PC Gaming at 4K resolution (People still have 56k?)

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#151 ChubbyGuy40
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Cost of PC: Your soul

jhcho2

And people thought we were kidding when we said PC gaming was cheap.

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#152 Cyberdot
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Everybody knows that PC is much more capable than consoles when it comes to everything about graphics and performance.

I was having a hard time trying to understand why consolites are torturing themselves, and then I started to believe that they simply don't care about superior gaming experience. They just want to play games and they don't even care if the games are of awful quality. Consolites are people with incredibly low standards - they are called dirty peasants for a reason.

They are also casual gamers who would play a game for 15 minutes and then switch it off - I can perfectly understand why they can tolerant low quality games, I would be the same if I was a casual gamer and there would be absolutely no reason to invest in a gaming PC. People who are invested in the hobby and spends a large amount of time playing games would avoid consoles like plague.

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Everybody knows that PC is much more capable than consoles when it comes to everything about graphics and performance.

I was having a hard time trying to understand why consolites are torturing themselves, and then I started to believe that they simply don't care about superior gaming experience. They just want to play games and they don't even care if the games are of awful quality. Consolites are people with incredibly low standards - they are called dirty peasants for a reason.

They are also casual gamers who would play a game for 15 minutes and then switch it off - I can perfectly understand why they can tolerant low quality games, I would be the same if I was a casual gamer and there would be absolutely no reason to invest in a gaming PC. People who are invested in the hobby and spends a large amount of time playing games, they would avoid consoles like plague.

Cyberdot
Or maybe they prefer the games consoles have to offer. Jeesh, hermzits are so up in arms about their system.
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#154 Sushiglutton  Online
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This pic shows (near) infinite resolution. Sadly I had to compress it for the forum. But I'm sure the idea is still visible. 

 

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#155 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Everybody knows that PC is much more capable than consoles when it comes to everything about graphics and performance.

I was having a hard time trying to understand why consolites are torturing themselves, and then I started to believe that they simply don't care about superior gaming experience. They just want to play games and they don't even care if the games are of awful quality. Consolites are people with incredibly low standards - they are called dirty peasants for a reason.

They are also casual gamers who would play a game for 15 minutes and then switch it off - I can perfectly understand why they can tolerant low quality games, I would be the same if I was a casual gamer and there would be absolutely no reason to invest in a gaming PC. People who are invested in the hobby and spends a large amount of time playing games, they would avoid consoles like plague.

freedomfreak

Or maybe they prefer the games consoles have to offer. Jeesh, hermzits are so up in arms about their system.

Probably.

The only games that PC don't have are console exclusives. However, they should be aware that the whole game library is vastly covered by multiplats, which are superior on PC.

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#156 freedomfreak  Online
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Probably.

The only games that PC don't have is console exclusives. However, they should be aware that the whole game library is vastly covered by multiplats, which are superior on PC.

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Multiplats' performance matters little to a person that wants to go with a console because of certain games it has to offer.
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#157 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]Probably.

The only games that PC don't have is console exclusives. However, they should be aware that the whole game library is vastly covered by multiplats, which are superior on PC.

freedomfreak

Multiplats' performance matters little to a person that wants to go with a console because of certain games it has to offer.

Casuals don't care about game quality (what I mean by "game quality" is graphics and performance), after thinking about it I started to believe that they are not invested in the hobby enough to care - which is why we often see adverts on TV about consoles and their games, but not PC since PC gamers knows what's up.

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#158 freedomfreak  Online
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Cyberdot"]Probably.

The only games that PC don't have is console exclusives. However, they should be aware that the whole game library is vastly covered by multiplats, which are superior on PC.

Cyberdot

Multiplats' performance matters little to a person that wants to go with a console because of certain games it has to offer.

Casuals don't care about game quality (what I mean by "game quality" is graphics and performance), after thinking about it I started to believe that they are not invested in the hobby enough to care - which is why we often see adverts on TV about consoles and their games, but not PC since PC gamers knows what's up.

