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#1 mayceV
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Reasons:

1) the new way to navigate menus, and you don't need the xbl vision to do video chats

2)there are already 5 games that are going to use it . These include Fable 3, Burnout Paradise, Milo, the shovelware pack, and the unannounced game from the new studio MS is putting together.

3) EA and numerous other 3rd party publishers stated they would support the Natal

4) the Natal will come bundled with the 360 giving you more bang for your buck

what do you think?

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#2 cheese_it
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Natal has already failed.
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#3 mayceV
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Natal has already failed.cheese_it
thanks for your outstanding input. would you care to elaborate on the keen insight of you hypothesis?
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#5 Phoenix534
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I think it'll fail. It's more of a gimmick for the casuals, and all of them already have a Wii. It won't have any real use in the hardcore gaming foundation, whihc is what the Xbox 360 and the PS3 are all about.

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#6 BlackTragedy
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Natal has already failed.cheese_it

so true

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#7 Miroku32
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Natal has already failed.cheese_it
This.
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#8 osan0
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i hope it does....its a neat idea. im certainly excited for it and look forward to seeing what devs make of it.
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#9 p4ddym
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The whole thing sucks. I don't want to move around playing games without some kind of controller.
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#10 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Fable 3 wont support natal. (thank god)

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#11 ActicEdge
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Entirely dependant on software and price along with appeal. I have no clue at this point but I am compelled to say, moderate success.

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#13 G-O-M-J
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yes it will succeed because microsoft will force it on devs like they did with achievements and xbox live.
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#14 ShadowriverUB
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Natal propebly will be used like SixAxis in those games, small optional things

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#16 Fried_Shrimp
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Fable 3 wont support natal. (thank god)

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I'm not hyped for either. Fable 1 & 2 where both horrible.
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#17 DeadEndPanda
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I think it'll fail. It's more of a gimmick for the casuals, and all of them already have a Wii.

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this.

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#18 skektek
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Fail. Why would you want to flail your arms to navigate menus?

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#19 MonsieurX
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5 games?Woah,that's a lot!
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#20 zigaum
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It will be only used for casual **** games, like the ps3 thing.

They should seriously just stick to normal controlers, hope they don't go wii on the next gen.

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#21 SPYDER0416
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You misspelled "sucked".

;)

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#22 VendettaRed07
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Yes because the history books show that console add ons are always successful

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#23 monson21502
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Fail. Why would you want to flail your arms to navigate menus?

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because they can.
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#24 8Tango
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[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="cheese_it"]Natal has already failed.cheese_it
thanks for your outstanding input. would you care to elaborate on the keen insight of you hypothesis?

Natal bores me. You bore me.

I haven't laughed like that for a long time.
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#25 awssk8er716
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I am a huge fan of motion controls, and I don't see it suceeding...

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#26 StealthMonkey4
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No. It won't. You didn't give any substantial reasons to why it will. Just the fact that it can navigate menus (Probably would be easier with the controller). It comes bundled (How is this even a reason?). And that some games and developers will use it (Doesn't mean it'll actually be good in-game also, many developers used motion controls in Wii and the Wiimote still is terrible, so developers using NATAL doesn't mean NATAL is a success).
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#27 masterpinky2000
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Fable 3 is not confirmed to have Natal, I think they are only considering it. Also, Burnout Paradise is an old game, I'm pretty sure they just used it as a tech demo and weren't intending for it to be re-released.
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#28 xionvalkyrie
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I personally feel the naming is kind of odd. It reminds me of prenatal...

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#29 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="cheese_it"][QUOTE="mayceV"] thanks for your outstanding input. would you care to elaborate on the keen insight of you hypothesis?8Tango
Natal bores me. You bore me.

Post made my day lmao

Best post of the entire day. :lol: :lol:

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#30 tikki25x
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if thats the case you are just easily amused. like a child for instance.

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#31 8Tango
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if thats the case you are just easily amused. like a child for instance.

