NPD July 2015: PS4 - 218K, XBO - 188K, WiiU - 46K

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@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

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@misterpmedia: Wow, Nintendo did great as well. Splatoon truly is a beast. Hopefully this compels Nintendo to invest in more new IP.

Let's hope so.

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#253 Heil68
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Hail to the KING baby...PS4 is on a ROLL guys.

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@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

So with 17k gap a month means , that it will be outsold by a clear mill in...1 year and 4 months?

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@Ant_17 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

So with 17k gap a month means , that it will be outsold by a clear mill in...1 year and 4 months?

Lets see what happens when it has an official price drop. I bet that month it outsells the bone by 100k

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@TigerSuperman said:
@Zero_epyon said:

\Sony typically wins the month when Amazon's best sellers shows such a wide gap.\

No. 2 months already break this theory, Amazon is not accurate for hardware.

Instead in contrast to last month Xbox one is winning closing out july in the following:

Gamestop: http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=28-xu0,1343-4f 3 Xbox one SKu's in the front (the third was added several days ago, so that would mean the lead increased even more) May be wondering why I didn't say for, that's because the Madden bundles are pre-orders.

Wal-mart: http://www.walmart.com/browse/video-games/consoles/2636_1040580

Before saying anything realize that last month, while there was some switching, PS4 closed the month, and had been in longer, however Xbox one has been leading for awhile and is closing with the win. Also remember how much an impact Gamestop can have. Gamestop alone is over 50% of console sales. (I heard 60% in some places as well) so having a 3 Sku lead is unprecedented, and it's the first time its ever happened. Ever, in gamestop chart history.

With the Walmart included in that it's basically the majority of the market. Now the reason why I am pushing GS is because of it's amazing marketshare in console sales. Remember april, as that was the last time before now, Xbox also closed with a win. Before that it was Nov/December 2014, and December 2013.

If anything GS is a much more reliable indicator than Amazon. A small deal on GS could make up for a beat down at say, Bestbuy or sears (when it still sold games) because of just how much of the market is controlled by GS.

Since everytime Xbox closed with a win in GS resulted in winning that months NPD, i think it's safe to say the same will happen again, and since the fresh momentum (this is the first of august) has not dried, and the 3 Sku's are still there, I'm expecting this month also to go to Xbox One, especially when adding Gears and Madden bundles.

Walmart just adds more on top of the cake. That is around 70% of the retail sales market with Xbox having a closing win.

Now again, a reminder, that every time GS had closed a month with xbox winning it won. everytime. GS power should not be ignored as "lol" either as that's why Xbox One won april, PS4 probably had a sizable lead, but even with a small deal, GS can change the tables, like in April, because of it's very large marketshare amount retailers for console sales.

do you run vgchartz or something?

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#257 jsmoke03
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@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

thats not as big a gap as i thought it would be considering how ms has lost soo many months. them holidays can make or break you i guess.

with that said, cows must be sweating the holiday npds...

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#258 Dire_Weasel
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Just as an FYI, GAF July NPD sales threads puts July PS4 sales at 218k, not 205k, and the current gap at 800k.

Not a big deal, just thought I would put that out there.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=175363230#post175363230

Also, wow this is a dead thread. :)

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#259 Zero_epyon
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@Dire_Weasel said:

Just as an FYI, GAF July NPD sales threads puts July PS4 sales at 218k, not 205k, and the current gap at 800k.

Not a big deal, just thought I would put that out there.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=175363230#post175363230

Also, wow this is a dead thread. :)

Thanks for the info. I'll update the thread for those who still care lol.

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#260 Zero_epyon
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@xxgunslingerxx said:
@Ant_17 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

So with 17k gap a month means , that it will be outsold by a clear mill in...1 year and 4 months?

Lets see what happens when it has an official price drop. I bet that month it outsells the bone by 100k

New info cam in and the gap is about 30K instead of 17K.

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#261 Ant_17
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@Zero_epyon said:
@xxgunslingerxx said:
@Ant_17 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

So with 17k gap a month means , that it will be outsold by a clear mill in...1 year and 4 months?

Lets see what happens when it has an official price drop. I bet that month it outsells the bone by 100k

New info cam in and the gap is about 30K instead of 17K.

Some win.

The Xbone triped over and broke it's nose , and gets KO in a minute.

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@Ant_17 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@xxgunslingerxx said:
@Ant_17 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Sales Gap is about 17-18K with PS4 selling about 205K and Xbox about 187k.

Anyone know what the gap is between the two so far?

think I remember seeing someone say it was like 800K now

So with 17k gap a month means , that it will be outsold by a clear mill in...1 year and 4 months?

Lets see what happens when it has an official price drop. I bet that month it outsells the bone by 100k

New info cam in and the gap is about 30K instead of 17K.

Some win.

The Xbone triped over and broke it's nose , and gets KO in a minute.

