Resident Evil 4 Remake is probably best RE game game to date?

Hello friends,

Currently playing RE4 remake. and I cant believe how good it is. like its best game in series so far.

took RE4 original formula, and improved it. no longer clunky or tank control.

its not horror game. its complete action game. a third person action game that is not a movie game. the shooting feel best in any of RE game. combat feel best.

The controls are much better thank Goodness walk and shoot and feel much better to play with KB/M unlike original.

RE7 was good horror title but it didnot had a great gameplay or gunplay. it was just good. becauise of horror atmosphere, RE8 suck. make it action oriented but worse.

RE4 remake did best of all. franchise did suffer from identity crisis. but as action game. RE4 is solid Third person action shooter now.

so what you think my friends? is it really best in series? lets discuss

You're not allowed to praise OUR Resident Evil 4. You have been bitchin about the game for way too long, and your "original was clunky" isn't an excuse for your decade long moaning.

RE4R isn't only the best RE title, its the best Remake, and very possibly the best third person action/horror game on the market. When i begin my playthrough, i know it will be juicy, and i genuinely have no idea how Capcom is gonna surpass this game with RE9.

Based on the reviews and reception, it's a yes from me

The question is - how many Resident Evil games have TC played? 🤣

Second - isn't TC the same person that saved over 100 times for RE2 Remake??

@ghosts4ever: weren't you bashing the og for the last few years like a hypocrite??

It is the best Resident Evil and my early contender for GotY.

It's also one of the most broken with the scope-aim clipping that can be done. Easiest game to get S+ runs. But yeah, it's great.

Can’t say that I disagree. Resident Evil 4 Remake is absolutely fantastic and is currently my 2023 GotY. That’s not to say that the franchise doesn’t have incredible games to. Resident Evil 1, 2, 4, RE Remake, and RE2 Remake are still some of the greatest games of all time.

Isn't it weird that everyone agrees that this is a banger? Pretty rare on SW.

different games. original RE4 suck. Remake Rocks.

wow, you have no clue. They are almost the same in many ways. I will say that Remake is better, but the core is the same. Keep on hating, this take has to be the silliest ones ive heard from you.

What do you mean probably? the original RE4 was the consensus GOTY of 2005 and the highest rated game that year (around top 15 all time highest rated)

No other RE game comes close. RE2 remake is probably in second place and it barely hit 90, and was not considered top 3 best game of the year in 2019 (Death Stranding, Sekiro, Disco Elysium)

@hardwenzen:

I just finished RE4 remake. Took me 29 hours lmao but I managed to very nearly get all treasures and castellans on a single playthrough with no googling.

9.7/10 would play again (literally am doing hardcore run now)

I have to agree, RE4 is arguably the best pure action/TPS game ever made.

(We are of course excluding The Last of Us 1/2 and MGS4 from this consideration), if not I would say top 5 if we literally include every third person game involving the use of guns. I'd place RE4 in 4th place and no idea what goes into 5th.

The OG RE4 is still a better game, remake was good but......

not better. not in any shape or form unless blinded by nostalgia.

I need to play the whole game before i can officially say this, but i think this game would be superior to even TLOU2, and i consider TLOU1 and MGS4 inferior to TLOU2, so these two are of course behind RE4R to me.

Why was it better? The garbage QTE's alone are ruinning the whole game, and you better be playing on pc because the console version is an unplayable mess because of its controls.

its just nostalgia. if warmblur was here. Im 100% sure he would hate this Remake and still call RE4 better.

RE4 remake is definitive version to play. Original need 2012 HD mod to work properly on PC and even by that time it feel dated.

Remake evolved the formula to make it mechanically good. its more fun shooting zombies than kicking or using knife now.

@ghosts4ever: In other words Alan Wake 2 has zero chances of being better than RE4R.

It's really good. I beat it once finding all but 2 of the castellans and now doing a professional run.

I enjoy finding secrets and collectibles without help of the internet. Guess I'm old school.

I really do hope they expand on the treasures and puzzles in the next game. Treasure hunting and those little side quests you get are sweet for the series, especially if the next game has bigger maps with more things in it.

Such a simple mind. Best ever, worst ever. Imagine being this basic.🤔

Its not better than Alan wake 1. let alone Alan wake 2 lol.

