Nintendomination continuation. I have a sneaking suspicion that Gamespot did this just to piss everyone off that thought trash like GTAV deserved the award.
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Nintendomination continuation. I have a sneaking suspicion that Gamespot did this just to piss everyone off that thought trash like GTAV deserved the award.
I don't see why the fuss about a handheld game winning. Last year, it was Journey and the cows couldn't be more ecstatic.He He.
Damn, this is a surprise, but it's a cool one. There were a ton of worthy games this year, though. All of the nominees could have walked away with it. The Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTA V, Gone Home, Tomb Raider, and a ton more. One of the best years this gen, up there with 2010 (The GOAT) and 2007.
I guess I have to play ALBW now.
You have to play it now because it won GOTY? I guess I see what you mean. Before, you didn't have as much interest, but since it garnered high praise from GS staff, it caught your attention?
lol I was wondering the same thing. I guess some people like to be led while others like to lead.
Good lord it's just gaming.
You fuckers are serious.
Yes, I was dead serious when I asked him the question. I like to understand people better. I'ma serious fucker, lol.
I take it back. The gamespot comment section is only funny, the Neogaf comments about Gamespots GOTy is breathtaking
The problem with Zelda winning GOTY is it doesn't provide any social commentary.
Nintendo's entire philosophy is to create games that temporarily draw you away from reality. Games that are essentially created in a vacuum. That's a perfectly fine sort of game to enjoy, and it's possibly why their franchises have aged so well, but they're so abstract nothing can really be gleaned from them.
There's no incite. The player isn't changed by the experience. You turn the game off and move on with your life. You won't hop on the subway and see an elf. You
will
see GTA 5's Trevor, but you won't understand him.
If in 50 years someone want's to get a feel for what gaming (and life) in 2013 was like, is Zelda really the best example?
I think very, very few games can do that well.
At their best Nintendo games create memorable experiences that you think about even when you're not playing the game. That's why they're able to utilize nostalgia later on -- because their games give players great memories.
Insightful? Rarely. But not something you necessarily "turn off and move on with your life," either.
(Personally, If I want to be changed I'll turn to a book or good film.)
These are all very, very valid points. And it's actually the one beef I had with A Link Between Worlds: Its story said absolutely nothing, and just retreaded well-worn ground with a new coat of paint (in more ways than one, I guess). Its characters aren't really changed by anything, the shape of the narrative is still exactly the same despite the shake-up of the game's formula, and just when it borders the line of "clever" with its dialogue, it goes right back to the dependable cliches. But speaking to its gameplay, it's by far the best Zelda game in years -- probably since Wind Waker. And I think that, because of how engrossing that element of the game is (that "escape from reality"), it makes up for all of the above complaints. Because at the end of the day, even when I think about what made Ocarina of Time so magical for me, it was that sense of freedom and adventure that was guided *just enough* by a story to make me feel at home in a whole 'nother world.
Zelda definitely doesn't have the same cultural impact as something like GTA, but then again, it really doesn't need to. Or at least not right now.
Good lord it's just gaming.
You fuckers are serious.
Yes, I was dead serious when I asked him the question. I like to understand people better. I'ma serious fucker, lol.
Didn't mean to keep you in the quote.
LOL Gotta feel bad for how irrelevant Gamecrap's opinion has become.
And yet here you are...in their forums. Giving them hits and thus giving them revenue from said hits.
They are so irrelevant you showed up to talk about their GOTY choice.
Looks like they're the ones laughing to the bank buddy.
Treme kind of sucks ass.
I love this post.
LOL Gotta feel bad for how irrelevant Gamecrap's opinion has become.
I like to call them beatnik nonconformists.
SO GLAD GTAV isn't taking home game of the year on most sites. The initial AWE wears off rather quickly and then the trudge of the games lame missions set in. Once again gamespot puts gameplay above anything else for their GOTY.
Way to go gamespot! Excellent choice!!!
Handheld for game of the year. Way to dodge a bullet GS. Controversial as always.
A very nostalgic SNES game.
To the delight of Nintendo, by no way does this mean Wii U has won anything.
