PlayStation 4 gives up to 5.5GB of RAM to game developers

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#251 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 OS > Windows 8

XBOunity

LOL memory bloat isn't something to be proud of.

Thats his damage control I guess 

No one every accused him of being brilliant. I have heard useless, dumb, wrestling, and lost all come up when someone mentioned his name. Take that how you want.
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#252 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Parallel concurrent processes such as web browser, video recording, social button and stuff like that. Open your task manager and check how much memory Google Crhome alone consumes.

jhonMalcovich

Chrome opens a new process per tab.

Will PS4 allow in-game web browsing. If it does, then those 3.5 GB are easily required for that feature. Anyway that social button Sony was talking about can easily be an equivalent of the web browser, hence it will consume a good chunk of memory.  

Hardly, if its a dedicated browser then it can be made lightweight.
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#253 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

More than the Xbone.

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It is? I don't think so. lol!! http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/05/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-os-uses-3gb-ram-5gb-ram-for-games/ http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-ram-breakdown-5gb-for-games-3gb-for-os Cry more bias troll.

Read an article, hence a thread title, biased troll.

Are you gonna cry?
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#254 menes777
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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Chrome opens a new process per tab. clyde46

Will PS4 allow in-game web browsing. If it does, then those 3.5 GB are easily required for that feature. Anyway that social button Sony was talking about can easily be an equivalent of the web browser, hence it will consume a good chunk of memory.  

Hardly, if its a dedicated browser then it can be made lightweight.

I was thinking surely that they are not going to try run IE right? :P

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#255 clyde46
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 OS > Windows 8

ramonnl

LOL memory bloat isn't something to be proud of.

 

windows 8 -> watching youtube -> 11 gb usage -> blue screen of death

Yea, thats not right. Backup, reformat and have a nice day.
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#256 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Will PS4 allow in-game web browsing. If it does, then those 3.5 GB are easily required for that feature. Anyway that social button Sony was talking about can easily be an equivalent of the web browser, hence it will consume a good chunk of memory.  

menes777

Hardly, if its a dedicated browser then it can be made lightweight.

I was thinking surely that they are not going to try run IE right? :P

You can also cut down to usage by limiting browser features like Flash etc.
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#257 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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i just find it quite amazing that the ps4 ram has a 108 GB/S advantage over the XB1 ram though, that is QUITE the differnce
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#258 clyde46
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i just find it quite amazing that the ps4 ram has a 108 GB/S advantage over the XB1 ram though, that is QUITE the differnce xboxiphoneps3
And this is directed at?
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#259 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]i just find it quite amazing that the ps4 ram has a 108 GB/S advantage over the XB1 ram though, that is QUITE the differnce clyde46
And this is directed at?

no one really, i was just comparing
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#260 menes777
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Hardly, if its a dedicated browser then it can be made lightweight. clyde46

I was thinking surely that they are not going to try run IE right? :P

You can also cut down to usage by limiting browser features like Flash etc.

Yep that's true, I was mainly joking about how much bloat IE has had in the past.  :)

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#261 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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HAH!

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#262 ninjapirate2000
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MS is better at making software.
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#263 clyde46
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HAH!

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seanmcloughlin
Shamelessly stolen from the GAF I presume? :lol:
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#264 menes777
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

HAH!

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clyde46

Shamelessly stolen from the GAF I presume? :lol:

:lol:

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#265 TheRealBigRich
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Between the government demanding so much data from MS and the PS4 looking overall pretty meh so far , this gen is gonna blow. I think PC is going to get a boom in gaming this gen.CanYouDiglt
so you would play on a pc that would be the government's primary way to spy over consoles ?
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#266 ramonnl
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MS is better at making software. ninjapirate2000

 

Isn't ps4 using modified freebsd 9?

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#267 Seabas989
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Can't say I'm surprised.

Whether is'd Sony, MS, or Nintendo, 1st party companies tend to use smoke and mirrors to hype a system.

