.

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#102 PapaTrop
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Game like Tomb Raider basically all console have today, especially PS4

I not mind them when I on PC. Thousand other games to play.

Original Tomb Raider not good though.

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#103 SonySoldier-_-
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@BrawndoQC said:

Threads like this need to die.

I'm 40 years old

This thread was already dead until you bumped it. (over 3 months old)

Nobody cares that you're a 40 year old loser that makes alt accounts to bump old ass threads.

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#104 The-A-Baum
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I bet OP will be sweating UC after that drops.

Same with most of you other haters.

You don't want to buy it fine. You f#cks need to stop acting like you played the game after watching a few YouTube clips.

It truly is your loss. And I am all out of Fu$ks to give if you buy it or not.

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#105  Edited By BrawndoQC
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@SonySoldier-_-: Well you DO seem to care, you replied. Have Gamespot prune their threads after a certain amount of days if they don't want people to answer to indexed threads in Google. Also, If you bothered reading, I wrote at the end that I knew it was a necro. Dumb@ass. My age was regarding the type of games I like, not a personal confession. Humans are not all created equal, and you're the proof. Alt account? Member since: June 4, 2013

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#106 Dixonganesh
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@kinectthedots:

Thanks for pointing out the trolls for us, now I can understand their dishonesty and damage control when it comes

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#107  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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I'm in agreement with TC, but he/she is just listing only one problem with Rise of the Tomb Raider. Yeah, the scripted sequences are all terrible. They have no tension at all, they are literally the bare bones bullshit of holding up on the stick. At least Uncharted throws challenge into its set pieces. ROTR just feels like you're watching a terrible movie at times.

Yes, ROTR would be a terrible movie. Whenever the game gets its cinema and storytelling on, it's D-tier direct to DVD garbage. It's 2016, why the **** are we still getting saddled with this horrible and cringe inducing writing? The AAA game industry needs to hire some competent writers that can actually make me feel something. I don't care about Lara's journey or find the villains interesting at all. When a game spends so much time on cutscenes and building a world I expect it to be good, not a complete waste of time.

Speaking of time wasting, all the side content in the game feels completely pointless. All of it just feeds back into the combat. However, the game never challenges you at all with its combat mechanics. Crafting and buying all those upgrades just feels dumb. The starting equipment and skills are good enough to carry you to the end of the game. Hell, I got halfway through the game and had enough survival supplies to craft 20 bandages. I was never in danger of actually dying, so even when it's an actual game, it has no tension. The various upgrades only serve to make an already easy game easier. Not to mention, finding all those collectibles is super boring. The game basically tells you where everything is, it's just a simple matter of running up to it and hitting X. Oh yeah, they also make the somewhat decent tomb raiding a side activity and pour all the money into their shitty main game that's just an Uncharted clone. **** this game.

ROTR is a bad video game. Totally blows my mind how some people can completely hate a game like MGSV and then turn around and say they love ROTR. To me, that's like saying they hate Fury Road, and then enjoying Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. One is a nice juicy steak, while the other is just junk food. That's what ROTR is, it's AAA game junk food. it's well-made for what it is, but it's still safe boring crap.

/endrant

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#108  Edited By koko-goal
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Hey at least they made Rise of the Tomb Raider less browny than TR2013!!!!

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#109 BigBoy_Bmw760Li
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I call bullshit. Tomb Raider 2013 in my opinion was very good. I played it on ps3 and on my 5k iMac. I can only imagine how nice it looks. I guess I will see when most likely the definitive version comes out in November.

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#110 Ghosts4ever
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havenot played rise of TR but based on 2013 reboot i can agree with OP. one of the worst game of all time. Its so bad that it make Uncharted a masterpiece. and lara croft the worst protagonist ever "OMG THIS IS SOOOO HAAAR I CANT DO DIS"!!! or "this is beautiful" all she do is whine.

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#111 sukraj
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@trollhunter2 said:
@Heil68 said:

I like that style game. I'm sure I'll play it multiple times.

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#112 soulitane
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@ghosts4ever said:

havenot played rise of TR but based on 2013 reboot i can agree with OP. one of the worst game of all time. Its so bad that it make Uncharted a masterpiece. and lara croft the worst protagonist ever "OMG THIS IS SOOOO HAAAR I CANT DO DIS"!!! or "this is beautiful" all she do is whine.