I know somewhere Tiger is trying to convince someone that this was a win for MS and the gap is shrinking...

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@Zero_epyon said:

I know somewhere Tiger is trying to convince someone that this was a win for MS and the gap is shrinking...

If you look at the numbers hard enought , they will change , and show the true numbers , which are - Xbone 150k , PS4 2k.

Or you will go cross eyed.

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@Ant_17 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

I know somewhere Tiger is trying to convince someone that this was a win for MS and the gap is shrinking...

If you look at the numbers hard enought , they will change , and show the true numbers , which are - Xbone 150k , PS4 2k.

Or you will go cross eyed.

Haha

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#265  Edited By Zero_epyon
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This was posted at GAF:

Edit: NVM Old News...

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@Zero_epyon said:

This was posted at GAF:

Edit: NVM Old News...

yup so it is 800K then.

Interesting times ahead!

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#267 2mrw
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This is a very small difference, I thought the difference was in the 2 million range.

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WiiU numbers are sad

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@2mrw said:

This is a very small difference, I thought the difference was in the 2 million range.

That might be the WW sales difference.

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@Ant_17 said:
@2mrw said:

This is a very small difference, I thought the difference was in the 2 million range.

That might be the WW sales difference.

The PS4 is like 10 million units ahead of the X1.

If the US gap is 800,000, then the worldwide gap should be about 9.2 million

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#271 GrenadeLauncher
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I remember when NPD threads were fun.

Lems, why did you have to go so stale? You're nearly as bad as your games library.

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Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

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uhh.. why is this dead?

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So, I guess Tiger really was the only reason anyone posted in these threads

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@jhcho2 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@2mrw said:

This is a very small difference, I thought the difference was in the 2 million range.

That might be the WW sales difference.

The PS4 is like 10 million units ahead of the X1.

If the US gap is 800,000, then the worldwide gap should be about 9.2 million

I mean for this months' gap , not the total gap.

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@svaubel said:

Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

NPD threads are a regular occurrence. Quit being salty.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@svaubel said:

Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

NPD threads are a regular occurrence. Quit being salty.

Yeah....that doesn't mean they are interesting. Arguing about sales. wow.

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#278  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Lol, the Wii Beg U didn't even reach 50K!

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#279 B_rich84
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Good for Sony and Microsoft. The gaming world is healthy when multiple systems are selling well (even tho I skipped the X1).

Man I hate it for Nintendo. I own a Wii U and got a ton of fun out of it but I'm getting close to selling off my system and I'm tempted to not even wait for Xenoblade. I believe it'll just come out on the NX as well since Xenoblade is one of the last games coming out on the system probably.

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#280  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@svaubel said:

Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

NPD threads are a regular occurrence. Quit being salty.

Yeah....that doesn't mean they are interesting. Arguing about sales. wow.

Well they're not anymore since lems stopped caring about sales.

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#281 KingsTableWar
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Uh oh, at 800k, the Sony needs only 300k to reach the gap of last year. This means that September and October must be won by Xbox or to lose with strong enough sales to prevent a 1.1 million lead.

If Sir Xbox cannot stop The Sony from reaching the previous years gap the war is over! Xbox ay possibly close the gap, or not, either way, if the gap is at the same level that would mean the PS4 sales are not wanning and that sir Xbox One will not be able to ever close the game. Phil Spencer will quit in shame as he jumps the Assassin's creed leap of fait into a pile of cow cake with needles in it. Tantalizing.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@svaubel said:

Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

NPD threads are a regular occurrence. Quit being salty.

Yeah....that doesn't mean they are interesting. Arguing about sales. wow.

It's obviously interesting to some people.

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@Chutebox said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@svaubel said:

Oh yay... more threads going on about sales numbers. Guess the summer game drought is so bad there is nothing else to talk about.

NPD threads are a regular occurrence. Quit being salty.

Yeah....that doesn't mean they are interesting. Arguing about sales. wow.

It's obviously interesting to some people.

It is very interesting, the sales will determine if their will be an Xbox next gen or if there will only be Playstation and Razer Ouya.

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PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

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@AtariKidX said:

PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

So is the Vita

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@AtariKidX said:

PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

So is the Vita

At least Sony put up a tombstone.

Nintendo are leaving the Wiiu on the street.

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@Ant_17 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@AtariKidX said:

PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

So is the Vita

At least Sony put up a tombstone.

Nintendo are leaving the Wiiu on the street.

Sony tried harder with the Vita than Nintendo did with the WiiU

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@AgentA-Mi6: Naah, NYaDC, Salt_the_Fries ect. there are plenty of lems left just a delusional and blind as tiger, they just spend all their time trying to nitpick at Sony and PS4 rather than trying to prove xbox1 is doing better as a system.

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@strobelitebunny said:

I don't understand, did God of War Remaster not sell?