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Or you cannot take something quite hillarious, like a cynical pre teen.... =( Oh dear...
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#32 tikki25x
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or i just didnt find it funny at all. like a 30 year old man.

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#33 8Tango
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Yes, your grammar and not trying to insult younger people who find something funny clearly lead to you being a 30 year old man.

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#34 HappyAppe
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Depends purely on the software. If they can release some top notch games, I'll be easily convinced
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#35 tikki25x
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i think Natal has a chance at success but it depends on the price and functionality. if its too expensive they may as well forget about it. i sure hope my post can meet the high standards of the Grammer Police.

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#36 abuabed
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I think it's gonna suck, like the Wii did.
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#37 flazzle
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Reasons:

1) the new way to navigate menus, and you don't need the xbl vision to do video chats

2)there are already 5 games that are going to use it . These include Fable 3, Burnout Paradise, Milo, the shovelware pack, and the unannounced game from the new studio MS is putting together.

3) EA and numerous other 3rd party publishers stated they would support the Natal

4) the Natal will come bundled with the 360 giving you more bang for your buck

what do you think?

mayceV

1) I honestly don't see why using hands to navigate menus is desirable nor easier. Is clicking a button so hard or take longer to do?

2) None of those listed are impressive

3) EA is hit and miss on many games. And support may simply mean one or two games.

4) Is natal going to be bundled free?

Also, keep in mind Nintendo really knows how to reach a family/casual audience (they named their very first console 'famicom', which is short for 'family computer'), and they are really connecting with this audience both DS and Wii wise. Looking at some of those casual games for Natal, I think they MS still doesn't quite get it.

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#38 djsifer01
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Natal will fail and so will Sonys. True gamers dont wont worthless motion controls.
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#39 beekayjay
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I believe in the POTENTIAL for motion controls. HOWEVER, I don't like how motion controls are being used by Sony and MS to try to compete with Nintendo in the casual games market. For that reason, these control peripherals hold no interest for me for the time being. It boils down to effing games. If Sony and MS has games to back up their curious little toys, then I'll be interested. If its just gonna be a bunch of Wii ports and lame ass party games, then they can shove it, and I'll be PMing the TC to tell him to shove it as well.
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#40 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="cheese_it"]Natal has already failed.cheese_it
thanks for your outstanding input. would you care to elaborate on the keen insight of you hypothesis?

Natal bores me. You bore me.

Lie. You wouldn't have answered then
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#41 cainetao11
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Natal will fail and so will Sonys. True gamers dont wont worthless motion controls.djsifer01
A-I don't believe in this elitist, true gamer nonsense; B-those so-called true gamers are out numbered by potential casual ones that buy new technology because it's new.
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#42 beekayjay
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The effing thing is, WHY DO MOTION CONTROLS HAVE TO BE JUST FOR CASUAL GAMES?????? That's my problem with all this nonsense is that Sony and MS seem intent on marketing these peripherals for more casual, social applications.... No wonder the rest of us find all of it lame. Give us a kick ass Star Wars Jedi fighting game or a Lord of the Rings Conquest-like game and then you'll get our money and attention.
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#43 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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No controller, no thanks. Natal is just another means of dumbing down games for casual lesser gamers.

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#44 AdmiralBison
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The effing thing is, WHY DO MOTION CONTROLS HAVE TO BE JUST FOR CASUAL GAMES?????? That's my problem with all this nonsense is that Sony and MS seem intent on marketing these peripherals for more casual, social applications.... No wonder the rest of us find all of it lame. Give us a kick ass Star Wars Jedi fighting game or a Lord of the Rings Conquest-like game and then you'll get our money and attention.beekayjay

It's obvious you are very interested in motion tech and want it to succeed, but there are because some so called "Hardcore" gamers think they're cool simply because this doesn't appeal to them will simply rag on and think automatic fail with actual little thought in to how it will fail and ignore the information given to them on how it will work, the time and money spent on this and the overall positive reception Project Natal has been receiving.

