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#51 hardwenzen
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They say that the delay is related to optimizing for 9 different systems, but in reality, we all know its delayed because they can't optimize the game to run on the original Xbone at over 19fps 😊

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#52 lebanese_boy
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@davillain-: Their product managers obviously had unrealistic timelines. Such a shame that these devs had to go into crunch only for the game to be delayed again for 21 days. Makes me think they were never confident in that November release date.

I honestly don't mind those delays, but let those guys work at a healthy pace, we waited 6+ years for this game we can wait a bit more.

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#53 Epak_
Member since 2004 • 11911 Posts

Might as well come out next year, don't have a platform to play it on anyways.

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#54 lundy86_4
Member since 2003 • 61481 Posts

Just saw this lol:

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#55 SOedipus
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Is anyone really surprised?

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#56 tenaka2
Member since 2004 • 17958 Posts

I'm predicting a flop on this one, I don't think the game is working.

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#57 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 50558 Posts

@lundy86_4: Punctuation matters!

I have the trex version of those types of shirts

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#58 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@davillain- said:

I'm just gonna leave this here:

And there are 2 things you can take away from all of this:

  1. CP2077 will not be GOTY 2020 contender in any form of way. That's for damn sure and will be GOTY 2021 if it can survive.
  2. This sadly means the Crunch time wasn't needed.

Duke Nukem Forever would like a word with you lol.

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#59 Macutchi
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@lundy86_4 said:

Just saw this lol:

lol reminds me of lionel hutz's business card

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#60 lebanese_boy
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@SOedipus said:

Is anyone really surprised?

Well, yeah kinda. The game already went gold so everyone assumed it was a done deal.

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#61 BenjaminBanklin
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Probably to give people more time to get a RTX3080

You have a better chance winning the lottery twice before you can get a 3080

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#62 madrocketeer
Member since 2005 • 10589 Posts

Welp... ..."change of plans!"

And as a Warframe player, I hate "change of plans!"

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#63 Vaasman
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Probably to give people more time to get a RTX3080

They can't delay it into Summer that would just be ridiculous.

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@lebanese_boy said:

@davillain-: Their product managers obviously had unrealistic timelines. Such a shame that these devs had to go into crunch only for the game to be delayed again for 21 days. Makes me think they were never confident in that November release date.

I honestly don't mind those delays, but let those guys work at a healthy pace, we waited 6+ years for this game we can wait a bit more.

Right, this is why some companies don't give release dates until it's 1-2 months from coming out. I think the biggest problem CDPR are having is trying to get this game running on last-gen consoles at a fairly decent level. If CP2077 was PC, PS5, Xbox Series X only they would have much less issues overall. This game is pretty damn demanding on PC and yet, they are trying to get it to run on a PS4 and Xbox One.

People might point to Witcher 3 port on Switch but that game is older and they had time to work with getting it on Switch it wasn't released on Switch the same day the PC version came out.

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#65 jcrame10
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Shoulda just released it for current gen then worried about optimizing for next gen later

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#66 ocinom
Member since 2008 • 1385 Posts

AC Valhalla and Watchdogs Legion are bigger open world games. What's their dumb excuse? This game is overrated. The only good game CDPR made was Witcher 3.

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#67 NathanDrakeSwag
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I'll just wait for the next gen patch at this point.

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#68 BlackShirt20
Member since 2005 • 2631 Posts

Not a big deal. Just make it good!

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#69 lundy86_4
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@Macutchi said:

lol reminds me of lionel hutz's business card

lol, someone thought along the exact same lines as you...

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#70 PC_Rocks
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@ocinom said:

AC Valhalla and Watchdogs Legion are bigger open world games. What's their dumb excuse? This game is overrated. The only good game CDPR made was Witcher 3.

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#71 Sevenizz
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Not on my radar so no biggie here.

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#72  Edited By Zaryia
Member since 2016 • 21607 Posts

FANTASTIC NEWS!

This gives me time to get a 3080/6900xt and 5800x! Lets me play CP at 144 fps on ULTRA and UW.

