PC is just battering consoles into dust

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#151 Cranler
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@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

How exactly does multiplats selling well on PC refute the OP?

Why the **** does Shadow of Mordor not count on PC? It seems like it'll be a great PC title.It won't stop Civ:BE from selling great and probably scoring high.

I don't see how your train of thought is relevant at all at PC crushing any single console.

OP's whole premise is pc exclusives yet multiplats are the most popular games on steam. When did I say Shadow of Mordor didn't count?

Looks like most steam gamers like the console type game experience.

...no it really doesn't.

Haven't you been warned now twice to stop trolling?

So a thread titled "PC battering consoles" isn't trolling but me pointing out what games sell best on steam is trolling?

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Any multiplat game I play on my PC will always perform better than its console counterpart. That is why PC gaming is awesome.

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#153 lostrib
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@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

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#154 clyde46
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@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

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#155 lostrib
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@clyde46: I don't know why I even tried with Cranler. I need to go back to treating him like lowe0

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#156 clyde46
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@lostrib said:

@clyde46: I don't know why I even tried with Cranler. I need to go back to treating him like lowe0

I thought he was lowe0.

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#157  Edited By lostrib
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@clyde46: don't know, but close enough to the same

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#158 Cranler
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@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

Most people here are trolling.

PS 4's best selling games are KZ Shadow Fall, Infamous and TLOU Remaster.

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#159 Cranler
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@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

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#160 ReadingRainbow4
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I thought Cranler was a hermit.

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#161 clyde46
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@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

Nice source you got there.... oh wait.....

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#162 lostrib
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I thought Cranler was a hermit.

He's a PC gamer, but I think it would be hard to say he's a PC fanboy

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#163 MonsieurX
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@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

wat

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@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I thought Cranler was a hermit.

He's a PC gamer, but I think it would be hard to say he's a PC fanboy

I'm starting to remember him now, back last year he made so many stupid fucking threads about console performance. I think he even argued in favor of the xbones power.

there's just so many assholes that fly through this place, it's easy to lose track.

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#165  Edited By Cranler
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@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

Nice source you got there.... oh wait.....

Correct me if I'm wrong but Civ Beyond Earth is the biggest pc exclusive of the year and the min req is an 8 year old pc. Try running Dead Rising 3 on Beyond Earth's min req pc:

OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
    • Memory: 2 GB RAM
    • Graphics: 256 MB ATI HD3650 or better, 256 MB nVidia 8800 GT or better, or Intel HD 3000 or better integrated graphics
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Hard Drive: 8 GB available spac

Look at Shadow of Mordors reqs:

      • Minimum:

OS: 64-bit: Vista, Win 7, Win 8

    • Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 GHz
    • Memory: 3 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 | AMD Radeon HD 5850
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 25 GB available space

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#166 Cranler
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I thought Cranler was a hermit.

He's a PC gamer, but I think it would be hard to say he's a PC fanboy

I'm starting to remember him now, back last year he made so many stupid fucking threads about console performance. I think he even argued in favor of the xbones power.

there's just so many assholes that fly through this place, it's easy to lose track.

I'm an asshole because I don't share your perspective on gaming?

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@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

Nice source you got there.... oh wait.....

Correct me if I'm wrong but Civ Beyond Earth is the biggest pc exclusive of the year and the min req is an 8 year old pc. Try running Dead Rising 3 on Beyond Earth's min req pc:

      • Minimum:

OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
    • Memory: 2 GB RAM
    • Graphics: 256 MB ATI HD3650 or better, 256 MB nVidia 8800 GT or better, or Intel HD 3000 or better integrated graphics
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Hard Drive: 8 GB available spac

Look at Shadow of Mordors reqs:

      • Minimum:

OS: 64-bit: Vista, Win 7, Win 8

    • Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 GHz
    • Memory: 3 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 | AMD Radeon HD 5850
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 25 GB available space

Are you seriously trying to use system specs as a means of saying that consoles sell PC hardware? Man you are even dumber than I expected.

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#168 ReadingRainbow4
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@Cranler said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I thought Cranler was a hermit.

He's a PC gamer, but I think it would be hard to say he's a PC fanboy

I'm starting to remember him now, back last year he made so many stupid fucking threads about console performance. I think he even argued in favor of the xbones power.

there's just so many assholes that fly through this place, it's easy to lose track.

I'm an asshole because I don't share your perspective on gaming?

No I just think you're an asshole.

that's ok, I think a lot of people are assholes, it's nothing personal.

