Nintendo online expansion pack pricing announced

@nintendoboy16: sure - but that's their problem. It's their job to offer us products that are competitively priced. We aren't obligated to buy something that's a bad deal to us just because it's a good deal to them. Hence the grumbling in this thread you're ridiculing

Get the **** out of here Nintendo 😂

I saw this from someone who supported VC and still does until it dies and NEVER bought into NSO. This meme will never NOT be relevant!

@nintendoboy16: If VC succeeded, do you honestly believe Nintendo would have allowed gamers access to their previously purchased games?

@goldenelementxl: The reason people ignored it and continued bitching is because it doesn't matter one bit to me how much Sega was paid or others, what matters to me (and everyone else) is how nintendo is raping their customer base and yet a few fanboys (you, Nintendoboy, meso, etc) are all like, please Nintendo no lube this time!!!

No lube this time? 🤔 You mean, don't EVER use lube Nintendo. 😈

Likely not. But that's dead and NSO lives. Once NSO dies, don't be surprised if Nintendo never bothers with classics ever again.

So, whether VC succeeded or not, Nintendo would have screwed over gamers.

@Pedro: Nintendo is smart to limit access on previously purchased games. Just look what happens on PC majority of my old games don’t work anymore. Sure I have them, but that shit broke.

Look at Microsoft. Still don’t have access to all my old Xbox games? Wtf you doing Microsoft, you had one job. Where the heck is my 100% BC?

"Likely", who knows, but again, irrelevant because VC is dead! And that is how we're here now.

Hard pass for me, I own Sega Genesis Classics Collection and Rare Replay on Xbox One. I have Nintendo Online membership and to be honest, I hardly use it so cancelled it. For $20, I enjoyed playing SNES and NES games though wish the library for those games was better.

That excuse of the cost being due to licensing from Sega is bs. If Sega wanted that much money to justify this cost then Nintendo should have told Sega to go **** themselves. No one was expecting Genesis support, it would have never been missed. If they wanted to charge this much then they should have added support for a bunch more of other systems such as Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, GameCube, etc. right out of the gate.

Okay.... So you don't know the difference between old PC games and how emulators work. No worries, but the reason old PC games don't run on a modern OS would not affect how Nintendo delivers these games via emulation. We have proof because plenty of people have modded their Switch for homebrew and the games work just fine.

Nintendo should have just put the effort in to rebuild their VC front end for ARM so it can run on the Switch. They should have honored their customers past purchases and allowed them to download the games they already have a license for. Instead they pull this shit and you wonder why it's getting harder for people to take them seriously.

This is just Nintendo's typical disconnect from their fanbase.

Screwed over gamers? This is a business. And consumers, “vote with their wallets.” The market is dictating these moves, and what Nintendo does makes money. Lots of money. If consumers didn’t want these things, they wouldn’t buy them. Just because you value $50 the way you do, doesn’t mean a Nintendo fan with disposable income has an issue with paying $50 to play these games on Switch.

This is a topic for another thread, but look at the services and subscription revenue of the big 3. Game Pass is clearly the most “consumer friendly,” yet it brings in the least revenue. (Most likely due to install base. The PC and mobile adoption of Game Pass doesn’t seem to be moving the needle yet). And this is before the costs are figured in. Profit margins are in the red for Game Pass, while PS and Nintendo are making money on their less “consumer friendly“ services.

So ultimately, gamers need to respond to these “consumer friendly“ services, or they will be abandoned. See Nintendoboy‘s meme above. It rings true generation after generation. You all love to preach, “vote with your wallet.” Well the message board community seems to be absent at the polls… Spend money or watch the hobby continue to change in a way that “screws over gamers.”

Stating "this is business" does not negate being screwed over and nor does it justify it. I am not sure what was the point of the first paragraph. It is not like it is uncommon for people do things that are not in their best interest. Just look at the support for exclusives and the need for having multiple systems. In addition to the nonsense behind "consoles need identity" as a validation to the anti-consumer practices that is just the norm in gaming. Don't get me wrong, I get your point that was laid out in the sequential paragraphs which I hold no issue with. 😊

What? Since when? This is the entitlement so many point out when discussing gamers.

Don’t want it, don’t buy it. That’s the only way to make a change. But hey, gamers have like a .001% success rate after saying that, so I get the frustration. But Nintendo makes compelling hardware and software. THATS their job. The pricing just increases or decreases their profits. Consumers have shown that they’ll pay a premium for things they want. Being competitively priced has little to do with success.

@goldenelementxl: We’ll said. This person gets it.

The concept of “voting with your wallet” has an inherent flaw. When the goal is making the most money then you don’t necessarily need to cater to the most people.

@goldenelementxl: that's LITERALLY the job of a business. Wtf is your problem? What do you care if some of us find that a terrible value?