Kind of like what you're doing right now? :o

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#113 Ghosts4ever
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@soulitane said:
@ghosts4ever said:

havenot played rise of TR but based on 2013 reboot i can agree with OP. one of the worst game of all time. Its so bad that it make Uncharted a masterpiece. and lara croft the worst protagonist ever "OMG THIS IS SOOOO HAAAR I CANT DO DIS"!!! or "this is beautiful" all she do is whine.

Kind of like what you're doing right now? :o

I do respect your opinion like i respect everyone else but new tomb raider is not very good.

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#114 pelvist
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Although I somewhat enjoyed the newer Tomb Raider games, the feeling of accomplishment you get from the older games is much greater. I agree that they go too far for that cinematic feel and it takes more away from video games than it gives to them IMO.

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#115 Razik
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10 minutes in you're free to explore a sandbox area with lots of side content, hunting and metrodvania style upgrades and puzzles to solve

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#116  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@Big_Red_Button said:

Unfortunately "gamers" these days are largely casuals who want easy, tightly scripted, mindless blockbuster experiences.

They're a cancer on the industry, and they really hurt the potentials games have as an artistic medium. They're easy to make, they're easy to market, and lots of casuals really enjoy them. A lot of self-titled "hardcore gamers" only play stuff like this; they're really just casuals who don't know as much about vidya as they think they do.

OP, check out /v/ on one of the big chans. The posting culture on /v/ is a little bit more knowledgeable about games and not as silly as this board. Also, totally anonymous posting, so no morons who think their opinions are better because they have a higher post count.

Ugh I hate when people elevate themselves as some awesome top of the line gamer and put down other gamers with the word casual. You're not exactly a casual gamer if you're gaming on PC or consoles. I can see that word used perhaps for tablets and smartphones but not consoles.

And there is nothing wrong with having different types of games. Not everyone has time to spend on games with family and jobs which is much different than the kid with nothing to do all night but game in their parents house.

Also not everyone is interested in the same games. Diversity is good. Instead of whining about x game.....don't buy it. Don't play it. Pick up some senseless shooter and spend your time on that.

Damn. Don't be a pretentious gamer.

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#119 DaVillain  Moderator
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@sts106mat: @LJS9502_basic: Ya'll do know that Big_Red_Button said that like 3 months ago right? This thread is 3 months old and someone bump the thread. This is a Necro thread.

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#121 naughtyottsel
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Boring garbage with a horribly written main lead?

I agree.

I remember when Tomb Raider was actually good, how I miss 2006

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#123 Moistcarrot
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"I didn't play past the first 10 minutes" the post

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#124 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:

Boring garbage with a horribly written main lead?

I agree.

I remember when Tomb Raider was actually good, how I miss 2006

hahaha, still butthurt about Tomb raider dave?

"horribly written " Looks like the writers guild disagree with you.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/14/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-wins-big-at-the-2016-writers-guild-awards/

although that is not surprising because you haven't played the game. clown

Nope, I've played 5 hours of it at my girlfriends and it's boring horribly written trash.

Keep trying clown.

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#126 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:

Boring garbage with a horribly written main lead?

I agree.

I remember when Tomb Raider was actually good, how I miss 2006

hahaha, still butthurt about Tomb raider dave?

"horribly written " Looks like the writers guild disagree with you.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/14/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-wins-big-at-the-2016-writers-guild-awards/

although that is not surprising because you haven't played the game. clown

Nope, I've played 5 hours of it at my girlfriends and it's boring horribly written trash.

Keep trying clown.

hmm i smell smoke

I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

Lara herself has never been so unlikable before but RoTR did it.

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#128 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

hahaha, still butthurt about Tomb raider dave?

"horribly written " Looks like the writers guild disagree with you.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/02/14/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-wins-big-at-the-2016-writers-guild-awards/

although that is not surprising because you haven't played the game. clown

Nope, I've played 5 hours of it at my girlfriends and it's boring horribly written trash.

Keep trying clown.

hmm i smell smoke

I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

Lara herself has never been so unlikable before but RoTR did it.

whatever Dave, the writers guild disagree. stick to pokemon.

Stick to good games?