As for handhelds, theres been some others 9/10 ie Guacamelee, Rayman Legends, but not exclusive.
If GS had an ongoing mobile review section, then handhelds war here would be something else.
Device 6 92/100
Asphalt 8 91/100
Ridiculous Fishing 93/100
XCOM enemy unknown 91/100
Zelda ALBW 90/100 on Metacritic.
Credit to the 3DS for sticking it out throughout the Tablet, Smartphone domination.
My two cents.
GTAV, TLOU, Bioshock, AC4, Tomb Raider are still raking it in everywhere.
Well I will say this: ALBW >>>> GTAV.
So yeah ALBW is the best Zelda game since Majoras Mask. Why? Because 2D Zelda>3D Zelda and I love the rental and wall merging mechanics. Plus you can go any order. Although SS has the better dungeons, ALBW has the better ideas. Only issue I have is that the regular overworld being too similar (Lorule is awesome).
Anyways I beat all the dungeons but I haven't finished the game yet. Plus I still have to try some of the mini games and get more heart container pieces.
Ice Ruins is my favorite dungeon in the game.
Anyways I will try out the other nominees this month and next month. I just ordered TLOU so I'm looking forward to it.
SO GLAD GTAV isn't taking home game of the year on most sites. The initial AWE wears off rather quickly and then the trudge of the games lame missions set in. Once again gamespot puts gameplay above anything else for their GOTY.
Way to go gamespot! Excellent choice!!!
I'm assuming The Last of Us is sweeping it most everywhere else. Or am I wrong?
I take it back. The gamespot comment section is only funny, the Neogaf comments about Gamespots GOTy is breathtaking
The problem with Zelda winning GOTY is it doesn't provide any social commentary.
Nintendo's entire philosophy is to create games that temporarily draw you away from reality. Games that are essentially created in a vacuum. That's a perfectly fine sort of game to enjoy, and it's possibly why their franchises have aged so well, but they're so abstract nothing can really be gleaned from them.
There's no incite. The player isn't changed by the experience. You turn the game off and move on with your life. You won't hop on the subway and see an elf. You
will
see GTA 5's Trevor, but you won't understand him.
If in 50 years someone want's to get a feel for what gaming (and life) in 2013 was like, is Zelda really the best example?
lol you should read the youtube comments.
SO GLAD GTAV isn't taking home game of the year on most sites. The initial AWE wears off rather quickly and then the trudge of the games lame missions set in. Once again gamespot puts gameplay above anything else for their GOTY.
Way to go gamespot! Excellent choice!!!
I'm assuming The Last of Us is sweeping it most everywhere else. Or am I wrong?
GTA5 and TLOU are winning thee majority of the awards. Its like 50% TLOU, 40% GTA5 and 10% everything else.
@AtariKidX: How many GOTY titles won with the Vita?
lawl can you imagine if a Vita title like Tearaway won GS GOTY? The cows would be going all ape shit against Nintendo and sheep, and annoying the **** out of everybody for months to come.
Damn, this is a surprise, but it's a cool one. There were a ton of worthy games this year, though. All of the nominees could have walked away with it. The Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTA V, Gone Home, Tomb Raider, and a ton more. One of the best years this gen, up there with 2010 (The GOAT) and 2007.
I guess I have to play ALBW now.
You have to play it now because it won GOTY? I guess I see what you mean. Before, you didn't have as much interest, but since it garnered high praise from GS staff, it caught your attention?
lol I was wondering the same thing. I guess some people like to be led while others like to lead.
There nothing wrong with playing a game because it's getting awards. That normally a good reason to go play a game or watch a movie. It lets you know that there is a movie or a game you have not played that you might like.
I'm kind of sad GOTY wasn't won by pretentious writing, mediocre gameplay mechanics and an attempt to push the median forward. Its this sort of initiative that makes the fact that I don't read reviews look ridiculous :( But in all honesty, Gamespot for the last few years has generally not picked the over all popular flavour of the year games as GOTY (well Journey is arguable). So while this should be surprising to me, I guess it isn't. 2D Zelda are some of my favs so I'm excited to play this. Also pretty pumped to start TLOU (today's the day)
Journey was wonderful.