Yes. They can only be invested in their hobby if they're maxing out their games on their 1337 rights. Yeah, no. People play games to have fun. I lol at those that like to seperate themselves from the "casuals" to make them feel better about being a...gamer...
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#159 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Multiplats' performance matters little to a person that wants to go with a console because of certain games it has to offer.freedomfreak

Casuals don't care about game quality (what I mean by "game quality" is graphics and performance), after thinking about it I started to believe that they are not invested in the hobby enough to care - which is why we often see adverts on TV about consoles and their games, but not PC since PC gamers knows what's up.

Yes. They can only be invested in their hobby if they're maxing out their games on their 1337 rights. Yeah, no. People play games to have fun. I lol at those that like to seperate themselves from the "casuals" to make them feel better about being a...gamer...

:lol:

Zip it up, bro. Your denial is showing.

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#160 freedomfreak  Online
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:lol:

Zip it up, bro. Your denial is showing.

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Great answer. Classic Willz.
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#161 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]:lol:

Zip it up, bro. Your denial is showing.

freedomfreak

Great answer.

Well, I expected a better response than that.

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#162 freedomfreak  Online
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Well, I expected a better response than that.Cyberdot
No. You'd have to resort to an overused gif if I came up with something even better.
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#163 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]Well, I expected a better response than that.freedomfreak
No. You'd have to resort to an overused gif if I came up with something even better.

You should try to come up with good answers. I like decent discussion.

You nailed it. :(

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#164 freedomfreak  Online
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You should try to come up with good answers. I like decent discussion.

You nailed it. :(

Cyberdot
Bbout as much as I expected from you. That's why everyone notices it's you behind all your alts. The obvious try-hard hermit trying to get rid of his cow image. lol rofl lmao and something else. But yeah, I'm not the one that couldn't come up with any response rather than "denial fweadum :('
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#165 Cyberdot
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Yes. They can only be invested in their hobby if they're maxing out their games on their 1337 rights. Yeah, no. People play games to have fun. I lol at those that like to seperate themselves from the "casuals" to make them feel better about being a...gamer...freedomfreak

This is where you nailed a good discussion with your drivel.

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This is where you nailed a good discussion with your drivel.Cyberdot
Hey, you're the one that couldn't come up with something better than "lolz denial" So, again, good going. Looking forward to your next account.
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#167 Cyberdot
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Typical.

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#168 Sagem28
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Typical.

Cyberdot

No responses anymore ?

Can't blame you, you got owned hard :(
Poor herms. :(

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#169 freedomfreak  Online
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Typical.

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#170 Michael0134567
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Gamerwillz just being his usual dumbass self.

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#171 anshul89
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Everybody knows that PC is much more capable than consoles when it comes to everything about graphics and performance.

I was having a hard time trying to understand why consolites are torturing themselves, and then I started to believe that they simply don't care about superior gaming experience. They just want to play games and they don't even care if the games are of awful quality. Consolites are people with incredibly low standards - they are called dirty peasants for a reason.

They are also casual gamers who would play a game for 15 minutes and then switch it off - I can perfectly understand why they can tolerant low quality games, I would be the same if I was a casual gamer and there would be absolutely no reason to invest in a gaming PC. People who are invested in the hobby and spends a large amount of time playing games would avoid consoles like plague.

Cyberdot
I agree 100%. Consoles are a joke.
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#172 HaloinventedFPS
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Consoles do have 4k, in their bullshots ;)

all the beyond two souls "screenshots" are 4k, when the actual game runs at 880x720

Also no TresFX in that TR screenshot, why? its the only cool  thing about the game on PC

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#173 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Typical.

Sagem28

No responses anymore ?

Can't blame you, you got owned hard :(
Poor herms. :(

Owned?

Please do point out where I got owned.

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#174 kipsta77
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Consolites are very jelous people. Deep down, they just need a hug.

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#175 KillzoneSnake
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I got no need for 4K. 720 good for me, 1080p is perfect. I ain't gonna be gaming on a 60+ TV or game 1 feet away from it.

PC gamers mad they have no games that can pass Shadow Fall gfx, and its just a launch game... better yet, an old buggy demo of a launch game lol.

Killzone 2 still looks good www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdciOidWi4 nothing on PC like it. 91 meta critic, best online of the generation. Now i wonder how Shadow Falls online will look like....

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#176 kipsta77
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I got no need for 4K. 720 good for me, 1080p is perfect. I ain't gonna be gaming on a 60+ TV or game 1 feet away from it.