You keep talking about "don't like it, don't buy it" - I completely agree and that's the point of my post. Meanwhile you're on here yelling at people in the same breath for "not liking it and not buying it"

@goldenelementxl: So no lube for you and wrapped in sandpaper, got that Nintendo?

@vfighter: Hey, what’s fun is fun.

Apple makes products with competitive prices? Tesla? Rolex? Hell, forget the premium products. Sony, LG, Samsung? The biggest, most successful companies make compelling products and they push the boundaries of what consumers will pay. They can do this because they are things consumers want. And the prices they charge allow them to reinvest and continue to push the boundaries of what is possible with their products

We know the driving force behind the pricing is licensing. Don’t care about Sega and N64 games you already own? Great! You can ignore the expanded service. If your $4.17 a month is more valuable to you than what’s being offered here, then you do you. But many folks will pay that $4.17 a month, or $50 a year to entertain themselves.

But the job of a business is to competitively price their products? I couldn’t disagree more. I would argue it’s not in the top 3 things they need to do. They set out to prove to consumers that they need them. Not the other way around.

@Archangel3371: Capitalism 101

@nintendoboy16: Umm, ok? And?

Just reading some damage control/justifications to why the price is what it is, is melting my brain. Nintendo fans are really something.

Exactly. And even then, Nintendo is catering to more people than they’re not. The price isn’t the driving force. It’s the content. More people than not are gonna see the N64 and Genesis games and that’s gonna be their reason to purchase. Not the price tag. Nostalgia is a hell of a marketing tool. And the folks that grew up on those systems are of the age to be able to afford a few bucks a month.

@goldenelementxl: I grew up playing all those games, I’m as nostalgic as anyone going and have purchased numerous games based on nostalgia and will continue to in the future. I can also most certainly afford this price, I very much believe that most can also. It’s not about being able to afford this, it’s about the value for what you get here.

And taking N64 games in the car, bathroom, or outside, is more than worth it for most. Some of these games appeared on the DS and/or 3DS. But the Switch screen provides a worthy upgrade. I’m not sure if I’ll get it or not. But the price won’t be the reason I don’t.

@Archangel3371: That's all how the companies will listen to unless there's a better tactic.

@hardwenzen: There are those who understand it, but still won't buy it. I'm one of them. I personally HATE NSO.

30 dollars more a year for mario kart 64 star fox 64 and OOT bunch of crap genesis games and I already own mario 64 with the all stars collection

THIS IS CRAP nintendo i could buy those 3 64 games for 30 bux and not have to rent them every year.

I am pretty excited to see what kind of BS Nintendo will offer us with the launch of the Switch 2. Their overconfidence as of late is destroying EVEN Sony.

screw them.

like really hard.

back up game save bs they do to.

@goldenelementxl: Well you’ll get no disagreement from me about value to different people being subjective.

@nintendoboy16: Agreed which was kind of my point in the flaw in the concept of voting with your wallet.

I agree with your conclusion, but then that raises the question: how much smaller would the price increase have been if the Genesis platform wasn’t included. I don’t think anyone was really calling for it, considering the existence of that Genesis collection and sundry a la carte Sega Ages releases.

Of the initial batch of N64 titles, only Winback is 3rd party, meaning Koei Tecmo would get a taste. Even including Banjo in the “coming soon” titles wouldn’t force jacking up the price so much.

??? Well since you care so much about my opinion, I'm not getting this. But I've always criticized Nintendo's online because I find it to be the worst thing about them. But since you're so obsessed with me, you knew that already.

Eh, doubtful.

I doubt any of these games will be optimized for 16:9 screens, like any two-bit emulator would do.

I thank you very much for your very humble opinion.

:P

No thanks. I see no reason to pay an extra $30 a year to rent games from 1997 when I can play N64/Genesis/Game Boy and GBA games for free right now if I actually wanted to play them.

emulation ftw

You can buy the Animal Crossing expansion as a standalone purchase, no subscription needed.

Good to see N64 classics coming to their online. Its very ironic to see Sega in bed with Nintendo considering all the mud slinging in the generation 4 days. Nintendo has the Switch sales to justify the price hike. Seems their annual price is higher than PlayStation Plus annual rate.

No arguments here. They will pay for it.

I do not care about the licensing fee's Nintendo is paying for the Genesis games. Have an option to not get the Genesis games since they are available in collections. My problem isn't the games they are offering, it is that they charge for their awful service in the first place. I played prior to them starting to charge and it was garbage. I figured it would get better after the paywall went up. Tried the free trial and it was exactly the same. Swiftly cancelled. At least MS and Sony offer good services for the price and give games that aren't 5-7 generations old. I wish people wouldn't subscribe to this so Nintendo would have no choice but to restructure their online. Unfortunately, there are people who are actually defending this.

Shieeeeeeet, 75$ for the family plan... don't know about that.

hard pass here.