Some find it lame because of that very reason and are to stuck in the past when it comes to accepting new technology. I would think that gamers would naturally be at the forefront of technology and more accepting then the more "Casual" observer but I think it's more ignorance and fear that gives them this attitude.

Remember this is fairly new technology and the potential for motion technology substantially integrated and complementing your more conventional games is there.

It will no doubt suite a lot of the more simply games initially, but does not necessary make them NOT fun and oncedevelopers have found ways to make more use of this technology you will see more games make use of it in very interesting ways.

It takes creativity and persistance, not pessimism and lack of imagination to push gaming to new levels.

Actually that's the actual attitude for all technology in general, because if that was not the case we may all still be playing Pong with a 1 button stick.

Then we'll be wondering how we managed to play games with out Motion technology.

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#45 beekayjay
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[QUOTE="beekayjay"]The effing thing is, WHY DO MOTION CONTROLS HAVE TO BE JUST FOR CASUAL GAMES?????? That's my problem with all this nonsense is that Sony and MS seem intent on marketing these peripherals for more casual, social applications.... No wonder the rest of us find all of it lame. Give us a kick ass Star Wars Jedi fighting game or a Lord of the Rings Conquest-like game and then you'll get our money and attention.AdmiralBison

It's obvious you are very interested in motion tech and want it to succeed, but there are because some so called "Hardcore" gamers think they're cool simply because this doesn't appeal to them will simply rag on and think automatic fail with actual little thought in to how it will fail and ignore the information given to them on how it will work, the time and money spent on this and the overall positive reception Project Natal has been receiving.

Some find it lame because of that very reason and are to stuck in the past when it comes to accepting new technology. I would think that gamers would naturally be at the forefront of technology and more accepting then the more "Casual" observer but I think it's more ignorance and fear that gives them this attitude.

Remember this is fairly new technology and the potential for motion technology substantially integrated and complementing your more conventional games is there.

It will no doubt suite a lot of the more simply games initially, but does not necessary make them NOT fun and oncedevelopers have found ways to make more use of this technology you will see more games make use of it in very interesting ways.

It takes creativity and persistance, not pessimism and lack of imagination to push gaming to new levels.

Actually that's the actual attitude for all technology in general, because if that was not the case we may all still be playing Pong with a 1 button stick.

Then we'll be wondering how we managed to play games with out Motion technology.

I agree. I totally see the potential in the technology but my frustrations are two-fold. First, the prevalent attitudes of gamers which you've mentioned is annoying: without thinking past the connection of motion controls to the Wii, people just quickly dismiss motion controls because they so readily equate them with the Wii, and also the demographic the Wii targets, the casual gaming market. On top of that, I'm frustrated with MS and Sony for not recognizing this, and seeing oppurtunities for motion controls beyond just family oriented part games. Somehow, motion controls have been locked in to be exclusive to a particular type of gaming market and thats just a sad, pathetic underscoring of a missed oppurtunity.
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Can you spare your time machine for while?
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#47 NicolasBai
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Weak points pf Natal are lacking force feedback, latency. I'd rather use controller to play Burnout Paradise than having an air-made steering wheel.
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#48 siddhu33
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Natal will succeed when a street fighter for natal comes out, and you can kick butt online against other players with it.

It could also be quite cool in 1 vs 100.

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#49 CHRION987
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Succeed at dumbing down controls so grandma can play, maybe, but what gamer really gives a crap!!!! it will never be used in a tournament, or for anything serious or hardcore, which is all that really matters to actual gamers. Silly controls that actually lose detail, speed, and accuracy in the hands of players is a major fail

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#50 gamedude234
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nah, it'll fail*looks at xbox 360*i love you just the way you are!anyway, anyone who wanted motion controls have a wii.and casuals only get 1 console each gen. *looks at wii**pats wii on the back*you're THE revolution.