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#73  Edited By Zaryia
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@ocinom said:

AC Valhalla and Watchdogs Legion are bigger open world games. What's their dumb excuse? This game is overrated. The only good game CDPR made was Witcher 3.

Size =/= Quality.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

I'll just wait for the next gen patch at this point.

No patch will make CP run/look great on PS5.

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#74 Ghost120x
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This doesn’t bother me. I’m waiting for the next gen version with all the dlc included :P

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#75 rzxv04
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@zaryia said:

FANTASTIC NEWS!

This gives me time to get a 3080/6900xt and 5800x! Lets me play CP at 144 fps on ULTRA and UW.

Are there benchmarks already? 144fps ULTRA sounds crazy on a 3080. Maybe DLSSed towards something like 2560x1080?

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#76 Willy105
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@lebanese_boy said:

@davillain-: Their product managers obviously had unrealistic timelines. Such a shame that these devs had to go into crunch only for the game to be delayed again for 21 days. Makes me think they were never confident in that November release date.

I honestly don't mind those delays, but let those guys work at a healthy pace, we waited 6+ years for this game we can wait a bit more.

Sadly, when games are delayed, crunch is simply extended for more days.

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#77 xantufrog  Moderator
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@ocinom: did you just argue that an AC or Watchdogs game should be the standard for how to do an open world game?

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#78 lebanese_boy
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@davillain-:I seriously pity the fools who will play this game on Xbox One and PS4, at this point I'm curious to see how it runs (horribly) on those consoles. I'd say ditch them but it's hard for CDPR to ignore the large install base of these platforms.

@Willy105 : Not always but in this case, certainly.

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#79 pelvist
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@ghosts4ever said:
@pelvist said:

Seven years in development, all that money from publishers, delay after delay after delay... I guess CP2077 is a scam.

because it exist. having shown gameplay, previews, release date coming.

star citizen is something that doesnot exist and will never going to release/

It exists, iv played it.

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#80 RatchetClank92
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A lot of launch games being delayed all of a sudden. Definitely not good timing for any video game company.

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#81 BlackShirt20
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@fedor: Here is my only real complaint. The whole “We are developing this across 9 systems” is a total lie. They have already said PS5, Xbox Series X|S are not getting their upgrades until March 2021.

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#82  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@BlackShirt20: yeah something weird is going on here. Not loving the vibe I'm getting on this and the seeming lack of transparency. Still really excited about the game

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#83 deactivated-5f9d77f5cef3a
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@davillain- said:

Come on gamers, it's only 21 days, (at the time of this post) not sure why everyone is so upset? Releasing a complete game is way more important than releasing a rush game.

Agree

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#84  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@lebanese_boy said:

I seriously pity the fools who will play this game on Xbox One and PS4, at this point I'm curious to see how it runs (horribly) on those consoles. I'd say ditch them but it's hard for CDPR to ignore the large install base of these platforms.

Seems kind of harsh, especially since not everyone was able to secure a pre-order online for the next gen systems. I'm still gonna go to stores and check online as much as possible, but even if I can't score one by December 10th I'm going to play it on my Xbox One X, even if that makes me a "fool". *shrugs*

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#85 Epak_
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@magnum3000 said:
@davillain- said:

Come on gamers, it's only 21 days, (at the time of this post) not sure why everyone is so upset? Releasing a complete game is way more important than releasing a rush game.

Agree

TW3 was patched to hell and back after release, it'll be the case this time too.

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#86 deactivated-5f9d77f5cef3a
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@Epak_ said:
@magnum3000 said:
@davillain- said:

Come on gamers, it's only 21 days, (at the time of this post) not sure why everyone is so upset? Releasing a complete game is way more important than releasing a rush game.

Agree

TW3 was patched to hell and back after release, it'll be the case this time too.

And a definative edition coming in a year

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#87 Epak_
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@magnum3000 said:
@Epak_ said:
@magnum3000 said:
@davillain- said:

Come on gamers, it's only 21 days, (at the time of this post) not sure why everyone is so upset? Releasing a complete game is way more important than releasing a rush game.