You were just talking about nostalgia, and this is you and your AW. Play it in 2023, and it'll feel like a medium budget indie game. It doesn't even get close to RE4R, be it in shooting, environment design, art direction, enemies variety, weapons variety, etc, etc. AW has absolutely nothing on RE4R.

played it recently last year. still age well.

The atmosphere and Story completely blow RE4 out of water.

Story maybe, but atmosphere? You're drunk.

Haven't played the RE4 Remake yet myself, but it seems to have a very comparable treatment to the other RE remakes like 2 & 3. But, I can see this being the best of new treatments the series has received. It's newer, and if anything it added more action to these games, and unforgettable "oh shit" moments like when you get blindsided by a chainsaw wielding enemy, or "shoot the lake" surprise. Aside from that I don't think the setting or story makes for a better game, typical RE for that.

Anyhow, I wanted to wait for a patch to Xbox controls before jumping in. I thought it would be here by now but seriously this is super fucked by Capcom to drag fixing that out. I assume they put it on the bigger list if fixes they're working on, rather than hot patch it. It's baffling though to look at control disparities between platforms because, this has nothing to do with each systems inherent control features, it was purely a design implementation disparity on Capcom's end. Oh well, plenty if play and not enough time to play it, one less title to worry about for now.

OG RE4 was never “clunky”.

The game plays beautifully, even to this day. It’s a masterclass of game design in nearly every respect, and that’s not nostalgia. But glad you’re enjoying it, Ghost. Guess what? I doubt you’re even moving all that much while shooting. It’s not a game changer, it doesn’t turn the damn thing into Max Payne 3 as everyone was pretending it would, you are, mechanically-wise, playing the same damn game that was released 18 years ago.

Congratulations, and welcome to the RE4 fan club, better late than never I guess.

As far as the best RE, while the remake is great and excels past its forebear in certain respects, I still think the original to be the better game. Not from any singular aspect, but OG RE4 had the benefit of being conceptualized and executed within its own scope; built from the ground up, it wasn’t built and reimagined on a pre-existing inception. Hence it coheres and flows better. Everything works, and everything is considered in the interplay between mechanics, level design, enemy encounter…..it’s all simply flawless. In the remake, things like pacing (due to the inclusion of menial side quests) have been affected detrimentally, some of the voice acting misses the mark, the removal of laser sights for all weapons was just bizarre bozo-tier stupidity, Ashley incessantly panting like she’s recovering from an orgasm gets incredibly annoying, her escort commands are useless compared to the original, the balance is a bit off, among other things. Building on nigh perfection risks lessening it, and unfortunately, more than a few of Capcom‘s changes here are for the worse.

OG RE4 is, like SMG, one of only a handful of games from start to finish where I really struggle to find any real fault in its design. Sure there are small nitpicks I can gripe about (like not being able to switch weapons with the d-pad, which affects the flow of combat), but I’m still continually amazed at the level of competence and craftsmanship whenever I play it.

This seems to be the prevailing consensus. Not from the nostalgia blinded either, read some pretty thorough matter of fact write ups from RE heads. From the broader aspects, down to the nitty gritty of stun values, economy, and RNG. I'm gathering that it's a give n take in many ways, but ultimately the OG remains the tighter game.

Which tbf, expected. If anything, pleasantly surprised that the remake is as great as it seems to be. It'll be my next play for sure.

From what I understand though (and it even seemed evident in the footage), ironically while neither game is "clunky", that description would fit the remake better than the OG. Hearing that Leon feels like he's carrying around an invisible extra 70lbs.

Yeah much tighter as everything with the original didn’t have to consider and build on an already existing foundation. The remake, great as it is, does feel superfluous in places.

Thing with Leon’s movement is he‘s now encumbered with additional animation frames and a slight incorporating of momentum. It’s very minimal, but enough to be noticed. He can also be stun locked if overwhelmed by crowds which has led to some unfair feeling deaths.

Worst thing I’m finding about this remake so far is that it makes me motion sick, not sure why but I can’t play on my PC due to it (which blows as mouse/kb is superior as is all settings maxed), and so have to play on PS5 and have some distance from the TV. Seems Capcom was aware of this given some options they offer.

Just want to reiterate that OG RE4 was pretty bad and the remake's demo is just ok. Also RE in general is never that great.

I feel like it was important to share my take. But hey, at least the series is not as crappy as Final Fantasy.

But why does original RE4 need 2012 HD mod to work properly on PC with KB/M.

its 2005 game but didnot even had Mouse support. and Yes original was clunky. it was tank control game but set in OTS prespective.