Hello Tiger, we knew you couldn't stay away, now you need to give us a full breakdown of why your prediction, once again, failed.

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@playharderfool said:

@AgentA-Mi6: Naah, NYaDC, Salt_the_Fries ect. there are plenty of lems left just a delusional and blind as tiger, they just spend all their time trying to nitpick at Sony and PS4 rather than trying to prove xbox1 is doing better as a system.

It's just so glorious, the PS3 turned it around and as such it will be remembered. The Xbone on the other hand, will not.

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@AgentA-Mi6 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@AtariKidX said:

PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

So is the Vita

At least Sony put up a tombstone.

Nintendo are leaving the Wiiu on the street.

Sony tried harder with the Vita than Nintendo did with the WiiU

Huh? What? No, not at all :/

Nintendo continued to push out high quality first party games for the Wii U even when it was clear the system was dead. Sony tried for a grand total of one year (a year in which they missed no chance to sabotage themselves, I might add), and then called it quits.

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The September Destiny bundle will put another 300k between the two consoles for a total of about 1.2 million in favor of PS4. Halo 5 and a bunch of desperate fire sales will put a dent in that number but black Ops and battlefront bundles and ads will help negate that. Best case scenario for MS is Xbone enters 2016 with a 100-200k lead, which it will promptly loose after the release of uncharted 4 and/or a pricecut, after which the Xbone will never lead again... In any region.

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@charizard1605 said:
@AgentA-Mi6 said:
@Ant_17 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@AtariKidX said:

PS4 have dominate....again.Poor WiiU.......it is a dead console.

So is the Vita

At least Sony put up a tombstone.

Nintendo are leaving the Wiiu on the street.

Sony tried harder with the Vita than Nintendo did with the WiiU

Huh? What? No, not at all :/

Nintendo continued to push out high quality first party games for the Wii U even when it was clear the system was dead. Sony tried for a grand total of one year (a year in which they missed no chance to sabotage themselves, I might add), and then called it quits.

Yep, that's true! Even when the Wii U is a total flop, they still gave Nintendo gamers some First Party games and of course a couple of good 3rd party ones like Bayonetta 2. Sony's first party didn't even want to make games for the Vita and only hired second rate teams to make them.

TBH, in the beginning of t he Vita's life, they had the potential to finally knock down Nintendo's Handheld crown for the very first time. They had an impressive presentation and they managed to fix a lot of the PSP's problems and one of them is switching from UMD's to cartridges. Secondly, Vita had much better battery life than the 3DS. Nintendo fumbled completely with the 3DS launch as they put too much focus on the 3D gimmicks and "Integrated Software in the Hardware." Vita actually had a good launch line up. Last, Sony was able to match price w/the Wi-Fi version costing $250 vs the Value of the 3DS which $250 added 3D didn't added any value of purchase. It got Nintendo scared, and had to immediately go back to the drawing board and reshuffle the strategy focusing on games (Mario 3D Land, Star Fox 64 Remake, OoT Remake) and then had to cut the price.

The biggest missteps of why the Vita didn't succeed isn't just because of kids and casuals were more interested in mobile gaming, but the additional hidden cost applied to the system (proprietary memory cards over the standard SD cards and PSN Plus membership, also 3G owners had to have a wireless carrier contract with additional costs). Also, no one knew that Sony was losing money for every Vita sold at $250/$300 (3G version) so they couldn't cut the Vita price further to match Nintendo's, and Sony didn't truly changed their handheld strategy from the PSP (Portable console games over handheld designed titles).

Sorry for the long post.....

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@Pray_to_me said:

The September Destiny bundle will put another 300k between the two consoles for a total of about 1.2 million in favor of PS4. Halo 5 and a bunch of desperate fire sales will put a dent in that number but black Ops and battlefront bundles and ads will help negate that. Best case scenario for MS is Xbone enters 2016 with a 100-200k lead, which it will promptly loose after the release of uncharted 4 and/or a pricecut, after which the Xbone will never lead again... In any region.

i really hope you are wrong just for the sake of me hating destiny with a passion

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@strobelitebunny said:

So that would mean <750k if I'm not mistaken between Xbox one and Playstation 4.

If the 17k is true that is.

Actually to be honest that's a pretty small gap. What happened? Was there a deal?

Haha there you are...

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#296 Zero_epyon
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@strobelitebunny I'll play along. The gap is 30K this month and the US gap is 800K+ not less than 750.

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#297 AM-Gamer
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@jsmoke03: why would they sweat it when the PS4 has over a 10 million console lead?

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#298 PS4hasNOgames
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Surprised X1 was so close to ps4, I predict august X1 will be #1 partly because of the madden bundle.

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#299 xhawk27
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Anyone want to bet on October and November?

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#300 blackace
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GamesCom wouldn't have any effect on July sales for XB1. Good sales though. Now bring those games.