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@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

Nice source you got there.... oh wait.....

Correct me if I'm wrong but Civ Beyond Earth is the biggest pc exclusive of the year and the min req is an 8 year old pc. Try running Dead Rising 3 on Beyond Earth's min req pc:

      • Minimum:

OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
    • Memory: 2 GB RAM
    • Graphics: 256 MB ATI HD3650 or better, 256 MB nVidia 8800 GT or better, or Intel HD 3000 or better integrated graphics
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Hard Drive: 8 GB available spac

Look at Shadow of Mordors reqs:

      • Minimum:

OS: 64-bit: Vista, Win 7, Win 8

    • Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 GHz
    • Memory: 3 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 | AMD Radeon HD 5850
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 25 GB available space

Are you seriously trying to use system specs as a means of saying that consoles sell PC hardware? Man you are even dumber than I expected.

The new consoles are causing the average min req on pc games to jump dramatically. How will this not result in an increase of pc hardware sales?

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#170 lostrib
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@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

Most people here are trolling.

PS 4's best selling games are KZ Shadow Fall, Infamous and TLOU Remaster.

Please provide your sources. Because I'm pretty sure each of those was 1-2 million each at last report. While I believe Activision has announced that COD Ghosts is the number 1 title on next gen consoles

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I don't think there is one game on the TC's list that I would even want to play for free. I have a decent gaming rig, but it won't be used for any of those games. The only game I can see myself getting for pc this year is Project Cars

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#172 RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

How exactly does multiplats selling well on PC refute the OP?

Why the **** does Shadow of Mordor not count on PC? It seems like it'll be a great PC title.It won't stop Civ:BE from selling great and probably scoring high.

I don't see how your train of thought is relevant at all at PC crushing any single console.

OP's whole premise is pc exclusives yet multiplats are the most popular games on steam. When did I say Shadow of Mordor didn't count?

Looks like most steam gamers like the console type game experience.

1. He never talked about PC exclusive sales or steam popularity. He clearly was listing awesome upcoming exclusives which dwarf any console exclusive list.

2. Shadows or Mordor is a PC experience too.

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#173  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:

All those exclusives yet the top sellers on steam right now are Dead Rising 3 and La Noire.

Yet?

You act like DR3 and LA:N being top sellers somehow prevents PC from having tons of aaa-aa scoring exclusives.

Here is an example of what you are doing:

"Poster1: Ferrari Enzo does better than a Honda Civic in all performance categories."

"Poster2: Yet Civic has more sales"

**** off dude.

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#174 glez13
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Well this is a jhon thread, so I'm not surprised it derailed fast with lots of trolling and counter-trolling.

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#175  Edited By Dasein808
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@RoboCopISJesus said:
@Cranler said OP's whole premise is pc exclusives

1. He never talked about PC exclusive sales or steam popularity.

Lol, he tries so hard, but still manages to fail horribly.

@jhonMalcovich said:

Just this year, PC has got the awesome Divinity: Original Sin, Five Nights at Freddy's, Xenonauts, Wildstar, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2, Tropico 5, Broken Sword 5, LIfe Goes On, Half Minute Hero: The Second Coming, Arma 3, Betrayer, Age of Wonders 3, Smite, Banished, Loadout, SW The Old Republic Galactic Starfighter, Strike Vector, Insurgency, Blackguards, The Banner Saga among many others... plus superior versions of multiplats, and of course, plus xbox one launch excluisves.

And the year is far to be over and incoming PC games that we yet to play will be

Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, CIv 6: Beyond Earth, Elite Dangerous, Alone in the dark Reboot, Haunted House Reboot, J.u.l.i.a.: Among the stars, Ghost of a Tale, Ancient Space (awesome space RTS **** YEH), The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Dreamfall Chapters, Stronghold Crusaders 2, Gauntlet, The Sacred Tears True (JRPG), The Talos Principle, Solarix, Yatagarasu: Attack on Cataclysm (2d Japanese fighter), etc

Some of the aforementioned games will come to consoles, but much later after the PC release.

Repeat your lies enough and you can make them true, Cranler.

Oh wait, no you can't because anyone with eyes and basic reading comprehension can read the OP and realize that you are once again lying and distorting in an effort to derail yet another thread with your brand of trolling.

Weren't you already given yet another warning regrading this sort of behavior?

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#176 Cranler
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@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

Most people here are trolling.

PS 4's best selling games are KZ Shadow Fall, Infamous and TLOU Remaster.