Agree

TW3 was patched to hell and back after release, it'll be the case this time too.

And a definative edition coming in a year

That also.

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#88 sakaiXx
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@Sushiglutton said:

I blame the Xbox Series S. Had they only had 8 versions to check they would have hit the deadline.

@fedor said:

Oof

This is a warcrime 😡!

Damn Series S strikes again.

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#89 AcidTango
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That really sucks. When they said that they went gold, I really thought that they will finally release the game on its date but I guess not.

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#90 st_monica
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@Pedro said:
@davillain- said:

I'm just gonna leave this here:

That image is objectively false. I am not sure why its still being posted as if it has any merit today.

Why don't you use your brain a little more to interpret its implications?

"A delayed game is eventually good." = Take the time to improve and complete the game.

”A bad game is bad forever.” = Don't rush to make incomplete games.

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#91  Edited By deactivated-611a8cd6e3c93
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@st_monica said:
@Pedro said:
@davillain- said:

I'm just gonna leave this here:

That image is objectively false. I am not sure why its still being posted as if it has any merit today.

Why don't you use your brain a little more to interpret its implications?

"A delayed game is eventually good." = Take the time to improve and complete the game.

”A bad game is bad forever.” = Don't rush to make incomplete games.

"A delayed game is eventually good"

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#92 st_monica
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@WESTBLADE85:

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#93 deactivated-611a8cd6e3c93
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@st_monica said:

@WESTBLADE85:

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@lebanese_boy said:

I seriously pity the fools who will play this game on Xbox One and PS4, at this point I'm curious to see how it runs (horribly) on those consoles. I'd say ditch them but it's hard for CDPR to ignore the large install base of these platforms.

I pity anyone who plays it period.

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#95 deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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Pretty disappointing but 21 days is nothing and if it means less bugs then so be it. At least now there will be more time for Legion and Vahalia.

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#96 st_monica
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@WESTBLADE85: The video shows both Miyamoto's right and wrong decisions. For example, canceling a bad game like Star Fox 2 and switching to Star Fox 64 was the right decision. It was also a right decision that Nintendo did not invest deeply in a mediocre company like Argonaut. It was painful for Nintendo to lose GTA, but if Nintendo had focused on games that required such high specs, a big success console like the Wii wouldn't have been developed. The overall revenue Nintendo has earned from the Wii far exceeds that of any AAA games at that time.

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#97 Maroxad
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Now we know for a fact it wont be in the running for GOTY 2020. Missed that train. GOTY 2021 maybe?

I also wonder now, was the crunch even necessary?

I probably wont buy it until a few years down the road anyways.

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#98 deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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@Maroxad said:

I also wonder now, was the crunch even necessary?

What do you mean? If they didn't crunch they would be even further behind.

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#99 DaVillain  Moderator
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@i_p_daily: @WESTBLADE85: Anyone who says DNF just needs to stop. DNF went through different developers back in the day and had to face a lawsuit but that game was never given a release date, it remine untouched until Gearbox got the blueprint and release the game as it was left by previous developers. DNF was meant to be on Xbox & PS2, it was never design for Xbox 360/PS3 which is why the game ran like crap. That said, this doesn't apply to Miyamoto's quote.

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#100  Edited By deactivated-611a8cd6e3c93
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@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: @WESTBLADE85: Anyone who says DNF just needs to stop. DNF went through different developers back in the day and had to face a lawsuit but that game was never given a release date, it remine untouched until Gearbox got the blueprint and release the game as it was left by previous developers. DNF was meant to be on Xbox & PS2, it was never design for Xbox 360/PS3 which is why the game ran like crap. That said, this doesn't apply to Miyamoto's quote.

I doubt you were even born "back in the day" or you are just talking outta your ass, since Duke Nukem Forever was officially announced in 1997, was originally using id's Quake engine and was supposed to release in '98. No word on any console release back then, let alone a console that literally did not even exist yet (Xbox).