There nothing wrong with playing a game because it's getting awards. That normally a good reason to go play a game or watch a movie. It lets you know that there is a movie or a game you have not played that you might like.
It's fine if it's for the right reasons, but suddenly liking something solely because other anonymous people's opinions isn't one of them.
I'm kind of sad GOTY wasn't won by pretentious writing, mediocre gameplay mechanics and an attempt to push the median forward. Its this sort of initiative that makes the fact that I don't read reviews look ridiculous :( But in all honesty, Gamespot for the last few years has generally not picked the over all popular flavour of the year games as GOTY (well Journey is arguable). So while this should be surprising to me, I guess it isn't. 2D Zelda are some of my favs so I'm excited to play this. Also pretty pumped to start TLOU (today's the day)
Journey was wonderful.
Wasn't my GOTY but I certainly agree with you. That said, you were here last year when it won and people were calling it the artsy flavour of year game. Meh, I wasn't convinced it would be any good til I played it. Very solid game was fantastic art direction. Also one of those games that knew not to overstay its welcome (which I prefer).
I'm kind of sad GOTY wasn't won by pretentious writing, mediocre gameplay mechanics and an attempt to push the median forward. Its this sort of initiative that makes the fact that I don't read reviews look ridiculous :( But in all honesty, Gamespot for the last few years has generally not picked the over all popular flavour of the year games as GOTY (well Journey is arguable). So while this should be surprising to me, I guess it isn't. 2D Zelda are some of my favs so I'm excited to play this. Also pretty pumped to start TLOU (today's the day)
Journey was wonderful.
Wasn't my GOTY but I certainly agree with you. That said, you were here last year when it won and people were calling it the artsy flavour of year game. Meh, I wasn't convinced it would be any good til I played it. Very solid game was fantastic art direction. Also one of those games that knew not to overstay its welcome (which I prefer).
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
Treme kind of sucks ass.
Eh, it wasn't like it was The Sopranos ending or something. I don't know, it's not great, but what are you gonna do. It's not like dude went from making Six Feet Under to True Blood.
Did you see the Boardwalk Empire season this year? Season was sooo good.
I'm kind of sad GOTY wasn't won by pretentious writing, mediocre gameplay mechanics and an attempt to push the median forward. Its this sort of initiative that makes the fact that I don't read reviews look ridiculous :( But in all honesty, Gamespot for the last few years has generally not picked the over all popular flavour of the year games as GOTY (well Journey is arguable). So while this should be surprising to me, I guess it isn't. 2D Zelda are some of my favs so I'm excited to play this. Also pretty pumped to start TLOU (today's the day)
Journey was wonderful.
Wasn't my GOTY but I certainly agree with you. That said, you were here last year when it won and people were calling it the artsy flavour of year game. Meh, I wasn't convinced it would be any good til I played it. Very solid game was fantastic art direction. Also one of those games that knew not to overstay its welcome (which I prefer).
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
I'm kind of sad GOTY wasn't won by pretentious writing, mediocre gameplay mechanics and an attempt to push the median forward. Its this sort of initiative that makes the fact that I don't read reviews look ridiculous :( But in all honesty, Gamespot for the last few years has generally not picked the over all popular flavour of the year games as GOTY (well Journey is arguable). So while this should be surprising to me, I guess it isn't. 2D Zelda are some of my favs so I'm excited to play this. Also pretty pumped to start TLOU (today's the day)
Journey was wonderful.
Wasn't my GOTY but I certainly agree with you. That said, you were here last year when it won and people were calling it the artsy flavour of year game. Meh, I wasn't convinced it would be any good til I played it. Very solid game was fantastic art direction. Also one of those games that knew not to overstay its welcome (which I prefer).
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
Truth.
Cows are so salty because The Last of Us didn't win. They thought it could pull off the upset, even with dat 8.0. And then McShea crushed their hopes and dreams, like he always does.