I'll stick to whatever tickles my fancy actually, keep crying that RoTR is trash

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#130 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

hmm i smell smoke

I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

Lara herself has never been so unlikable before but RoTR did it.

whatever Dave, the writers guild disagree. stick to pokemon.

Stick to good games?

I'll stick to whatever tickles my fancy actually, keep crying that RoTR is trash

I am not crying about ROTR, it is one of the best games of last year.

too bad that you are too big of a fanboy clown to be able to enjoy it.

Lol as usual your reasoning is flawed, I don't like it because it's a shit game.

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#132 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

whatever Dave, the writers guild disagree. stick to pokemon.

Stick to good games?

I'll stick to whatever tickles my fancy actually, keep crying that RoTR is trash

I am not crying about ROTR, it is one of the best games of last year.

too bad that you are too big of a fanboy clown to be able to enjoy it.

Lol as usual your reasoning is flawed, I don't like it because it's a shit game.

but above you said it was the writing, i provided links to show you that this was not a widely held opinion.

there is nothing shit at all about ROTR, cry more.

Apart from trash gameplay, a trash lead and a horrible story with garbage writing.

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#133 DaVillain  Moderator
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@sts106mat: If Naughty was still butt hurt, he wouldn't be here lol.

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#135 naughtyottsel
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@davillain- said:

@sts106mat: If Naughty was still butt hurt, he wouldn't be here lol.

lol he'll catch on eventually.

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#136 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@davillain- said:

@sts106mat: If Naughty was still butt hurt, he wouldn't be here lol.

seems butthurt about it to me:

@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:

@sts106mat: Oh I know it was, I just know that someone who is biased against fighters as you claimed earlier isn't worth indulging with.

I am not biased against fighters. I bought Mortal Kombat X for my PS4 when it came out.

I enjoy them for about 5 hours, get bored of them and move on. Doesn't make me biased.

Keep trying

Sorta like me with......RoTR

Who would've thunk but it's wrong that I despise RoTR isn't it?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hating a game I've played makes me butthurt?

Guess I'm butthurt about Sonic 06, Fire Emblem Awakening, TWD season 2 and Sonic Boom (lol this guy)

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#138 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@davillain- said:

@sts106mat: If Naughty was still butt hurt, he wouldn't be here lol.

seems butthurt about it to me:

@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

I am not biased against fighters. I bought Mortal Kombat X for my PS4 when it came out.

I enjoy them for about 5 hours, get bored of them and move on. Doesn't make me biased.

Keep trying

Sorta like me with......RoTR

Who would've thunk but it's wrong that I despise RoTR isn't it?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hating a game I've played makes me butthurt?

Guess I'm butthurt about Sonic 06, Fire Emblem Awakening, TWD season 2 and Sonic Boom (lol this guy)

Oh ok, so when you said that you despise the game, you've based this on the 5 hours you played at your "girlfriends house".

Dave, its ok, you are butthurt and have been diagnosed with depression.

I mean this sincerely, please dont reply to my threads / posts anymore, i do not want to be involved with your issues.

5 hours out of a 12 hour game is more than enough to create an opinion.

Lol this clown and his nonsense.

Don't post such stupid things then.

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#139  Edited By casharmy
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I don't think games like Tomb Raider need to die, but I personally didn't like Tomb Raider Reboot (don't know how much it's like ROTTR).

Xbox fans and PC gamers hyped it up really high and said it was better than Uncharted and I like 3rd person action games so I gave it a shot, however, It wasn't better than Uncharted. In fact, It was quite numbing and lacking in believable atmosphere or compelling story.

The fact that I don't think that even Uncharted had a strong story but Tomb Raiders was even worse killed my motivation to continue playing because people hyped it up to be so much better.

Uncharted also had really fun action sequences and story events and Tomb Raiders events felt more like a chore that I needed to complete just to get to the next section..I gave up after about 2 2hr sessions. The second time I played I just said **** this and uninstalled it from my PS4, said I'll go back to playing tetris or Bloodborne.

So, while I don't think games like Tomb Raider need to die, I personally believe other 3rd person action games do it better than what TR has done, at least going by the reboot.

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#142 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

seems butthurt about it to me:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hating a game I've played makes me butthurt?