Please provide your sources. Because I'm pretty sure each of those was 1-2 million each at last report. While I believe Activision has announced that COD Ghosts is the number 1 title on next gen consoles

Number 1 title on next gen consoles sounds like they combined the sales of both versions.

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#177  Edited By CrownKingArthur
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@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

Most people here are trolling.

PS 4's best selling games are KZ Shadow Fall, Infamous and TLOU Remaster.

Please provide your sources. Because I'm pretty sure each of those was 1-2 million each at last report. While I believe Activision has announced that COD Ghosts is the number 1 title on next gen consoles

Number 1 title on next gen consoles sounds like they combined the sales of both versions.

why do you mean by that? is that good, or bad? (correct/incorrect, use terminology you deem appropriate).

Really looking forward to your answer.

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@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@Cranler said:

@clyde46 said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler: your statements are trolling.

This thread is system wars fanboy rhetoric that is present on all sides. Do you also point out the multiplats are the best selling games on consoles when they talk about having the best exclusives?

And how multiplats sell consoles? Just look at what Sony is doing with Destiny.

Consoles sell pc hardware.

Nice source you got there.... oh wait.....

Correct me if I'm wrong but Civ Beyond Earth is the biggest pc exclusive of the year and the min req is an 8 year old pc. Try running Dead Rising 3 on Beyond Earth's min req pc:

      • Minimum:

OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
    • Memory: 2 GB RAM
    • Graphics: 256 MB ATI HD3650 or better, 256 MB nVidia 8800 GT or better, or Intel HD 3000 or better integrated graphics
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Hard Drive: 8 GB available spac

Look at Shadow of Mordors reqs:

      • Minimum:

OS: 64-bit: Vista, Win 7, Win 8

    • Processor: Intel Core i5-750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 GHz
    • Memory: 3 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 | AMD Radeon HD 5850
    • DirectX: Version 11
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 25 GB available space

Are you seriously trying to use system specs as a means of saying that consoles sell PC hardware? Man you are even dumber than I expected.

The new consoles are causing the average min req on pc games to jump dramatically. How will this not result in an increase of pc hardware sales?

Ok, so where is your data to back up this statement? Showing me a list of system specs that haven't exactly improved alot in the last few years. I bought a used GTX460 back in 2010!

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#179  Edited By Cranler
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

How exactly does multiplats selling well on PC refute the OP?

Why the **** does Shadow of Mordor not count on PC? It seems like it'll be a great PC title.It won't stop Civ:BE from selling great and probably scoring high.

I don't see how your train of thought is relevant at all at PC crushing any single console.

OP's whole premise is pc exclusives yet multiplats are the most popular games on steam. When did I say Shadow of Mordor didn't count?

Looks like most steam gamers like the console type game experience.

1. He never talked about PC exclusive sales or steam popularity. He clearly was listing awesome upcoming exclusives which dwarf any console exclusive list.

2. Shadows or Mordor is a PC experience too.

He brings up a bunch of games that most pc gamers don't care about.

Shadows of Mordor is an Assassins Creed inspired game and many hermits consider that franchise to be casual console trash.

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

All those exclusives yet the top sellers on steam right now are Dead Rising 3 and La Noire.

Yet?

You act like DR3 and LA:N being top sellers somehow prevents PC from having tons of aaa-aa scoring exclusives.

Here is an example of what you are doing:

"Poster1: Ferrari Enzo does better than a Honda Civic in all performance categories."

"Poster2: Yet Civic has more sales"

**** off dude.

Most of those games sell very poorly.

That's an awful example. So the Ferrari Enzo is supposed to represent the budget priced titles and the big budget higher priced game DR 3 is supposed to represent an economy car?

Just because I see things differently doesn't make it ok to tell me to **** off. Many hermits love posting in system wars but hate having any opposition. Makes no sense. If you don't like opposition there's the Mac and PC forum.

@Dasein808 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:
@Cranler said OP's whole premise is pc exclusives

1. He never talked about PC exclusive sales or steam popularity.

Lol, he tries so hard, but still manages to fail horribly.

@jhonMalcovich said:

Just this year, PC has got the awesome Divinity: Original Sin, Five Nights at Freddy's, Xenonauts, Wildstar, The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2, Tropico 5, Broken Sword 5, LIfe Goes On, Half Minute Hero: The Second Coming, Arma 3, Betrayer, Age of Wonders 3, Smite, Banished, Loadout, SW The Old Republic Galactic Starfighter, Strike Vector, Insurgency, Blackguards, The Banner Saga among many others... plus superior versions of multiplats, and of course, plus xbox one launch excluisves.