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
Fair enough about Journey
Also agreed about SW, its just a massive culmination of people being pissed about someone else's opinion. Any how, I'm just happy a handheld game can be GOTY. I like that gaming (at least on GS) is getting to the point where a good game can be recognized simply because its a good game. (not that winning GOTY is the only way to be recognized)
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
Fair enough about Journey
Also agreed about SW, its just a massive culmination of people being pissed about someone else's opinion. Any how, I'm just happy a handheld game can be GOTY. I like that gaming (at least on GS) is getting to the point where a good game can be recognized simply because its a good game. (not that winning GOTY is the only way to be recognized)
Yeah I don't know about that. Handhelds are still slums
It's one of the few artsy games that gets it right. I disagree with its place as flavor of the year. I can easily go back to that game at anytime.
Regardless this forum loves crying about someone having a different opinion.
Fair enough about Journey
Also agreed about SW, its just a massive culmination of people being pissed about someone else's opinion. Any how, I'm just happy a handheld game can be GOTY. I like that gaming (at least on GS) is getting to the point where a good game can be recognized simply because its a good game. (not that winning GOTY is the only way to be recognized)
Yeah I don't know about that. Handhelds are still slums
I never really understood why you dislike handhelds so much. I mean, I personally like consoles more for certain genre but handhelds have had great games for such a long time.
I'm just going to put this here
GOTY awards on a site like this don't have any weight whatsoever for two reasons
-The people that choose the winner haven't even played all they games THEY wanted to let alone any games that might pleasantly surprise them. How can a game of the year be awarded if the deciders haven't even played all the possible candidates.
-Your opinion is the only one that matters. Why should you care what a random group of people think is the best? It means nothing
Having said that, A Link Between Worlds is a fantastic game and worthy of praise. Platform should never matter when deciding what game you enjoyed the most. That's completely irrelevant.
I'm just going to put this here
GOTY awards on a site like this don't have any weight whatsoever for two reasons
-The people that choose the winner haven't even played all they games THEY wanted to let alone any games that might pleasantly surprise them. How can a game of the year be awarded if the deciders haven't even played all the possible candidates.
-Your opinion is the only one that matters. Why should you care what a random group of people think is the best? It means nothing
Having said that, A Link Between Worlds is a fantastic game and worthy of praise. Platform should never matter when deciding what game you enjoyed the most. That's completely irrelevant.
You think this is different for any other site? Of course all the people picking GOTY haven't played every single possible nominee. They all have lives outside of video games and many of these titles are long as hell and many are in genres they don't like. Its just a reality that they won't play all the candidates individually? Who cares? The point is they came together as a collective and tried to make a group decision.
You're telling us what each and every person already knows. This is all for SW shits and giggles. No one is using GS opinion to now define what they think is the best. I dunno why people constantly feel like they need to say this. Its obvious, its always been obvious :|
The year of the 3DS.
Flawless victory. A handheld game showed all the other games what true game design is.
Based Nintendo. Please make the Wii U Zelda like this one.
Lol, what is True game design char?
Because last time I checked you're not a game developer.
I wanted to comment on this as well. What is true game design? I'm sure it's char's personal perspective that Nintendo delivers true games design, but I can't put my finger on what that is exactly. Saying they create some of the most 'incredible' or 'amazing' game design would fit better maybe? He IS a game player and has enjoyed so many games in his life, so that gives him personal understanding of what true design is I suppose.
Anyways, Nintendo had one of their best years this year concerning games. They've showered the handheld scene with some incredible stuff (the Wii U, too!).
They absolutely created an amazing game and I am in no way denying that. Also Nintendo makes really solid games.
But sitting here calling it "True Game Design" is kinda stupid. ALBTW is an awesome zelda games, they do enough to shake it up with the equipment and dungeons. But It's just Legend of Zelda with rental equipment and do a dungeon in any order. But aside from everything else this year it's not my PERSONAL GOTY but it does deserve it.
As far as i'm concerned there's nothing that exist that's "True Game Design" games are made for all types of people and things. Are there core mechanics to game design styles? Absolutely.