I don't know how could one say this. The gunplay feels awesome, its just fun to shoot shit. Atmoshere and art direction are top notch. This game has a great sense of exploration with all the treasure as well, something that other RE titles don't have or have a sloppy version of it (RE8). Leon as a character is pretty much the only good character in the whole series (well, him and Ada to be exact). You gotta dislike third person shooters to not enjoy this.

Go ahead and rehash your remakes.

@hardwenzen: I'm just commenting on the demo, if they nailed exploration then that's a plus for me because exploration is my favourite aspect of any game.

Characters in RE tend to be pretty bad, true that. Salazar... lmao.

Doesn't feel great to play (the demo).

Not a fan of the brownish colour palette. Just like I wasn't in the original. It visually upsets me. I'm an idiot like that, I only played the Gears trilogy very recently because I couldn't deal with the colour palette.

The mix of horror and action it's very difficult to nail and I don't think RE does a great job at it.

At the end of the day RE is not for me. Even 2 remake was enjoyable but once I've finished it I didn't feel the need to do a second character run. It was more like, "that was ok, off to the next game". Not like with Prime remaster, that gave me that wonderful feeling I get when I finish a goat title. Like you feel kind of depressed because what comes will always be relatively underwhelming.

I'll buy it eventually when very cheap. I'm done with buying RE titles at release only to be unimpressed.

What do you like from the third person shooters/horror genre?

@hardwenzen: TLoU2 when you're actually playing it is just superb. Big fan of Dead Space 1 and 2. Good examples for me.

All good games, so you not liking RE4R, which dead space was clearly inspired by, must be a glitch in the matrix.

I’d imagine it needs a mod because the game was originally designed around a controller. Capcom wasn’t responsible for the PC port.

No, the original isn’t clunky. It plays fine.

Damn Kathaarian. 😂

Knew you didn't like RE4, but didn't know you like Dead Space despite that.

Always thought Dead Space was peak mid lol. Like taking RE4 and removing everything that makes it interesting. From level design, to exploration, to encounter design, to individual enemy design, variety, pacing, combat, etc.. Felt like dollar store RE4 set against Event Horizons backdrop. (the latter being a good thing, do dig the setting).

Karen made a thread again

@ConanTheStoner: Dead Space it's all about the claustrophobia and tension. Which RE fails at as wannabe horror game.

Also they definitely used RE4 as reference for combat and made it better in every single aspect. Even comparing with RE4 remake I'll still go with original DS combat.

And yeah, definitely poor level design. No argument there. I agree.

Being inspired in Event Horizon is a plus particularly when you put it against whatever is that clown show of an argument and characters in RE4.

The remake is 10/10 tier, but the OG is still better imo. REmake does alot of stuff better (The entire Island segment is fucking amazing in REmake), but like 60% of the game is just a slightly worse version of the OG.

Best RE game, best remake, best game

Not only does it get rid of the god awful inventory management of the last games, not only does it get rid of the grandma slow aiming and moving of the original RE 4.

But I also really like the variety that having Ashley brings: stealth sections, having to rescue her from villagers, tense moments, it adds so much having a second main character.

@hardwenzen: First, being an inspiration doesn't mean anything. Nor am I denying its influence in the medium.

Secondly, I can't say anything about the remake. I just don't enjoy almost anything about the original. And the demo was unimpressive.

Lastly I'm have the right to be a RE hater!

Honestly I played a ton of games in the series and it's all 6s and 7s for me. Which is fine I don't avoid them. I just don't get all the praise.

Just found the game kinda souless and repetitive. Know that a shitty lazy term "soulless", but it felt like the most generic "baby first horror" 101 thing I've played. Apathy to it.

Resident Evil also takes massive influence from Western movies obv, but like Metal Gear Solid it melds it with Eastern to have eccentricities that makes it interesting.

I mean, the last +entry game sold on a 8 foot 1920's looking big titted vampire, that had gameplay attached.

I still need to finish the remake (I'm on the island now and just met the regenerators), but I'm still of the opinion the original is still superior. The remake is fanastic, but it's hard to compete with the near perfect pacing and design of the original. Some parts of the remake are just a straight up downgrade, or just not as well designed.

RE8 is heaavily scripted with barely gameplay.

RE4 R is gameplay. its third person action game that is how its done. pure gamey game.

Oh, so it got the sniper4321 pirated copy seal of approval.