And the year is far to be over and incoming PC games that we yet to play will be

Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity, CIv 6: Beyond Earth, Elite Dangerous, Alone in the dark Reboot, Haunted House Reboot, J.u.l.i.a.: Among the stars, Ghost of a Tale, Ancient Space (awesome space RTS **** YEH), The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Dreamfall Chapters, Stronghold Crusaders 2, Gauntlet, The Sacred Tears True (JRPG), The Talos Principle, Solarix, Yatagarasu: Attack on Cataclysm (2d Japanese fighter), etc

Some of the aforementioned games will come to consoles, but much later after the PC release.

Repeat your lies enough and you can make them true, Cranler.

Oh wait, no you can't because anyone with eyes and basic reading comprehension can read the OP and realize that you are once again lying and distorting in an effort to derail yet another thread with your brand of trolling.

Weren't you already given yet another warning regrading this sort of behavior?

What lies?

Derailing is the most overused word on this forum. You speak as if the conversation has shifted to game soundtracks.

How am I derailing by pointing out that most pc gamers don't care about those exclusives the op listed? The exclusives were obviously the op's main theme. Multiplats are only superior if the gamer has a good enough pc.

If you don't like opposition there's the Mac and PC forum.

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@clyde46: I bought it and played, its just more Infamous. The main character is boring as hell. The story was drab. The only thing it has going for it is the graphics.

You want more than that?!!!

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so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

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#183 clyde46
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@lostrib said:

so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

Lel. I see where this is going.

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#184  Edited By Cranler
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@lostrib said:

so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

Hermits get away with anything on this forum it seems. If I did this I would have been flagged and reported by 10 different hermits.

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#185 lostrib
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@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

Hermits get away with anything on this forum it seems.

I haven't heard of that game

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#186 CrownKingArthur
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@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

Hermits get away with anything on this forum it seems. If I did this I would have been flagged and reported by 10 different hermits.

oh you poor thing. so victimised.

nah just kidding you deserve everything you get.

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#187  Edited By Cranler
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@CrownKingArthur said:
@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

so what's everyone's favorite game sound track?

Hermits get away with anything on this forum it seems. If I did this I would have been flagged and reported by 10 different hermits.

nah just kidding you deserve everything you get.

Why? Because I don't share the pc fanboys one sided, clouded view of gaming?

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#188 lostrib
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@Cranler said:

If I did this I would have been flagged and reported by 10 different hermits.

I'm not seeing the problem

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#189  Edited By clyde46
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#190  Edited By Dasein808
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@Cranler said:

What lies?

@Cranler said: OP's whole premise is pc exclusives

The one where you tried to reframe the OP's argument to be around PC exclusives even though it's obvious to anyone capable of reading that that's not the case at all.

It's just you doing what you always do in an effort to shift the conversation to whatever you've decided to try and derail it with this time.

I welcome opposition and legitimate debate, but I despise pathetic trolls who: ignore the points of others, and make distorted trollolol comparisons, all while trying to recontextualize arguments; thinking that everyone else is too stupid to notice or call them on it.

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#191  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:The exclusives were obviously the op's main theme. Multiplats are only superior if the gamer has a good enough pc.

If you don't like opposition there's the Mac and PC forum.

1. His main theme was not exclusive sales.

2. Multiplats are almost always better on PC during any given gen. Yes its a bit expensive at the start of a gen, but hey its true.

PC has exclusive lists that dwarf consoles, and the best version of most games (multiplats). Win Win. No one mentioned sales. Although PC has more software sales than all consoles combined.

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#192 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Outside of this topic and taking in the general tone and what's said by pc gamers on thisforum just adds up to hypocrisy.

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#193 Cranler
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@Dasein808 said:
@Cranler said:

What lies?

@Cranler said: OP's whole premise is pc exclusives

The one where you tried to reframe the OP's argument to be around PC exclusives even though it's obvious to anyone capable of reading that that's not the case at all.

It's just you doing what you always do in an effort to shift the conversation to whatever you've decided to try and derail it with this time.

I welcome opposition and legitimate debate, but I despise pathetic trolls who: ignore the points of others, and make distorted trollolol comparisons, all while trying to recontextualize arguments; thinking that everyone else is too stupid to notice or call them on it.

Most of the op's opening post was about exclusives. Exclusives which for the most part are ignored by most pc gamers.

When do I ignore points?