But it's all about the games and Sony has done a good job there (minus the Vita lol).

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[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]MS is better at making software. ramonnl

 

Isn't ps4 using modified freebsd 9?

yep it is
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#269 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

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#270 Kinthalis
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!

 

Where all the cows that said the PS4 OS wasn't a "bloated POS like windows" when moe sensible people were estimating 2 gigs or so of RAM reserved for the OS?

 

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

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#271 GuNsbl4ziN
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HAH!

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seanmcloughlin
Very nice indeed.
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#272 Kinthalis
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Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

Davekeeh

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA  Here they come!

 

Cry some more.

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#273 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="blackace"] It is? I don't think so. lol!! http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/05/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-os-uses-3gb-ram-5gb-ram-for-games/ http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-ram-breakdown-5gb-for-games-3gb-for-os Cry more bias troll.

Read an article, hence a thread title, biased troll.

Are you gonna cry?

Nope. I'm laughing my butt off at you guys. Swiper should only be running off with half of that sixth stick, by the way. Of course, after the months and months of watching you Lems get thrashed, I can't expect anything less than you guys to celebrate this news completely irregardless of the facts.
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#274 jhonMalcovich
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Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

Davekeeh

What Eurogamer  has to do with this ? :?

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

jhonMalcovich

What Eurogamer  has to do with this ? :?

They aren't sucking off Sony.
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#276 menes777
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

Kinthalis

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA  Here they come!

 

Cry some more.

That dude is either just trolling 100% of the time or he's completely delusional.  Every now and then he has a coherent thought process but most of the time he just sounds like a teacher in a Peanuts cartoon.

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#277 blackace
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

Not really 4.5 it looks like oh yeahhhhhhhh0

clyde46

5.5GB right there in the thread title.

Actually, 4.5GB with a flexible 1GB.

Exactly and that's only if the O/S isn't already utilizing that RAM. If's hilarious watching Cows damage control this. Original Sony said 7 GB would be for games. LMAO!! Sony LIED!! All the Kaz and Sony @$$ kissers have been owned once again. I honest don't know why gamers are killing themselves about the RAM, as most PC games will only use 1-4GB of ram. Are there any PC game developers out there that know of a PC games that uses 5GB or more of RAM for their games? Here's some examples. Witcher 2 - 1 GB Ram - Recommended 4 GB Ram Guild Wars 2 - 2 GB Ram - Recommened 4 GB Ram Total War: Shogun 2 - 1GB Ram - Recommended 4 GB Ram. These are on the PC which has more things running on it then a game console. 4GB is the most needed to these highly graphical PC games. Most of these console games will be running at lower resolution then the PC so there's no way they will need more then 4GB of RAM. Console gamers need to stop bugging out.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]5.5GB right there in the thread title. blackace
Actually, 4.5GB with a flexible 1GB.

Exactly and that's only if the O/S isn't already utilizing that RAM. If's hilarious watching Cows damage control this. Original Sony said 7 GB would be for games. LMAO!! Sony LIED!! All the Kaz and Sony @$$ kissers have been owned once again. I honest don't know why gamers are killing themselves about the RAM, as most PC games will only use 1-4GB of ram. Are there any PC game developers out there that know of a PC games that uses 5GB or more of RAM for their games? Here's some examples. Witcher 2 - 1 GB Ram - Recommended 4 GB Ram Guild Wars 2 - 2 GB Ram - Recommened 4 GB Ram Total War: Shogun 2 - 1GB Ram - Recommended 4 GB Ram. These are on the PC which has more things running on it then a game console. 4GB is the most needed to these highly graphical PC games. Most of these console games will be running at lower resolution then the PC so there's no way they will need more then 4GB of RAM. Console gamers need to stop bugging out.

So much mad.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

HAH!