PC gamers mad they have no games that can pass Shadow Fall gfx, and its just a launch game... better yet, an old buggy demo of a launch game lol.

Killzone 2 still looks good www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdciOidWi4 nothing on PC like it. 91 meta critic, best online of the generation. Now i wonder how Shadow Falls online will look like....

KillzoneSnake

your deluding yourself.

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#177 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

What you DID say is that surely having an option is better than not having it; I explicitly disagree.

the_bi99man

Wait a minute....  WHAT? That's just beyond asinine. Come on, lowe. You know better than that.

Not at all. Let's put a number on the value of having the option, and subsequently using it. That's now x. Likewise, the value of not having the option at all; I think we're in agreement that that's zero.

That leaves us with the third case, which is what I'm interested in. What's the end result of an option that goes unused? It's the same end result as the person who doesn't have it at all. So, without a difference in end result, where is the value?

If you were a project manager, and someone wanted to add an option to the project that you were unlikely to utilize, would you approve it?

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#178 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Typical.

Cyberdot

No responses anymore ?

Can't blame you, you got owned hard :(
Poor herms. :(

Owned?

Please do point out where I got owned.

Still waiting for the answer...

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Still waiting for the answer...Cyberdot
The part where you pulled the "denial' stuff. Great response.
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#180 g0ddyX
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If anything, Poor Wii:U... at least everyone else tries.

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#181 enzyme36
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Honestly... if you spend most of your free time gaming, I would really suggest making the initial investment to get a gaming rig.  You can still play your console games too but you will eventually want to get all your multi-plats on PC.  

 

I totally understand those that say its too expensive...  I respect that and game by any means that you can... but do not say it is not worth the money.  Because despite what everyone may try to tell you, the initial cost is expensive but it is totally worth the money.

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#182 tormentos
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And here we go again Hermit hyping sh** they don't buy...

 

Go tell the majority on steam to play at 4K,since most have under power hardware vs the PS4.:lol:

The fact that GPU like the 7970 don't even have 1% penetration say it all,even less the Titan or hardware need it for 4K.

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#183 xxunnecessaryxs
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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="chunkowookie"]

Seriously. Fvcking trolls these days... Where do they get off acting like they're good enough to engage in debate with real users?

chunkowookie

whoa slow your panties there, twerp. Apparenlty over 8 years of being in gaming forums and irc chat rooms and I'm still not a real user....I'm sorry I'm not worthy to talk amongst you real users. Lol listen to yourself dumbshit. I'm sorry your friend tried to be a jerk and I returned it back to him with something that actually makes sense, which of course, although I'm new here, I've come to realize making sense is a silly thing to do here in System Wars. You want to pose as if you're so sacred, when System Wars in and of itself is a troll forum...fawk off. Sorry I'm making a bad impression but seriously...fawk you, dude

Your sig is a stupid gif about cows, with a statement including the silly fanboy labels that are only used by fanboys and trolls.

You're a troll.

Just like the majority of these boards.

Oh geez you're not a fanboy. Dude I'll be convinced Elvis isn't dead before I'm convinced anyone in SW claiming to not be a fanboy isn't full of shit
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#184 blackace
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Graphics is only 25% of a game. Do you play graphics or just stare at them. Some of the worst games on PC had the best graphics. LOL!! Enough with the "We have the better graphics then game consoles", because it's not even the most important part of a game.
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#185 enzyme36
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Graphics is only 25% of a game. Do you play graphics or just stare at them. Some of the worst games on PC had the best graphics. LOL!! Enough with the "We have the better graphics then game consoles", because it's not even the most important part of a game. blackace

 

Totally agree... a shit game is a shit game...  but all else being equal, isnt better graphics a nice perk?

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#186 Wasdie  Moderator
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That's actually not even 4k. That's all less than 4k. Still much higher than 1080p.

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#187 Wasdie  Moderator
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A little comparison I just made. You'll want to view the whole photo by opening it up in a new window.

http://i.imgur.com/oEyLcig.jpg

oEyLcig.jpg

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#188 menes777
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

What you DID say is that surely having an option is better than not having it; I explicitly disagree.

lowe0

Wait a minute....  WHAT? That's just beyond asinine. Come on, lowe. You know better than that.