Sorry, poor word choice on my part. I meant pure game design. As in unadulterated game design not bogged down by any tangential concerns. Just a focus on game mechanics, interactivity, level design, and player agency. I think A Link Between Worlds exemplified that approach and showed how ultimately, if a game is accomplished in those key areas, nothing else matters.
Of course, this is my opinion, and both of you are free to disagree.
@charizard1605: and the world shall know harmony once again.... There can only be one title given to a sequel to the game of all time and it starts with GOTY.... big win Char.... Congrats to us.
You should really have an early Christmas :P
The year of the 3DS.
Flawless victory. A handheld game showed all the other games what true game design is.
Based Nintendo. Please make the Wii U Zelda like this one.
Lol, what is True game design char?
Because last time I checked you're not a game developer.
I wanted to comment on this as well. What is true game design? I'm sure it's char's personal perspective that Nintendo delivers true games design, but I can't put my finger on what that is exactly. Saying they create some of the most 'incredible' or 'amazing' game design would fit better maybe? He IS a game player and has enjoyed so many games in his life, so that gives him personal understanding of what true design is I suppose.
Anyways, Nintendo had one of their best years this year concerning games. They've showered the handheld scene with some incredible stuff (the Wii U, too!).
They absolutely created an amazing game and I am in no way denying that. Also Nintendo makes really solid games.
But sitting here calling it "True Game Design" is kinda stupid. ALBTW is an awesome zelda games, they do enough to shake it up with the equipment and dungeons. But It's just Legend of Zelda with rental equipment and do a dungeon in any order. But aside from everything else this year it's not my PERSONAL GOTY but it does deserve it.
As far as i'm concerned there's nothing that exist that's "True Game Design" games are made for all types of people and things. Are there core mechanics to game design styles? Absolutely.
Sorry, poor word choice on my part. I meant pure game design. As in unadulterated game design not bogged down by any tangential concerns. Just a focus on game mechanics, interactivity, level design, and player agency. I think A Link Between Worlds exemplified that approach and showed how ultimately, if a game is accomplished in those key areas, nothing else matters.
Of course, this is my opinion, and both of you are free to disagree.
There we go, that's what I was looking for. There you are right.
.....Ok
I can't say I agree that a game like this is more deserving than GTA V (a game that does everything and does it all incredibly well) but whatever.
Maybe one day I'll decide its a worthwhile purchase for my 3DS.
It's the best game on the 3DS, the best handheld game ever made, the best Zelda game in 20 years, and the best game of this year. Honestly, I don't know what other recommendation you want.
Yo, this is nonsense.
Ocarina of Time is better. So are Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask.
Not really: A Link Between Worlds does everything I want from a Zelda game best. But like I said, everyone seems to want different things from Zelda games, so your mileage may vary xD
I'm just going to put this here
GOTY awards on a site like this don't have any weight whatsoever for two reasons
-The people that choose the winner haven't even played all they games THEY wanted to let alone any games that might pleasantly surprise them. How can a game of the year be awarded if the deciders haven't even played all the possible candidates.
-Your opinion is the only one that matters. Why should you care what a random group of people think is the best? It means nothing
Having said that, A Link Between Worlds is a fantastic game and worthy of praise. Platform should never matter when deciding what game you enjoyed the most. That's completely irrelevant.
You think this is different for any other site? Of course all the people picking GOTY haven't played every single possible nominee. They all have lives outside of video games and many of these titles are long as hell and many are in genres they don't like. Its just a reality that they won't play all the candidates individually? Who cares? The point is they came together as a collective and tried to make a group decision.
You're telling us what each and every person already knows. This is all for SW shits and giggles. No one is using GS opinion to now define what they think is the best. I dunno why people constantly feel like they need to say this. Its obvious, its always been obvious :|
Yeah I'm aware it isn't just this site. That's why I said a site like this one. I just don't get why most entertainment awards are worth much to anybody when, as far as I can tell, they mean nothing.
It seems like a lot of people don't know this and are taking it too seriously. That's why I posted what I did. People need to calm down. A Link Between Worlds won... So what? It's no big deal
The year of the 3DS.
Flawless victory. A handheld game showed all the other games what true game design is.