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clyde46

Shamelessly stolen from the GAF I presume? :lol:

Of course, they don't call if "gif gaf" for nothing lol

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#280 Miketheman83
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That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!
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#281 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Sony will put Eurogamer in their place soon enough, and all System Wars members will get owned once again

menes777

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA  Here they come!

 

Cry some more.

That dude is either just trolling 100% of the time or he's completely delusional.  Every now and then he has a coherent thought process but most of the time he just sounds like a teacher in a Peanuts cartoon.

He should really change his avatar.

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#282 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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 The Witness on the PS4 already uses 5 gigs of ram, so it seems like developers already can use the "flexible memory" 

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#283 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

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#284 clyde46
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That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!Miketheman83
The PS4 is more powerful though.
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#285 lostrib
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Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

Davekeeh

lol. sure

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#286 NathanDrakeSwag
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Still more than Xbone. Keep trying to justify your NSA box lems :lol:

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!clyde46
The PS4 is more powerful though.

lol wtf? Miketheman has no idea what he is talking about
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#288 jhonMalcovich
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Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

Davekeeh

So console gaming needs saving now. Why that ? Is it ... DIEING ? :P

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#289 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

More than the Xbone.

Shewgenja
It is? I don't think so. lol!! http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/05/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-os-uses-3gb-ram-5gb-ram-for-games/ http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-ram-breakdown-5gb-for-games-3gb-for-os Cry more bias troll.

Read an article, hence a thread title, biased troll.

I already did. You should read the article again. I'm loving all the damage control.
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http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/10/the-witness-blow-confirms-game-currently-uses-5gb-of-ps4-ram/

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#291 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

lostrib

lol. sure


Without Sony, only the Wii U and an anti-consumerbox would exist

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#292 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!clyde46
The PS4 is more powerful though.

Nope not anymore.
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#293 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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Hope we get some official word soon, Digital Foundry have been pretty shoddy when it's come to these kind of rumours, the whole 7 mins recording time amongst two other rumours that were all rubbish.
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#294 Kinthalis
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The whole 1 GB is flexible is pointless.

 

If you cannot be 100% certain that the extra RAM is available at any given time, you CANNOT design a game that requires it. That is just programming 101. It might mean that a game engine cna utilize it if it's available, but then it won't be for something critical, only as a temporary cache perhaps, to reduc eload times, or some other non-ciritcal functon.  You definitely don't want your game to crash or your performance to suddenly go through the floor because it's run out of memory.

 

As for consoles being more efficient in terms of memory use?  Not really. At least not when thinkign abotu discret assets. In fact modenr GPU's are capable of supporting more modern texture compression methonds than current gen consoles. And next gen consoles will only do as well as current gen PC's in that department.

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#295 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!Miketheman83
The PS4 is more powerful though.

Nope not anymore.

Umm, yes it is. GO cry some more.
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#296 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]That's what happens when cows talk crap before knowing all the facts. So much for the PS4 being 50% more powerful. BAHAHAHA!Miketheman83
The PS4 is more powerful though.

Nope not anymore.

Why did the GPU just disappear or something?
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#297 WilliamRLBaker
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lol thats awesome and knowing MS the os foot print will shrink to 1.5 gigs in a few years offering far more ram than ps4 for games.

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#298 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

jhonMalcovich

So console gaming needs saving now. Why that ? Is it ... DIEING ? :P

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It almost died, because of the Wii U and the Xbox One, but Sony didn't let that happen, as long as Sony exists, console gaming has a future

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#299 LordOfPoms
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http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/10/the-witness-blow-confirms-game-currently-uses-5gb-of-ps4-ram/

xboxiphoneps3
Well isn't that interesting. Perhaps Digital Foundry was wrong again? They haven't been in top form as of late.
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#300 jhonMalcovich
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just wait and see, Sony is here to save console gaming, unlike Microsoft

Davekeeh

lol. sure


Without Sony, only the Wii U and an anti-consumerbox would exist

Well...actually any console is kinda abusive and anti-consumer at a certain extent.