Guess I'm butthurt about Sonic 06, Fire Emblem Awakening, TWD season 2 and Sonic Boom (lol this guy)

Oh ok, so when you said that you despise the game, you've based this on the 5 hours you played at your "girlfriends house".

Dave, its ok, you are butthurt and have been diagnosed with depression.

I mean this sincerely, please dont reply to my threads / posts anymore, i do not want to be involved with your issues.

5 hours out of a 12 hour game is more than enough to create an opinion.

Lol this clown and his nonsense.

Don't post such stupid things then.

the only one who posted something stupid was you dave. go look at the link i provided you with after your pathetic butthurt comment

I'll leave it there.

lol will it be 5 months old?

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#144 naughtyottsel
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@sts106mat: Lol and look at all the comments, everyone is saying that the plot is trash.

Lol fail

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#145 Ghosts4ever
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@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@sts106mat said:

Oh ok, so when you said that you despise the game, you've based this on the 5 hours you played at your "girlfriends house".

Dave, its ok, you are butthurt and have been diagnosed with depression.

I mean this sincerely, please dont reply to my threads / posts anymore, i do not want to be involved with your issues.

5 hours out of a 12 hour game is more than enough to create an opinion.

Lol this clown and his nonsense.

Don't post such stupid things then.

the only one who posted something stupid was you dave. go look at the link i provided you with after your pathetic butthurt comment

I'll leave it there.

lol will it be 5 months old?

Its the link about the game receiving a writers award, genius.

keep calm and carry on dave

This man is right. Tomb raider is terrible and barely even qualify as game. QTE after QTE and overall terrible gameplay. this game make uncharted feel like intelligent game like system shock 2.

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#147 ShepardCommandr
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casualization needs to die

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#148 BigBadBully
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Awesome game, big maps and lots to explore besides the Tombs. Qte events don't really bother me, some tense moments that could mean life or death when they do crop up. Game is pretty sweet can't wait to go back and do survival mode.

I've been cranking away every weekend since December and only 25% completed. This game offers a lot.

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#149 Heil68
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Lems did there part by not buying it.

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#150  Edited By casharmy
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@sts106mat said:
@casharmy said:

I don't think games like Tomb Raider need to die, but I personally didn't like Tomb Raider Reboot (don't know how much it's like ROTTR).

Xbox fans and PC gamers hyped it up really high and said it was better than Uncharted and I like 3rd person action games so I gave it a shot, however, It wasn't better than Uncharted. In fact, It was quite numbing and lacking in believable atmosphere or compelling story.

The fact that I don't think that even Uncharted had a strong story but Tomb Raiders was even worse killed my motivation to continue playing because people hyped it up to be so much better.

Uncharted also had really fun action sequences and story events and Tomb Raiders events felt more like a chore that I needed to complete just to get to the next section..I gave up after about 2 2hr sessions. The second time I played I just said **** this and uninstalled it from my PS4, said I'll go back to playing tetris or Bloodborne.

So, while I don't think games like Tomb Raider need to die, I personally believe other 3rd person action games do it better than what TR has done, at least going by the reboot.

Rise of the tomb raider is a much better installment.

it improves on the original in every aspect. The core gameplay is done better than the UC games IMO (well certainly 1-3).

Definitely give it a try.

I put my trust in you guys when I tried the original reboot, sorry but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Not going to happen unless givin free on PS plus which wouldn't be too hard to believe will happen sooner than later.

Like, I said you guys are the same group who I listened to when I bought the reboot and it was a massive disappointment. I'd like to clarify something tho, Uncharted 2 also didn't jump out to me when I watched footage of it when all sony fanboys and reviews were saying how amazing it was supposed to be.

I also bought UC2 off blind faith of fans and media (never bought the original) but it ended up being a great game, not the best thing ever as Demon's Souls was released the same year and you know how I feel about that, but it was "great" game none the less. That said, I didn't buy UC3 because I felt like it wouldn't be better than UC2 regardless of it's high score and RPGs and fighters come before 3rd person action games unless they are "must play" games I recognize.

ROTTR may be a greater game but I can't put my faith in it after the Reboot after listening to 3rd party claims. Story and gameplay are the most important things to motivate me as a player, the reboot had neither that inspired me. I'll give UC4 a chance only because it's a full current generation game and I only bought one game from the previous generation event tho I considered it "great".

I'm actually a very critical gamer.