Based Nintendo. Please make the Wii U Zelda like this one.
Lol, what is True game design char?
Because last time I checked you're not a game developer.
I wanted to comment on this as well. What is true game design? I'm sure it's char's personal perspective that Nintendo delivers true games design, but I can't put my finger on what that is exactly. Saying they create some of the most 'incredible' or 'amazing' game design would fit better maybe? He IS a game player and has enjoyed so many games in his life, so that gives him personal understanding of what true design is I suppose.
Anyways, Nintendo had one of their best years this year concerning games. They've showered the handheld scene with some incredible stuff (the Wii U, too!).
They absolutely created an amazing game and I am in no way denying that. Also Nintendo makes really solid games.
But sitting here calling it "True Game Design" is kinda stupid. ALBTW is an awesome zelda games, they do enough to shake it up with the equipment and dungeons. But It's just Legend of Zelda with rental equipment and do a dungeon in any order. But aside from everything else this year it's not my PERSONAL GOTY but it does deserve it.
As far as i'm concerned there's nothing that exist that's "True Game Design" games are made for all types of people and things. Are there core mechanics to game design styles? Absolutely.
Sorry, poor word choice on my part. I meant pure game design. As in unadulterated game design not bogged down by any tangential concerns. Just a focus on game mechanics, interactivity, level design, and player agency. I think A Link Between Worlds exemplified that approach and showed how ultimately, if a game is accomplished in those key areas, nothing else matters.
Of course, this is my opinion, and both of you are free to disagree.
There we go, that's what I was looking for. There you are right.
Haha, I got carried away in my excitement :P
I sent you a friend request on Wii U brah, accept it when you get the chance.
The year of the 3DS.
Flawless victory. A handheld game showed all the other games what true game design is.
Based Nintendo. Please make the Wii U Zelda like this one.
Lol, what is True game design char?
Because last time I checked you're not a game developer.
I wanted to comment on this as well. What is true game design? I'm sure it's char's personal perspective that Nintendo delivers true games design, but I can't put my finger on what that is exactly. Saying they create some of the most 'incredible' or 'amazing' game design would fit better maybe? He IS a game player and has enjoyed so many games in his life, so that gives him personal understanding of what true design is I suppose.
Anyways, Nintendo had one of their best years this year concerning games. They've showered the handheld scene with some incredible stuff (the Wii U, too!).
They absolutely created an amazing game and I am in no way denying that. Also Nintendo makes really solid games.
But sitting here calling it "True Game Design" is kinda stupid. ALBTW is an awesome zelda games, they do enough to shake it up with the equipment and dungeons. But It's just Legend of Zelda with rental equipment and do a dungeon in any order. But aside from everything else this year it's not my PERSONAL GOTY but it does deserve it.
As far as i'm concerned there's nothing that exist that's "True Game Design" games are made for all types of people and things. Are there core mechanics to game design styles? Absolutely.
Sorry, poor word choice on my part. I meant pure game design. As in unadulterated game design not bogged down by any tangential concerns. Just a focus on game mechanics, interactivity, level design, and player agency. I think A Link Between Worlds exemplified that approach and showed how ultimately, if a game is accomplished in those key areas, nothing else matters.
Of course, this is my opinion, and both of you are free to disagree.
There we go, that's what I was looking for. There you are right.
Haha, I got carried away in my excitement :P
I sent you a friend request on Wii U brah, accept it when you get the chance.
Don't do it AM, don't taint your friends list with this pleb.
1. Gamespot has consistently given GOTY based on gameplay, not narrative or characters. Last of Us had no real chance.
2. Gamespot has consistently given GOTY to something original as opposed to a game that is well executed. Obviously the changes within GTA5, Bioshock Infinite, Arkham Origins, and AC4 weren't enough. I can see that.
Bottom line is that Gamespot likes to make a statement with their GOTY. Journey comes to mind. This is the site that correctly gave GOTY to Demons Souls instead of Uncharted 2 (unlike a lot of sites)
I didn't expect ALBW to win, but I'm liking the choice more and more. It's the only game I played this year that I played all the way through twice and would replay again.
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