My posts are directly related to the topic.

So has anyone been able to, by your standards, offer opposition and legitimate debate?

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:The exclusives were obviously the op's main theme. Multiplats are only superior if the gamer has a good enough pc.

If you don't like opposition there's the Mac and PC forum.

1. His main theme was not exclusive sales.

2. Multiplats are almost always better on PC during any given gen. Yes its a bit expensive at the start of a gen, but hey its true.

PC has exclusive lists that dwarf consoles, and the best version of most games (multiplats). Win Win. No one mentioned sales. Although PC has more software sales than all consoles combined.

1. He spent most of the post talking about exclusives. I don't see anything wrong with pointing out the unpopularity of most of those games.

2. How would you know?

PC has more revenue when you factor in countried where consoles are banned, mmo's and browser gaming which don't exist on consoles.

Traditional game sales on pc are dwarfed by consoles.

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#194  Edited By clyde46
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@Heirren said:

Outside of this topic and taking in the general tone and what's said by pc gamers on thisforum just adds up to hypocrisy.

And consolites do nothing of the same? Again, holy generalisation there Batman!

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@clyde46:

No, they don't. What's available on pc is not available on consoles. Pc fanboys well rave about better versions of console designed games. CONSOLE games. Pc fanboys will beg and petition for console exclusive games. Pc fanboys will point out that they can use any controller they want--a control mechanism that has evolved BECAUSE of consoles and console gamers. Pc gamers often point out how they can play any console game of the past through emulation. ETC ETC ETC.......yet consoles still aren't the way to play. It just doesn't add up. Or, these people simply don't grasp any of that.

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#196  Edited By Dasein808
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@Cranler said:

Most of the op's opening post was about exclusives. Exclusives which for the most part are ignored by most pc gamers.

When do I ignore points?

So has anyone been able to, by your standards, offer opposition and legitimate debate?

Most of the OP's post was about the reasons he felts that PCs are "battering" consoles.

He mentions exclusives, AND multiplats, in addition to acknowledging that some of the currently "exclusive" titles may eventually make their way to consoles.

Every time that someone proves you wrong, or calls you out for your ridiculous comparisons. (i.e. "These cherry picked stats show that 360 Skyrim gets better framerates @720p then on a PC using a GPU that barely exceeds the devs' minimum requirements @1080p and with more eye candy. Facts are also not neutral if they offend my sensibilities. Trollolol, my trolling is a art." )

Only the consolites that know a bit about the tech that composes their platform of choice, can acknowledge that the PC is the objectively superior platform, and not resort to your tactics.

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#197 RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:

1. He spent most of the post talking about exclusives. I don't see anything wrong with pointing out the unpopularity of most of those games.

2. How would you know?

PC has more revenue when you factor in countried where consoles are banned, mmo's and browser gaming which don't exist on consoles.

Traditional game sales on pc are dwarfed by consoles.

1. He never mentioned sales. He was saying how those games looked great and how many of them there was.

2. Digital Foundry and common sense.

3. Even if we use only "traditional games" (non f2p/browser), no 1 console touches PC. You gotta combine some.

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#198 CrownKingArthur
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@Heirren said:

@clyde46:

No, they don't. What's available on pc is not available on consoles. Pc fanboys well rave about better versions of console designed games. CONSOLE games. Pc fanboys will beg and petition for console exclusive games. Pc fanboys will point out that they can use any controller they want--a control mechanism that has evolved BECAUSE of consoles and console gamers. Pc gamers often point out how they can play any console game of the past through emulation. ETC ETC ETC.......yet consoles still aren't the way to play. It just doesn't add up. Or, these people simply don't grasp any of that.

maybe look around a bit more. the other day i saw a consolite bad mouthing star citizen for things that weren't even factual!

you might have seen it yourself.

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#199  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@Heirren said:

@clyde46:

No, they don't. What's available on pc is not available on consoles. Pc fanboys well rave about better versions of console designed games. CONSOLE games. Pc fanboys will beg and petition for console exclusive games. Pc fanboys will point out that they can use any controller they want--a control mechanism that has evolved BECAUSE of consoles and console gamers. Pc gamers often point out how they can play any console game of the past through emulation. ETC ETC ETC.......yet consoles still aren't the way to play. It just doesn't add up. Or, these people simply don't grasp any of that.

Console gaming, best on PC. All while having its exclusive genres and niches.

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#200 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@CrownKingArthur:

Bashing goes both ways. Childish most of the times, but that isn't related to what I had said.