Not at all. Let's put a number on the value of having the option, and subsequently using it. That's now x. Likewise, the value of not having the option at all; I think we're in agreement that that's zero.

That leaves us with the third case, which is what I'm interested in. What's the end result of an option that goes unused? It's the same end result as the person who doesn't have it at all. So, without a difference in end result, where is the value?

If you were a project manager, and someone wanted to add an option to the project that you were unlikely to utilize, would you approve it?

In other words, what good is something if you can't use it?  

Except for you are omitting that with PC the option is there whether you use it or not.  You might have to pay a buttload of cash to get it but you can eventually get it.  With consoles it doesn't matter what you do you cannot get that resolution.  You are stuck with the resolution that the console provides.  If you were to buy a 4k TV (although if you could afford that you probably could afford the PC to do it) you can not get the console to output more than 1080p (for a few games currently, but mostly 720p or lower).  You can't upgrade it, you just have to wait till the gen arrives where it is supported.

Where in the OP does it say that 4k resolution is easily accessible to everyone?  If the TC had stated that it would make your argument valid.  Else you are just in full damage control because you know good and well consoles cannot do that this gen or the next.

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#189 menes777
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A little comparison I just made. You'll want to view the whole photo by opening it up in a new window.

http://i.imgur.com/oEyLcig.jpg

oEyLcig.jpg

Wasdie

You should have provided some Kleenex and butthurt cream with this post.

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#190 FireEmblem_Man
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If I was rich, I'd by a 4K TV and hook my PC up to it

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#191 menes777
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]You'll note that I've answered your question in a previous post. If you don't like my answer, asking again will do very little to change it.lundy86_4

You edited it into a post, after the fact. Much appreciated. A seperate answer would have made this much easier.

As for your other question, you didn't say it; consumer behavior does. People buy what they perceive value in (whether that perception is externally influenced is another topic). What you DID say is that surely having an option is better than not having it; I explicitly disagree, with this being entirely dependent on whether each individual actually exercises the option in question.

lowe0

Whether they exercise the option or not, the fact that it is an availability to those that may, is an advantage. Speaking objectively, of course. Any subjective reasoning is largely irrelevant, considering we do not speak for the many. Hence why we do not include speakers/monitors in a PC setup, nor TV's in a console setup. Largely for the same reason.

LOL Lowe is once again trying the "perceived value" argument.  LOL he never changes eh? :lol:

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#192 Cyberdot
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]Still waiting for the answer...freedomfreak
The part where you pulled the "denial' stuff. Great response.

Do you think that's when I get owned?

I mean, really?

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Bullshots

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#194 Wasdie  Moderator
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Bullshots

Supabul

You don't know much about PC gaming do you?

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#195 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Supabul"]

Bullshots

Wasdie

You don't know much about PC gaming do you?

He's a troll.
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#196 menes777
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Supabul"]

Bullshots

clyde46

You don't know much about PC gaming do you?

He's a troll.

Or he doesn't understand what bullshot means. :lol:

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#197 Michael0134567
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A little comparison I just made. You'll want to view the whole photo by opening it up in a new window.

http://i.imgur.com/oEyLcig.jpg

oEyLcig.jpg

Wasdie

Damn, that PC game looks real pretty.

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#198 musicalmac  Moderator
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Higher resolution alone isn't enough to get me too thrilled. This is now especially true after some new hardware on the horizon (dat rift...). 4K resolution on a PC in itself likely won't offer anything significantly different than whatever the next gen consoles will default to. It'll be prettier and maybe look a little sharper.
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#199 freedomfreak  Online
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Cyberdot"]Still waiting for the answer...Cyberdot

The part where you pulled the "denial' stuff. Great response.

Do you think that's when I get owned?

I mean, really?

I didn't bring up ownage. It's the point where you stopped bothering with a reasonable response.
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#200 menes777
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Higher resolution alone isn't enough to get me too thrilled. This is now especially true after some new hardware on the horizon (dat rift...). 4K resolution on a PC in itself likely won't offer anything significantly different than whatever the next gen consoles will default to. It'll be prettier and maybe look a little sharper.musicalmac

Just out of curiousity, what would get you "thrilled"?